Posted on 06/25/2015 11:59:12 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
> Because the South didn’t have concentration camps where they executed Jews?
The South had Andersonville and the North had Elmira. They didn’t execute Jews, but a huge number of captured men never came home from them.
One of my great great uncles died in Elmira Military Prison 7 days before the end of the war. As it was, every male member of my family over the age of 12 was killed in the Civil war. My family were just poor white peckerwoods from Arkansas. (for those who’ve never heard the term, peckerwood is the Southern equivalent of the Northern term redneck).
He’s not “dissing” it. He’s predicting.
Screwy Louie of course has already suggested it.
We all knew this would happen - as it always does - “the US is oppressive from the get-go and any symbols are to be despised”.
Come on, it’s not new that liberals - who hate America - would suggest they will not celebrate America or its symbols, including the Flag.
What I don't get is why the Star and Crescent and Hammer and Sickle have not gone the way of the Swastika. They are all the symbols of mass murderers.
POW camps are not the same as concentration camps just because you don’t like the people.
Sorry.
"The race problems that wrack America to this day are due largely to the fact that the Confederacy Democrat Party was not thoroughly destroyed, its leaders and soldiers executed and their lands given to the landless free slaves."
“The Republican Party and conservatives will be better for finally and very publicly shedding the Confederate flag.”
The Republican party has no relevance for conservatives. It does not represent us and actively works agains’t us. It needs to die.
The Republic formerly known as the USA is dead and has been replaced with an Oligarchy.
Southerners don’t give a rat’s azz what a bunch of ignernt Yankees (I guess that’s you) thinks about the Confederate flag, Southern history or much of anything except how to disengage from you and build a fence along the Mason Dixon line. :-)
That means that the States define their own social values. By what rationale do we purge the symbols of one another for some form of compulsion driven uniformity?
The attack on Southern symbols is an attack on the heritage of the most consistently American Conservative group of voters. Nothing could be more counter-productive to the rights of any other segment of Americans; nothing more destructive of fundamental liberties.
Understand the hate promotion that is behind the current assault. See Promoting Hate In America. This is not some spontaneous eruption.
I also found out, attending a Confederate POW burial-ground ceremony for my gravesite group at Pt. Lookout in MD, that Cherokees honored the Confederate side. At this ceremony many organizations laid wreaths, and 2 of them were from Cherokee tribes (and yes, they were actually Indians, not white boys with 1/32 Indian ancestry).
The swastika is alive and well you idiot at the Chicago Reader...proudly displayed by Islamofacist.
That’s an interesting perspective.
We do in fact have to remember that there was only a “Germany” since “unification” under Bismarck in 1870. Seems lightyears to us, but that is only about 60 years removed from the NAZI rise. Not enough time had passed to “settle”.
Germany often is a microcosm of European problems.
I’ve visited Andersonville and the cemetery there. I’ve also read about POW camps both North and South and more Southern soldiers died in Northern camps then did Union troops in the South. There was a lot of pro/con about Andersonville as to how the camp was run under Wirz where a monument to him is in the town square.
Yes, the Leo Frank case is the most famous/well known one, but there were a few others.
When I was young, I was on a bus trip from NYC to Richmond. We stopped for a tour of the Museum of the Confederacy but half the occupants of the bus refused to get off because viewing it would be “honoring” the Confederacy. Those people, if they’re still around today, would probably want the flag burned. So, some will not be happy to know that it’s simply consigned to a museum. The only way forward would be to suppress it.
Of course, they were all too stupid to know that NYC was a hotbead of Copperheads.
Why did the north not treat its prisoners better? We hear so much about Wirz and the fact that the struggling Confederacy didn’t have enough food for its troops much less prisoners but what was the North’s problem?
Thank you for the reasoned discussion. I know we all have different perspectives on this and it really is great to discuss them without unnecessary insults and rudeness that others sometimes like to throw around to kill discussion. Again, thanks.
African Americans, As If. As if you were the only ones in history who went through atrocities. The woman who walked in and took free possession of my great-grandparents’ home the day they were taken to the death camp still lived there in the 1980s. My family did not get that house back.
Please look around and see that man’s inhumanity to man has always been and will always be. Choose good. Choose civilization. Try and bring light to the world. Don’t have your children focus on victimhood.
The swastika is not gone.
Who got this crap started?
Lefties and debate ... it’s like trying to talk 19th century English jurisprudence with an Irish setter:
Love this. But you do need an Irish Setter who knows how to yell ad hominem attacks.
Nice of you to use the same 'museum' talking point as Obama and Jeb Bush. Very original.
Glad to see finally on its way there.
Nah, the media and progressives only succeeded in creating a Streisand effect with the flag. It's definitely flapping in the breeze in more places in the South now than it was two weeks ago.
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