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Frustration dealing with Planning Commission in Campbell, CA

Posted on 08/05/2015 9:05:04 PM PDT by TMD

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To: demshateGod

AICP = Another idiot with colored pencils


21 posted on 08/05/2015 10:39:12 PM PDT by enraged
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To: bluejean

We bought this house in ‘87 with the intent of living here through retirement. It’s a single story, quiet, great neighborhood and close enough to anything we need. With the kids done with college we need to replace the roof so we’re also trying to upgrade/improve the layout to see us through our retirement years and ensure the kids aren’t stuck with a house they won’t be able to sell for a decent price because ‘deferred maintenance’ is required. That’s what happened with my in-laws house, too many things required work it wasn’t worth our while so we sold it and invested in our home so the kids wouldn’t be in the same situation - especially since they’ll never be able to buy a home in this area.

Every time I go to the planning dept I just want to say screw it...we’re outta here.


22 posted on 08/05/2015 10:46:05 PM PDT by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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To: TMD

Ten years ago I hired an Architect to draw plans for a kitchen remodel and to add 174 sq ft to our house. The Los Alamitos, Ca planning department signed off, the building department signed off and told me to come over to pickup my permit. When I tried to do so I was informed that the planning director had changed her mind and unsigned the department’s approval. I asked why, she told me and her answer made no sense so I asked to see this in the city code. Couldn’t show me, but it was my tough luck. The lawyers I shared this with wanted to fight (two pro bono!) while the contractors and Architects said “don’t fight city hall”. I let it go until recently. With the same plans in hand, new engineering (yes you read that right), new energy calcs (that too), and about $5000 for that and the plan check, permit and all the other fees, I can finally put a shovel into my dirt. After this is done we’re outta here!
I also grew up in California as did our three children and all four of my grandparents. Two of my boys are planning out of state moves. When we leave we will be taking a very successful second generation business with us. The liberals, socialists, commies, loafers, illegals, sickos and the rest of the rude pukes have made life here too expensive and time consuming to be worth it.
We will be shopping for a new state to put roots down in. The ones that express a desire to secede from the union will be on top of the list.


23 posted on 08/05/2015 10:47:23 PM PDT by i get it
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To: Michael.SF.

Yep, we’ve looked at the website for info about “Special Study Zones” and couldn’t find any information.

Being designated an “historical district” is the kiss of death if you ever want to make improvements.

The ironic thing is that all the paperwork seems to be directed at a developer planning a development rather than a puny little room add-on in an unused side yard. These people are like the hall monitors from junior high...just following the ‘rules’ and there’s no way on God’s green earth they will ever admit they are wrong or made a mistake....


24 posted on 08/05/2015 10:52:06 PM PDT by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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To: i get it

New Mexico has it’s faults, but in may ways is still a free state.


25 posted on 08/05/2015 10:59:10 PM PDT by Lee Enfield (I identify as rich, cut me a check.)
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To: TMD

Your ancestors would have started shooting people by now. Just saying.

L


26 posted on 08/05/2015 11:02:08 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: i get it

Oy, I feel your pain!! They don’t mind spending other people’s money and wasting their time. Sounds like a pretty expensive addition- $$$/sq ft.

When it came time for our final kitchen inspection, the inspector said we needed railings on our steps to get the kitchen signed off. After a couple of months of trying to figure out how to manage that without ruining the look o the brick pilasters on the side of the steps, we finally had custom wrought iron railings installed. When we called again to have the final, they said “Oh, it’s already been signed off” - months earlier....frikkin morons.

Good luck finding a new state, especially one that hasn’t been poisoned by Californians. Let me know where you end up. ; )


27 posted on 08/05/2015 11:02:49 PM PDT by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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To: TMD

Must be more Conservatives in this dump city than I thought. I feel you. This city is ridiculous. We can’t even use plastic bags at the store.


