Posted on 12/13/2015 11:44:09 AM PST by conservativejoy
Agreed. Don’t do any damage that can’t be undone.
No, no! Pop that popcorn! It is a staple during any election. :)
No, no we need to have these fights. This is healthy and it'll make each candidate that much stronger.
http://americasrenewablefuture.com/rfs2016/
...Question: The federal Renewable Fuel Standard displaces Middle East oil with homegrown, domestic fuels. As President, will you support our national security with the Renewable Fuel Standard?
Mr. Trump: “Yes, and a very strong yes. There is no reason not to. We need it. We need every form we can get. Ethanol is terrific, especially with the new process. And I am totally in favor of ethanol 100-percent and I will support it.”...
Any serious person sees that Trump has no idea what he's talking about and cares less. His cult doesn't know what ethanol is. They hate liberty as much as Hillary does. It's a waste of time analyzing the stuff he spews out because it means nothing to him. In fact, this whole election is a waste of energy. We're doomed.
Congress gave up on the mandate. All that’s left is the subsidy.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/dirty-rotten-ethanol-scoundrels-1433716070
You are right. Trump is pragmatic on energy sources like COAL!! he loves coal. Coal loves him!! Ethanol is not my favorite — I just don’t want to buy it and I should have that option. I WANT THE OPTION!! If it was cheaper than oil ,I would buy it. I don’t want it mixed in my gasoline by a fascist government but I don’t hate it. Its the fascist government I hate. GO TRUMP!! No mandated ethanol— He is not saying mandated ethanol!! We aren’t listening carefully. I assure you he loves oil and oil loves him!!
I'm sold. Cruz now has my vote.
You keep posting long articles to me. I skimmed this one. I saw no Trump quote criticizing Cruz for not supporting “subsidies.”
Does the Fed Renewable Fuel Standard codify ethanol mandates and subsidies?
Yes, constitutionally low-information Trump is wrong about ethanol subsidies and Harvard Law School-indoctrinated Cruz is right. But it is too bad that Cruz evidently cannot substantiate his stance against ethanol with the following excerpts from Supreme Court case decisions by previous generations of pro-state sovereignty justices.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added]” - Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden [emphasis added].” - United States v. Butler, 1936.
It might not help those without reading comprehension skills, but:
Corn, used for ethanol production is a crop.....the field is plowed and planted using gasoline or diesel powered tractors.....fertilizer is spread with the same tractors, pest control agents the same way, or at best, by gasoline powered aircraft. Harvesting equipment again use the same tractors and the trucks which haul the corn to the cribs are diesel powered.I assume that the equipment used to grind the corn and turn it into ethanol are powered by electricity which is usually generated by burning coal. The ethanol is then hauled, by a diesel powered truck or by diesel powered train, to a refinery where it is mixed with gasoline by using electric powered equipment.....
somewhere in there, someone has decided that there is some benefit....I don't see it.....and it consumes billions of taxpayers dollars.
I think you’re right. If there was a Trump quote stating that he favors mandates and subsidies, it seems to me we’d have seen it thousands of times by now. Even with the Cruz comment, iirc, Trump spoke only of ethanol, not of subsidies.
I don’t mind Trump liking or supporting ethanol. I’d like it a lot less if he specifically stated his support for subsidies and mandates.
We should not be subsidizing the burning of food.
I thought they passed that Fuel Mandate?
I can’t keep up. LOL
There are no subsidies, and when there were, they went to oil companies for using ethanol, not to ethanol producers.
There is also a ‘Renewable Energy Certificate’ scam that’s not really a subsidy, but is bad nonetheless.
It's just the opposite. The subsidy expired in 2011. But the mandate remains in place.
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