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Question. Does US government have accounts at NY Federal reserve?
7/29/15 | Grumpygresh

Posted on 07/29/2015 7:24:58 PM PDT by grumpygresh

I'm working on a settlement with a Federal government agency (not IRS). The settlement agreement calls for payment to be wired to an account at the NY Fed. We all know that the Fed is a privately held central bank and not owned by U.S. Does the U.S. Gov have accounts there and why? It seems that money should be sent to US treasury. BTW, they insisted on a wire and not a check. Anyone with legal/financial knowledge would be helpful.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
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1 posted on 07/29/2015 7:24:58 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh

GET A GOOD LAWYER NOW!


2 posted on 07/29/2015 7:26:50 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: grumpygresh; Toddsterpatriot

The knowledge of some FReepers (not me) about the Federal Reserve makes Ben Bernanke look like a piker. Hopefully you will get a helpful reply if this is a legitimate question posed in good faith.


3 posted on 07/29/2015 7:28:01 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Jim from C-Town

Yes, by all means get a good lawyer before doing anything.


4 posted on 07/29/2015 7:30:41 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: aposiopetic

Thanks it is. I do have atty and this question was also posed to a U.S. Fed district judge (confidentially) via my atty. They did not have answer.


5 posted on 07/29/2015 7:33:59 PM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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To: grumpygresh

I believe the U.S. government has accounts at every bank that is a member of the Federal Reserve.

Most of these accounts are used to collect payroll taxes from businesses. I don’t know if they are special purpose accounts used only for that purpose or not. I would expect that the Treasury Dept does have accounts at all of the Federal Reserve banks.

Ownership of the Federal Reserve banks is unlike any other corporation n the nation. The government shares normal ownership functions with member banks.

But you should be able to look up the NY Fed’s phone number and call the bank and confirm the account that you are supposed to send money to, is indeed an account owned by the U.S. government.


6 posted on 07/29/2015 7:40:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: grumpygresh

I would have your lawyer renegotiate with the agency to accept a check so you have a paper trail and he should also require a signed letter of final settlement upon the check clearing.


7 posted on 07/29/2015 7:51:37 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The cunning Venezuelan gov't has eliminated the toilet paper shortage by creating a food shortage.)
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To: grumpygresh

Bkmrk.


8 posted on 07/29/2015 7:52:12 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: DannyTN

Thanks, will do.


9 posted on 07/29/2015 7:52:36 PM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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To: grumpygresh

Every wire from or to any bank first goes through the federal reserve. Lovely, isn’t it? So private, too.


10 posted on 07/29/2015 8:11:19 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: grumpygresh

Next step. Make sure your lawyer isn’t Nigerian.


11 posted on 07/29/2015 8:20:39 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: grumpygresh

I’ve seen wires into and out of a federal agency with the Federal Home Loan Bank of New York as the institution.(I’ve also seen commercial banks used.) Can’t say I’ve ever seen FRB NY on one, but there are a lot of agencies I haven’t done business with.


12 posted on 07/29/2015 9:03:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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Yes, the federal government has accounts at the NY Fed and at the other regional Fed bank branches. Contrary to claims that the Fed is a "private bank," it is a US government agency. Although some of the assessments on banks for joining as members are credited as shareholder contributions of capital, this is only for accounting purposes and no shares are issued, shares cannot be traded, and they confer no rights on banks as shareholders.

The shareholder rubric was contrived when the Fed was created by Congress so that instead of relying solely on appropriations, some of the cost of creating the Fed as a central bank would be put on the country's commercial banks by way of assessments for membership. To ease the burden on those banks' capital structure, the assessments were described as for the purchase of shares that could be carried on the banks' books as assets.

13 posted on 07/29/2015 9:05:04 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Here’s some wire instructions that appear to be from the National Institutes of Health (If I have NIH right). Looks like the page resolves to a .gov address.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/psd/cas/wire_instructions_federal_reserve_nyc.pdf

So it looks like it can happen.

On the other hand, it looks like FCC payments go direct to the treasury:

https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/wire-transfer


14 posted on 07/29/2015 9:10:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: grumpygresh

Smells like a scam. The IRS would not require you to wire money to them ever, especially via a money transfer service like Western Union or Moneygram.


15 posted on 07/29/2015 9:25:40 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

Send a paper check or cashiers check to them, or arrange for the wire through an interbank transfer. DO NOT SEND THEM MONEY VIA MONEYGRAM OR WESTERN UNION. If they are demanding it be sent this way, it is likely a scammer.


16 posted on 07/29/2015 9:27:46 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: grumpygresh
The federal reserve is a foreign owned (IMF) banking cartel. Always has been.

https://archive.org/details/TheSecretsOfTheFederalReserve

17 posted on 07/30/2015 4:58:02 AM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: grumpygresh
Good morning.

Does the U.S. Gov have accounts there (i.e. Fed Reserve)and why?

Yes, mostly depository, but some are disbursements.

they insisted on a wire and not a check.

That is not unusual with large dollar transactions.

5.56mm

18 posted on 07/30/2015 5:09:07 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: aposiopetic
What is the Federal Reserve?

The Fed is the gatekeeper of the U.S. economy and is part of the federal government.

Based in Washington, D.C., the Fed is the bank of the U.S. government and regulates the nation's financial institutions. It's comprised of a network of 12 Federal Reserve Banks and a number of branches. This is all overseen by the Fed's Board of Governors, which we'll detail a little later.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43752521

19 posted on 07/30/2015 10:35:00 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Rockingham
Although some of the assessments on banks for joining as members are credited as shareholder contributions of capital, this is only for accounting purposes and no shares are issued, shares cannot be traded, and they confer no rights on banks as shareholders.

Right. The "stock" is more like a perpetual debt issue.

20 posted on 07/30/2015 10:36:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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