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Posted on 06/28/2015 7:02:15 AM PDT by HarleyLady27

Say somebody lived in a State that recognizes 'common law' marriages, and one of the partners of this couple (man and woman) was already married, and they lived together for say 15-17 years....would the man, having already being married to someone else, living with another woman, be committing polygamy????


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1 posted on 06/28/2015 7:02:15 AM PDT by HarleyLady27
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To: HarleyLady27

Not anymore. Haven’t you heard? Anything goes!


2 posted on 06/28/2015 7:07:26 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I believe technically that would be bigamy.


3 posted on 06/28/2015 7:09:22 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: HarleyLady27

Depends: is the ‘man’ a man from birth or a late-life changeover lesbian? And is the ‘woman’ a female farm animal? These questions will have to be asked now.


4 posted on 06/28/2015 7:15:11 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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...would the man, having already being married to someone else, living with another woman, be committing polygamy????

Not unless he married at least two more. Bigamy, now, got him on that one!

Disclaimer: Not a legal opinion.

5 posted on 06/28/2015 7:16:57 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: HarleyLady27
Not in a strict legal sense, as far as state-sanctioned marriage is concerned, since the state has not sanctioned the live-in or common law situation, although the state (or most of them) recognizes such unions for property rights, uncontested inheritance, etc.

From what I have studied in the past, many years ago, it would become a problem only if the person that was not divorced from a previous marriage, attempted to gain benefits (such as Social Security or a Survivors Pension) as a result of the common-law marriage, which may or may not be recognized by the state.

A good confusing legal conundrum, one that has been used by Professors that teach law in nearly every class in the US.

I am not a legal expert by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but I have studied such at length, simply for my own edification.

Google "Common Law Marriage" and you will find a plethora of information, most of it very conflicting, about the subject.

There have been a couple of Supreme Court decisions and many, many lower court rulings on it.

Basically though, the "crime" of polygamy has pretty much gone the way of laws against adultery.

There are many on the books, but few are actually prosecuted in this day and age.

6 posted on 06/28/2015 7:19:14 AM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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Don’t you have to declare your shacking up as a “common law” marriage? I think you only need to co-habit for 6 months (don’t know if a consummation of the relationship is needed) and make a declaration.

A divorce lawyer would have a better answer (because if only the cohabitation requirement of a few months is needed, I think you’d see more ex’s demanding a share their former partner’s stuff).


7 posted on 06/28/2015 7:21:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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Whoa!!! Are you talking about my aunt? LOL

My Aunt divorce her first husband to shack up with another man who is still legally married for almost 40 years. He has never divorced his wife and my aunt had 7 kids with this man.

I never viewed him as my uncle and never will. My aunt passed away and he is still alive.

I always wonder about that. Is it lawful? How can my aunt be consider living in a common law marriage if the man she is with is still married to his wife.


8 posted on 06/28/2015 7:23:43 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: OldSmaj

I thought that polygamy prosecution still occurs against mormons and that bigamy cases are still brought against men who’ve married several women (and the ladies don’t know about the situation) leading the subsequent wives to be defrauded by the belief that they are the sole (surviving) spouse or primary claim to the property should a divorce arise.

By the way, Barack Obama’s father was a polygamist/bigamist. His marriage to Stanley was a sham. Barry is a bastard child.


9 posted on 06/28/2015 7:24:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: OldSmaj

The SCOTUS has put us all through the looking glass. LOL. “Words mean what I say they mean.”. As Ravi Zacarias says,”You step in front of a bus you will soon discover that there is, indeed, one truth.”. When the libtards step in front of the bus I, for one, plan to be ON it, if not driving.


10 posted on 06/28/2015 7:25:53 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Consider this. The Klown’s daddy of record may have been just a chump rolled in for the service. Read his poem about his “pops” and realize he is talking about FM Davis.


11 posted on 06/28/2015 7:28:08 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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"I always wonder about that. Is it lawful?"

That depends on the size and color of the Doublewide and whether the hookups are on his own lot or rented.

12 posted on 06/28/2015 7:30:11 AM PDT by shibumi ("Cover it with gas and set it on fire.")
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To: OldSmaj; HarleyLady27

Either someone is common Law married, or they are not, just like any marriage.

If someone is legally married with CL, then it counts as a regular marriage and all the rest of marriage law and divorce, apply.

Just living together as a man and woman (shacking up) does not make you married.


13 posted on 06/28/2015 7:38:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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Common Law marriage is a legal marriage, shacking up is just two people living together.


14 posted on 06/28/2015 7:39:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: Patriot Babe

That was the exact questioned I was asked....and my answer was I don’t know the legal answer, but if one of the partners of these ‘two’ didn’t get divorced, then that should tell you that the other really didn’t care about you all that much....


15 posted on 06/28/2015 7:46:14 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
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http://marriage.laws.com/common-law-marriage-utah

I believe in Utah, share a Coke & a smoke and you’re hitched.


16 posted on 06/28/2015 7:54:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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No. Under present law a currently married person is ineligible to marry another by any process not preceded by divorce. Living with someone ineligible for marriage, such as a minor will not result in a common law union irrespective of how long the cohabitation lasts. In the example given, once the minor achieves majority, the clock might start ticking.

Speaking as a Justice of the Peace here.


17 posted on 06/28/2015 8:01:33 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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Thank you, I just passed that along to my friend...


18 posted on 06/28/2015 8:07:03 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (Send 'slob boy of the oval office' back to Kenya ASAP, and save America...)
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Nothing matters as long as they/its LOVE each other....


19 posted on 06/28/2015 8:29:48 AM PDT by matginzac
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In Texas, common law marriage is treated in all respects the same as a ceremonial marriage. This dates way back to the 1800s when you couldn’t always wait for a traveling preacher to come to town (particularly if you wanted to avoid bastard children). If you want to end a common law marriage, then you have to get a regular divorce. If you don’t, then you can be guilty of bigamy if you move on to common law spouse #2 before legally divorcing common law spouse #1. (There is now a statute of limitations on proving a common law marriage that is commonly referred to as a “common law divorce,” but it is complicated).

To have a common law marriage in Texas, there are only three requirements: (1) you intend to be married, (2) you cohabitate, and (3) you hold yourselves out as married to other people. The “intend to be married” requirement is the one that is nearly always in dispute when one party claims they were married and the other does not. Intent can be inferred from meeting the other two requirements. So you can become legally married by checking into a motel for the night as Mr. and Mrs. Smith.


20 posted on 06/28/2015 8:46:54 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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