Philadelphia Freedom - Elton John [Sodomite Coming Out Song]

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[Jan_Sobieski]

I am an American of Ukrainian/Russian decent and my son speaks Russian. We have been to many slavic countries. Nikita is virtually exclusively male. The song is about a Russian male Elton John wants to have sex with. Get it through your skull. Elton John is a unabashed recruiting Sodomite that desires to sleep with children...

[x]

I distinctly remember John coming out, in 1976.

"Coming out" as a bisexual. Heck, David Bowie was making noises about being bisexual back then, too, whether he really was or not. Elton was married to a woman in the 80s and didn't publicly identify as gay until later.

"Someone Saved My Life Tonight" would have been a better pick for EJ's coming out song, but it dates from the same period, when he wasn't yet announcing himself as homosexual.

[rikkir]

OK, So any male that uses the word boy, even as a figure of speech, is queer. Buddy Holly, and Spanky from the Little Rascals will be very disappointed to know that.

Again, since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suite, Bernie Taupin, and Reginald Dwight met when they were in their late teens, and early 20's. A few weeks after Bernie showed Reg (Elton) a poem he had written in HIGH SCHOOL, before they met. Elton said he was amazed that a kid that young could have written something so beautiful, he took the poem, and put it to music.

Why would a heterosexual in 1967-68 write a song about homosexuals? See info about Bernie below:

Taupin has been married four times and divorced three: Maxine Feibelman (1971–76);[15] Toni Lynn Russo (1979–91), sister of actress Rene Russo; Stephanie Haymes (1993–98), daughter of entertainers Dick Haymes and Fran Jeffries; Heather Lynn Hodgins Kidd (March 2004–present), with whom he has two daughters, Charley Indiana and Georgey Devon.

Yeah in high school he was writing queer based songs for a guy he had not met yet, and who he wouldn't know was homosexual for many years after.

Once again, this is fact, stated by both parties, not a rumor, or opinion.

[skeeter]

Yeah, I’m glad that with me it didn’t sink in during his Captain Fantastic stage. I played the heck out of that record.

[rikkir]

"Get it through your skull. Elton John is a unabashed recruiting Sodomite"

Have I in any post indicated that I didn't believe Elton is a homosexual???? Huh??? Not once.

Elton DOES NOT WRITE LYRICS. He and Bernie are NEVER in the same place when a song is composed. What part of NEVER do you not get? What part of Bernie is NOT homosexual do you not get?

Type the word Nikita into Bing, or Google. Every picture is of a woman.

This a picture from the video of Nikita from 1985.

Yeah, again this really looks like a dude.

If you were trying to recruit queers, I guess the way to do it is put beautiful women in your music videos.

[dfwgator]

Type the word Nikita into Bing, or Google. Every picture is of a woman.

Interestingly, though, the backing vocals on "Nikita" were provided by another poofter, George Michael.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Here is a more appropriate picture of Elton John...

[FreedomPoster]

LOL!

“There’s a bathroom on the right” has to play into this somehow. Perhaps a wide stance was involved?

;-P

[rikkir]

Since you are another poster who doesn’t bother to read what is posted to them and just responds to posts with the same repeated mantra, it is obvious that you and I don’t live on the same planet.

My Planet is the planets of facts, and not once have I said that Elton was NOT homosexual.
You are arguing in circles because you can’t refute facts.

Fact 1.In the song, Elton John describes his crush on a woman called (Nikita Boylan) border guard whom he cannot meet because he is not allowed into the country. (Direct Quote from Elton’s label.)

Fact 2.Bernie wrote the lyrics

Fact 3. George Michael was a backgound vocalist on the song.
So What?

If you knew how many women I wooed with George Michael music you would blush.
I still play George Michael music when I want to get lucky with my wife, most definitely a female.

Since you hate all things Elton John, I guess you hate Rush Limbaugh as well. I mean he PAYED Elton to “recruit” all the people at his last wedding to become queer.

