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The Postal Service Is Delivering Itself Into Bankruptcy, Audit Shows
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 1/21/2016 | John Merline

Posted on 01/22/2016 3:48:46 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

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To: IBD editorial writer
As noted in the article, but with emphasis for others -

The problem with the usps is a combination of things. The biggest are funding of their healthcare system, and pensions.

It doesn't help that there is a union involved, making it hard to fire anyone.

The upps management tries to save cost by limiting employee hours, etc. the union (and workers) do things slower. Limiting hours and deliveries won't save much, because the workers are still going to be paid their contractual hours.

Solution - get rid of dead weight, change the pension system, put them on obamacare? But in reality, nothing will happen.

41 posted on 01/22/2016 7:33:40 AM PST by backpacker_c
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To: Heart of Georgia

I’m not sure ‘bout your ‘thousands of pieces’; much has gone the way of ‘paper-less’.

‘Bout the only thing I still get in the mail...is JUNK.


42 posted on 01/22/2016 7:56:28 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Heart of Georgia

Sorry, POST’d before finished my thought:

And still, I don’t see the need for ‘high expectations’ in the job (course, I AM talking about a govt ‘worker’...so yeah, an oxy-moron).


43 posted on 01/22/2016 7:58:00 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

I suppose you’d have to see it then. More mail than you realize goes through the main post offices, including the junk, but they also process and handle UPS items.

And then there are stubborn folks like me who will always get their bills and financial statement via snail mail.

I do gripe about the junk, though, mostly because it takes up room in my garbage bags and then I have to pay someone to haul it off.


44 posted on 01/22/2016 11:40:24 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Heart of Georgia

Just curious, do you work there? On what are you basing such a stupid comment.


45 posted on 01/22/2016 11:54:42 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: i_robot73

**And still, I don’t see the need for ‘high expectations’ in the job (course, I AM talking about a govt ‘worker’...so yeah, an oxy-moron)**

I get it about gov’t employees, but this is one of those subjects that’s been painted with too broad of a brush and beaten like a dead horse.

Yes, there are a lot of freeloaders who should be fired, but the odds are against that and they know it. So they’re basically postal welfare recipients; however, they aren’t paid through taxes. It’s just another thing we can add to the list to thank the useless unions for.

**No rocket science requiring a 6-figure income and same retirement bennies.**

There aren’t many 6-figure incomes at the PO, although that’s another one that’s spread about. No, the high paychecks go to upper management and definitely not paid to the skilled labor — machinists/mechanics, computer programmers, engineers, electricians, just to name a few of the skills that also earn high pay in the private sector.

Many postal employees are veterans who learned these skills in the military.

As far as the retirement “bennies,” PO employees pay into their own private retirement account through payroll deductions (although some of the more recent hires do pay half into SS). And these private accounts are being threatened by the same folks who want to confiscate your IRA.

Also, contrary to another fallacy, health insurance is not provided for the employee’s family.

Before you ask: I own a small business and don’t work for the PO or the gov’t.


46 posted on 01/22/2016 12:05:00 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Vermont Lt

No, you’re not just curious.

And you don’t really want a truthful answer, just a reason to call someone you don’t agree with stupid.


47 posted on 01/22/2016 12:22:07 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: bert

Even letters. I have tried to sign up for a credit card here or there and the company won’t accept my PO Box. So I can’t “receive” the actual credit card. Not a package.


48 posted on 01/22/2016 12:23:15 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Heart of Georgia

If you did work there you would know that the “employee for live” attitude ended in the late 1980s.

This ain’t you father’s post office.


49 posted on 01/22/2016 2:19:07 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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"Back in the day," kings granted a postal monopoly to their favorites because they could get rich delivering mail. My, how times have changed.
50 posted on 01/22/2016 2:37:20 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Fresh Wind
So you're OK with someone you don't know opening your mail?

What kind of ridiculous straw man is this?

The mail can simply be encrypted and emailed to someone's secured email address.

Paper mail is dead. I do all of my bill-paying online and receive my bills online.

51 posted on 01/22/2016 3:34:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Vermont Lt

I don’t know how to answer you, because no matter what I know as a fact, you challenge me because you know different facts.

You can’t change what I know. It seems our facts are different based on our experiences regarding the PO. But your facts don’t change my facts. I can only conclude that you’re offended for some reason, and I didn’t mean to do that.

There are a lot of hardworking employees at the PO, and I know probably 20 or so of them. They’re highly skilled at what they do. Most are former military, some have technical school training, but none of them make 6 figures as many like to complain about - however, there’s no doubt they would make more money in the private sector using the same skills.

My husband even had a good friend who was murdered while on the job by another employee. The murderer still collects a paycheck because he was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

I’ll just say this regarding the policy you mentioned ... relying on a policy being in effect is only as good as enforcement of that policy. Political correctness is rampant at the PO and policy is being ignored for PC reasons, and factor in help by the union.

I’m thinking the Hatch Act is still a policy at the PO. If so, it’s also ignored for PC reasons.

I will admit, there are some things that absolutely will get an employee fired ... stealing from the PO is one, being caught doing drugs on the job is another.

However, laziness and lack of knowledge for an assigned job is most definitely tolerated. They handle laziness with a slap on the hand - a letter of reprimand and maybe a couple of weeks on the street without pay. Then the union steps in.

If they don’t know the job, they’re sent off to a tech school located out west. If that doesn’t work, they handle it by mixing the know-nothings in with others who do know what they’re doing. As the skilled employees retire, what happens is anyone’s guess.


52 posted on 01/22/2016 3:39:43 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: A_perfect_lady

Prior to the current PC they hired vets such as my uncle, but he and most of his coworkers actually did their job, the latest batch of hires seems like I owe them something. So if the USPS goes away too bad for them.


53 posted on 01/23/2016 3:42:57 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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