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Why I'm for Trump
9/09/2015 | Nikos1121

Posted on 09/09/2015 3:35:20 AM PDT by nikos1121

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To: ConservingFreedom

So, you have no actual experience with this, just what you read on policy sites?

Because, again, my personal experience across three separate companies employing some H1Bs as part of the workforce is completely different than the crap posted on that policy site.


181 posted on 09/09/2015 3:31:00 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
my personal experience across three separate companies employing some H1Bs as part of the workforce is completely different than the crap posted on that policy site.

I repeat: Your experiences are not randomly selected so are not validly generalizable to all H-1B hires.

182 posted on 09/09/2015 4:11:21 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You’re still trying to drag me in the mud with you. You know what they say about arguing with idiots? Oh wait you provably don’t.


183 posted on 09/09/2015 4:15:12 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ConservingFreedom

And I’m sure your policy site has a completely impartial view.

(Bear in mind that I am all for more Americans getting great jobs. I’m also all for policies that help Americans become the best qualified candidates in a meritocracy. [Bye-bye Department of Education] But I won’t sit idly by and listen to union-esque entitlement style propaganda that bears little resemblance to how things actually work in the real world.)


184 posted on 09/09/2015 4:23:03 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
how things actually work in the real world

Al you can address authoritatively is how things actually work in YOUR COMPARATIVELY SMALL CORNER OF the real world.

185 posted on 09/10/2015 7:20:06 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

And you can’t address anything, apparently, because you are not exposed to even a small corner of the real world, right? Just what you read?


186 posted on 09/10/2015 8:06:25 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
And you can’t address anything, apparently, because you are not exposed to even a small corner of the real world, right? Just what you read?

Opposite - reading exposes me to everything the authors have seen. One who insists that direct experience is the only way to know condemns oneself to knowing vanishingly little.

187 posted on 09/10/2015 9:30:03 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Sigh. You’re like one of those dudes who reads up on warfare, then tells a soldier who has actually seen combat that they don’t know squat about war because they’ve only been on a couple select battlefields.

Also, I *do* read plenty of H1B related information and articles. So I have the benefit of “reading experience” AND my real life experience.

Someone who doesn’t believe that makes me more qualified to comment on the subject is being willfully stubborn and close-minded.

But - hey - you know best. After all, you’ve READ UP on it. I’ve *only* read up on it AND lived it.


188 posted on 09/10/2015 9:56:42 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
you can’t address anything, apparently, because you are not exposed to even a small corner of the real world, right? Just what you read? [...] I *do* read plenty of H1B related information and articles. So I have the benefit of “reading experience”

Get back to me when your split personalities can stick to the same story.

189 posted on 09/10/2015 10:05:06 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Huh? When do I ever say I didn’t do any reading on the topic. Hell, I’ve posted on plenty of H1B threads here in the past few years after reading the articles. Plus the stuff I see on LinkedIn and get in the professional magazines.

I said, “Just what YOU read?” As in, “You are saying that I can only speak to the small subset of real experiences I have, but, under the same logic, YOU can’t speak to anything because you have no real experiences, just what YOU read.”

Work on your reading comprehension. It concerns me that you are arguing from the standpoint of, “BUT I READ A LOT,” and yet you fail this simple reading comprehension exercise. That doesn’t bode well for you. You may read a lot, but apparently understand very little.


190 posted on 09/10/2015 10:30:06 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
When do I ever say I didn’t do any reading on the topic.

I never said nor implied that you said that. Work on your reading comprehension.

What have you read that factually rebuts http://cis.org/miano/primer-reporters-looking-h-1b-program?

You are saying that I can only speak to the small subset of real experiences I have, but, under the same logic, YOU can’t speak to anything because you have no real experiences, just what YOU read.

That becomes logic only with the addition of the premise that one can speak to only that with which one has had real experience - a premise I never stated nor implied and is not true.

191 posted on 09/10/2015 10:52:15 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Whaaaaaa???

You say something about “split personalities” implying that I’m changing my story, then you say something to the affect of “I’m not implying you’re changing your stories.”

Then you fail to connect the dots after saying I can ONLY speak to the subset of experiences I’ve had and nothing else, but allow yourself to speak to everything you’ve READ.

Dude. You’ve lost me and my interest at this point. This debate is no longer at a rational level, so it’s time for me to walk away.


192 posted on 09/10/2015 2:00:39 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: bolobaby
you say something to the affect of “I’m not implying you’re changing your stories.”

I said nothing to that effect. Your reading comprehension problems continue and deepen.

saying I can ONLY speak to the subset of experiences I’ve had and nothing else

I didn't say nor imply that either.

it’s time for me to walk away.

To a remedial reading class, I hope.

193 posted on 09/10/2015 2:24:46 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Maybe therapy for you.


194 posted on 09/10/2015 2:39:13 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Eric Pode of Croydon

Totally false, begin by explaining how the sugar tariff benefits Americans and not just the 3-5 families that control the sugar market in America.


195 posted on 09/11/2015 3:40:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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