Whatever, you enjoy your planet where behind anything anyone enjoys you find some secret agenda.

I choose to not be paranoid. OOps Black Sabbath sang that song, so next you’ll be telling me I worship the devil.

Enjoy your life, try not to be scared all the time, nobody is out to get you.

[MarchonDC09122009]

Caption that photo:
Sir John - Devil incarnate

[SaveFerris]

Correct. For sure the line mentioned was totally wrong.

[MD Expat in PA]

If you read many of Elton’s lyrics, they clearly are homosexual love songs...Nikita, Your Song, and others...

I think you are reading way too much into the lyrics, even misquoting them in the case of Philadelphia Freedom and interpreting them based on Elton being a homosexual. “Knee high to a man” is not a phrase the Elton John or Bernie Taupin invented, I’d heard it said long before the song Philadelphia Freedom was recorded, and it is only about a homosexual sex act in your dirty mind.

Many songs are written from a female or a male POV or even some from a “gay” POV and some are obvious, although not the songs you mention, but many more song lyrics are rather ambiguous, meaning they could easily be performed or interpreted by being from a man’s or a woman’s POV, straight or homosexual. What you “hear” in the lyrics is what you want to “hear” in them or what the imagery the lyrics invokes for you and you alone, or a memory of a certain person or a place in time. And that is the great thing about most music; at least the great songs and I consider “Your Song” a great pop song of that era.

When I hear the Elton John song “Your Song” I don’t hear a “gay” anthem and even back then, long before Elton officially “came out” there were the rumors about him being “light in the loafers”, it wasn’t exactly a “secret” just like most people were not shocked about Freddy Mercury although Rob Halford of Judas Priest was a bit more of a shock to me.

But I do think back to the mid ‘70’s when Your Song was popular and as a 14 year girl, I had my first big crush on a 16 year old boy, Adam who lived up the street from me and who was our paperboy. I used to get up very early every Saturday morning, put on what make up I was allowed to wear, do my hair and dress up in my best outfit, just so I could be sure to be the one to open the door and give Adam our weekly paper bill money. When “Your Song” came on the AM radio, I imagined myself singing this song to Adam and him instantly falling in love with me forever and asking me to marry him and us living happily ever after.

But my love was in vein because Adam never seemed to notice me then or ever. He broke my heart and probably never even knew it. Oh, well, his loss : ),

“Your Song” is not even necessarily a romantic or a sexual song; it can be interpreted to be about for love of family and friends as some have done and the lyrics fit that interpretation too.

She dedicated this cover of Your Song to her family and friends, nothing sexual about it.

Christina Grimmie (Your Song by Elton John)

She dedicated this cover of the song to her little brother.

Rion Paige Sings "Your Song" - THE X FACTOR USA 2013

The lyrics to Your Song and Nikita were written by Bernie Taupin, a straight man currently married to his 4th wife, Heather Lynn Hodgins Kidd with whom he has two daughters, Charley Indiana and Georgey Devon. I guess he likes giving girls “boys” names but then again one of my best friends growing up was a girl named Michael, her nick name was Mickey and FWIW, there was nothing “butch” about her.

Nikita is a male name in Russian but it is also often used as a girl’s name in some countries, especially in France. There was a movie called, La Femme Nikita. Nikita is a popular name for girls in India FWIW.

Whether Taupin wrote the song Nikita about a male or female Russian soldier or whether when Elton sung it, what ran through his mind as to the imagery of the song, what it meant to him, the “official” video for the song is about a guy longing for a girl, a female Russian soldier across the Iron Curtain. I assume that the name Nikita sounded more Russian and more mysterious and was easier to rhyme than Ludmila or Svetlana. LOL!

Elton John - Nikita (Album Version) HD 16:9

One of my favorite songs by Elton John (and yes, I am a fan of his music especially his older stuff) is “Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters”. I like this cover by Heart which being sung by a woman, gives it a slightly different perspective.

