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Engineers find a simple yet clever way to boost chip speeds
Phys.Org ^ | 06-17-2015 | Provided by Stanford University

Posted on 06/18/2015 12:01:38 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Husker24; Red Badger

Red Badger explained above that it is the two conductors (copper and graphene) in parallel that reduce the resistance and hence provide the benefit of more speed. I still don’t get how you can use a conductive sheathing and not damage the silicone and yet be isolated from the silicone. I do know that the “magic property” of the material gortex is that it allows perspiration droplets to escape, but does not allow water-sized droplets to penetrate. So, you stay warm AND dry. Perhaps graphene works somewhat like that.


21 posted on 06/18/2015 1:53:35 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Sounds promising. If it really is a revolutionary technology then the environmentalists will need to start their demonization campaign right away.


“Graphene is a single layer of carbon atoms arranged in a strong yet thin lattice”

Have the researchers work on a way to get the carbon atoms out of CO2 and they can get all the money they want for research.

In practice, it doesn't matter how much energy it will take to convert that CO2 used as an input since the greenies never look at the big picture...:^)

22 posted on 06/18/2015 1:57:29 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: Red Badger
It saddens me that whenever I see news about cutting edge developments like this, it's always a foreigner doing the work. We used to be so awesome - as a people, and as a culture.

Now we just provide an environment for other people to be awesome, and that's just sad.

23 posted on 06/18/2015 2:19:29 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (B.L.O.A.T. : Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: Red Badger

I expect that you are on the right track Red Badger. The solid state physicists at FR are probably too busy designing to weigh in, but there are likely many issues at work, and probably being considered by semiconductor designers before this Graphene layer can become deployed. My guess, given that the performance number given is about 30%, that this is another design rules shrink. Shrinking design rules are constrained by interconnect limitations. The “wires” inside a processor with over 1 1/2 billion transistors, and probably double that number of simple gates, is enormous, probably over 40 billion. The delay through the wires connecting all those devices limits frequencies, since 64 bit registers must have 64 bits all loaded before those registers can be read. When data arrive irregularly it is called “skew”. I’m guessing that Graphene is more important for its thinness and to minimize contamination, since the silicon substrate is an insulator unless it is “contaminated”, accidentally, or intentionally, as in “doped”, the process used to create semiconductors.

Perhaps we have an expert who can correct me or illuminate the issue? Few understand what a wonder our semiconductors are. To add what little else I have encountered measuring electrical signals, the dielectric constant of the insulator has a significant effect upon the velocity of electrical signals through a conductor. We used to estimate electrical pulse velocity at 7 inches/nanoseconds or about 60% of the velocity of light in a vacuum. Today’s semiconductors behave like waveguides, only they are built of millions of waveguides, yes, radio frequencies. These waveguides behave just like those pipes inside radar transmitters and receivers, but carry much less power. If they didn’t, a 4 Gigahertz processor couldn’t work since there would be no way to pass bits between logical units, or even to differentiate ones from zeros.


24 posted on 06/18/2015 2:25:41 PM PDT by Spaulding
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If the graphite is an auxiliary conductor.. resistance should be lower in the wire.. so less heat and less power used also...so win,win
25 posted on 06/18/2015 3:50:09 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Red Badger

With the faster speed, wouldn’t this also make more heat? So with one enhancement, we may have created another problem.


26 posted on 06/18/2015 3:51:59 PM PDT by Herosmith ("Hindsight alone is not wisdom, And second-guessing is not a strategy." - GWB)
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To: MosesKnows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene


27 posted on 06/18/2015 8:58:47 PM PDT by mbj (My two cents)
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To: Red Badger

The title makes it sound a lot simpler than I think it would be.


28 posted on 06/18/2015 9:08:25 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Not really, considering the processes involved are not ‘new’ to the industry....................


29 posted on 06/19/2015 6:06:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Herosmith

Not necessarily so, since the graphene makes the connections less resistance, so less heat generated.........................


30 posted on 06/19/2015 6:08:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Spaulding; NVDave

We’ll ask one..................


31 posted on 06/19/2015 6:08:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: T-Bone Texan
Now we just provide an environment for other people to be awesome..........

That's what we've always done, since 1776!......................

32 posted on 06/19/2015 6:09:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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bkmk


33 posted on 06/19/2015 6:12:11 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Spaulding
I’m guessing that Graphene is more important for its thinness and to minimize contamination, since the silicon substrate is an insulator unless it is “contaminated”, accidentally, or intentionally, as in “doped”, the process used to create semiconductors.

The Stanford experiment showed that graphene could perform this isolating role while also serving as an auxiliary conductor of electrons. Its lattice structure allows electrons to leap from carbon atom to carbon atom straight down the wire, while effectively containing the copper atoms within the copper wire.

I'm guessing that the copper 'wires' are functioning really like just a skeletal substructure to hold the graphene's carbon atoms in place. The graphene is really the true conductor, while the copper fills in any 'holes' that may be present in the graphene. With copper atoms being larger than carbon atoms, they cannot migrate thru the holes into the silicon.......................

34 posted on 06/19/2015 6:18:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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