28 posted on 08/05/2015 11:09:16 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!"- Samuel Adams)
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To: TMD

“Good luck finding a new state, especially one that hasn’t been poisoned by Californians. Let me know where you end up. ; )”

Can’t imagine many of my fellow Californians being attracted to somewhere like North Dakota. Unless they are serial killers on the lamb, of course.


29 posted on 08/05/2015 11:11:11 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!"- Samuel Adams)
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To: TMD; Michael.SF.
Being designated an “historical district” is the kiss of death...

I was a Building Contractor in Wilmington, NC. and had frequent dealings with the "Hysterical Society" there. They were a bunch of do-nothings that wanted to exert their power in any way possible.

While building a NEW house in their midst )after a year of negotiations in style, design, and whatever else they decided), I encountered a couple of queer men that wanted to upgrade their home by installing wood-grained vinyl siding. Of course they were refused that opportunity.

Their response was to paint the house. They used 14 different colors to decorate the house in the proper Hysterical style as it had formerly been in the 1800"s as a Bordello!

Ha! They were at first refused for that design, but after a presentation by their Lawyer, those old biddies had to relent. Who had that last laugh!

It actually looked pretty good, but of course they did it tastefully. After all, we all know queers have lots of "style"!!! YMMV!

30 posted on 08/05/2015 11:27:14 PM PDT by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: TMD

Make your home a sanctuary home, adding square feet will be subsidized.


31 posted on 08/06/2015 1:17:01 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Joe Miner

Just move out of CA if you can. Alternately, find another home that fits your new needs, sell and move. Cheaper than adding on.


32 posted on 08/06/2015 4:41:25 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: TMD

This is probably not what you want to hear but ..

quit while you still have any self-respect.

There’s a limit and I hope you’ll reach it very soon. Meanwhile consider yourself part of the problem.


33 posted on 08/06/2015 6:30:24 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Graybeard58

Nice one-liner, very nice. Is moving wrong in this case? If so, why?

Here’s another one-liner: The trend is your friend. In CA, what is the trend? More restrictions and regs, or less? Saner or less so?


34 posted on 08/06/2015 6:34:31 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: TMD
How many city council meetings have you attended in the last 20 years when they were OK’ing all that stuff?
35 posted on 08/06/2015 6:36:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: TMD
Every time I go to the planning dept I just want to say screw it...we’re outta here.

Please make a video when you finally do. It'll get more hits than Harper Valley PTA.

36 posted on 08/06/2015 6:39:34 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: TMD

That’s fk’d up and almost none of it applies to you or anywhere near Campbell.

What they did is a copy/paste job from a couple agencies, like San Francisco, and made code requirements that have nothing to do with where you actually live.

IOW: They are too friggin lazy to do any real work, they want to look intelligent but, the truth is they plagiarized the work of another city and county, with no regard for its efficacy and application of, for and to the community.

What does “Ocean, Bay or Stream” have to do with Campbell?

Most if the items on there have nothing to do with Campbell and many are commercial reauirements.

It wouldn’t surprise me if you were handed the wrong permit requirements.

I am at my brother’s, who does construction, and I’ll show this to him.

He’ll probably say you were handed the wrong requirements.


37 posted on 08/06/2015 6:47:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: TMD

My mom and dad built my childhood home from the ground up. Outside of concrete and masonry work, they did it all...framing, wiring, drywall, roofing, painting, siding, everything.

No permits, no impact studies, no government intervention whatsoever. He just bought the materials and built it.

Of course, that was rural WV in the 1970’s.

Somehow, the house is still standing and hasn’t burnt to the ground, collapsed, or exploded.


38 posted on 08/06/2015 7:04:01 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: TMD

My brother says “Yep” and your architect is suppose to do that, to get you through the permit process.

He had way more to say, which is funny as hell, because he is a Democrat but, talks exactly like a Republican.

He’ll get it one day....


39 posted on 08/06/2015 7:21:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Buttons12

Yep, family and jobs are currently the ties that bind us here. As those change in the next few years, we will likely hit the tipping point.


40 posted on 08/06/2015 1:09:31 PM PDT by TMD (Behind enemy lines.....)
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