Heart - Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters (live in Seattle, 2002)

I guess we could next have a thread dissecting the overtly “gay” lyrics of the homosexual song writer, Cole Porter?

Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love) by Ella Fitzgerald

Cole Porter´s Day and Night by Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers (from the movie The GAY Divorcee)

[dfwgator]

Rob Halford of Judas Priest was a bit more of a shock to me.

If you looked at the lyrics to 1977's "Raw Deal" it would not have been a shock.

[MD Expat in PA]

Well, that and his penchant for the leather outfits....

[rikkir]

One of my favorite songs by Elton John (and yes, I am a fan of his music especially his older stuff) is “Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters”. I like this cover by Heart which being sung by a woman, gives it a slightly different perspective.

Heart - Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters (live in Seattle, 2002)

Thank you for this gift.

I had never heard this version of what is also one of my favorite (there are so many, Indian Sunset, Ballad of Danny Bailey, Funeral for a friend/Love Lies Bleeding, Madman Across the Water, etc.)EJ songs.

My day has been brightened to hear Ann’s beautiful voice take it for a spin.

Speaking of Ann Wilson, did you know she is the only performer who has gotten the “thumbs up” from Robert Plant, and Jimmy Page for a covered version of “Stairway to Heaven”?

I still can’t figure out who I had a bigger crush on, Ann, or Pat Benetar. Coin toss?

[rikkir]

I owe you an apology.

I was listening to the video in the background as I was replying to you.

Imagine my surprise to look over and see Nancy singing.
That’s rare except for back up.

Even nicer surprise for the day.

Thank you again.

[MD Expat in PA]

I owe you an apology.

No apology needed.

Ann Wilson is the voice that most people associate with Heart as she was the lead singer on most of Heart’s best known songs, and what a great voice she had. But Nancy Wilson is very talented in her own right – a very talented acoustic guitarist and has a nice voice too.

Heart crazy on you

During the 1980’s, the era of the big hair, the huge shoulder pads, smoke machines and bad MTV imagery videos and when Ann’s weight gain made her not so marketable as a video vixen, Nancy sung the lead on “These Dreams” which, BTW Bernie Taupin wrote the music and lyrics for that song. As an interesting side note, the song was first offered to Stevie Nicks, who expressed no interest in recording it. But it’s not a bad song though per se.

The original video for These Dreams was horrible IMO. But this stripped down version is much better.

Heart - These Dreams Live (High Definition)

Speaking of Ann Wilson, did you know she is the only performer who has gotten the “thumbs up” from Robert Plant, and Jimmy Page for a covered version of “Stairway to Heaven”?

Ann & Nancy Wilson (Heart) - Stairway To Heaven - Kennedy Center Honors Led Zeppelin

[rikkir]

“During the 1980’s, the era of the big hair, the huge shoulder pads, smoke machines and bad MTV imagery videos and when Ann’s weight gain made her not so marketable as a video vixen, Nancy sung the lead on “These Dreams” which, BTW Bernie Taupin wrote the music and lyrics for that song. As an interesting side note, the song was first offered to Stevie Nicks, who expressed no interest in recording it. But it’s not a bad song though per se.”

I just watched a documentary about Heart about a month ago, and Ann’s problem wasn’t so much weight then as it was (her words) “They wanted me to wear a f-ing spacesuit”. She was a “hippie” from the Puget Sound, and the record company wanted to maximize their sex appeal. As is typical for record companies, they want to copy, not be original, and thought Ann, and Nancy should try and be Pat Benetar. Heck even Pat started dressing that way as a joke, and a costume party.
She also said the record company kept rejecting her and Nancy’s songs, asking them to sing other writers music. At first Ann rejected the idea out of hand, but later changed her mind after Nancy told her to rework the songs on her terms. Nancy said the first time she heard Ann do her version of “Alone” she got chill bumps, and knew they had solved the problem.