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Cruz's Consular Report of Birth
Market-ticker.org ^ | 2/9/2015 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 02/09/2016 6:01:09 AM PST by zek157

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To: svcw

What court ruled in Cruz favor?


61 posted on 02/09/2016 6:41:18 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: JJ_Folderol

His father didn’t become a US citizen unit 2005, when he renounced his Canadian citizenship.


62 posted on 02/09/2016 6:41:52 AM PST by stormer
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To: SmokingJoe

No, they are American citizens by virtue of law and statutes. Did you have to fill out paperwork for them?

I know I did for my son born in Germany. He was not automatically a citizen, even though born of two American citizens at a Military Base. I had to have forms filed with the State Department.


63 posted on 02/09/2016 6:42:58 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: jpsb

It would be very simple for Cruz to clear this up. If he wins the nomination without doing so, the democrats will make sure it gets cleared up when it is is too late to do a thing about it.


64 posted on 02/09/2016 6:43:43 AM PST by dforest
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To: Harpotoo

Has it been easy to clear up obummer? Nope!
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No, it hasn’t been easy because the worthless cowardly court system in this country refuses to do the job that the Constitution vests in them. By all manner of device and side step they have punted every time.


65 posted on 02/09/2016 6:46:22 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Jane Long
-- Significantly, Canada prohibited dual nationality at the time of Cruz/s birth. --

That's immaterial when you get right down to it. His claim to US citizenship survives Canada's limitations, and no matter how you cut it, whether he had the claim adjudicated as an infant, or has it adjudicated tomorrow, he is a naturalized US citizen.

66 posted on 02/09/2016 6:46:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: dforest

Let’s assign Sheriff Joe to find the CRBA.


67 posted on 02/09/2016 6:48:02 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Dstorm
FWIW, in that era, Cruz would have obtained a FS-545. The FS-240 didn't come into being until late 1990.

Both documents have the same legal effect, they are evidence of natrualized US citizenship. A person born in the US cannot get a FS-240.

68 posted on 02/09/2016 6:49:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: AnalogReigns

“...children of citizens..” Note the plurality.


69 posted on 02/09/2016 6:49:54 AM PST by stormer
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To: Steven Tyler
How do you know Ted's mom kept her US citizenship?

If you have anything beyond mere speculation, provide it. Otherwise you are just stirring the pot. It is not an easy thing to renounce your citizenship, and even harder to regain your citizenship once it is renounced. Ted's mom is a US citizen and was at the time of his birth. That is all that matters with regard to her.

Unsubstantiated Comments like these are why "birthers" are looked upon with such contempt by most of the population. They rank down there with the "9-11 truthers" and the tin-foil hat crowd. "What if"... "How do we know"... "I heard"... Never provide any proof of their claims, just throw out FUD.

70 posted on 02/09/2016 6:52:12 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: riverdawg
-- Section 301 (b) of the INA of 1952 stipulated that someone born abroad to a US citizen parent could lose US citizenship unless he or she lived in the US at least five years between the ages of 14 and 28. Cruz would have satisfied this condition which, in any case, was subsequently struck down by the US Supreme Court. --

The link didn't work. What is the case that struck down citizenship retention? The Bellei case upheld a retention requirement. The retention rquirement when Bellei was born was 5 years before age 21.

Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)

71 posted on 02/09/2016 6:52:54 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: nclaurel

I think the reference is to NH election board (case dismissed without reaching the merits), and IL election board (summarily found NBC without addressing the objector’s legal argument)


72 posted on 02/09/2016 6:54:50 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: ziravan

So you’re saying he’s a NBC of two different countries?


73 posted on 02/09/2016 6:54:55 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Duchess47

German law is different from British law. The Germans have always gone for being of German blood rather then being merely born in Germany.


74 posted on 02/09/2016 6:55:26 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Steven Tyler
Except, you have no proof or US government document recognising Ted Cruz as a US Citizen!

Mom's US bc plus Cruz's Canadian bc is all that's needed to document that he is a citizen.

75 posted on 02/09/2016 6:56:48 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SmokingJoe

You said both your children are British nbc and USA nbc.
So are they loyal to Britain or to USA? or to both countries (i.e. they have divided loyalty!)?

And congratulation - one of them can be British prime minister and the other can be US president! Together they will rule the world.


76 posted on 02/09/2016 6:58:43 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: FreeReign
-- Mom's US bc plus Cruz's Canadian bc is all that's needed to document that he is a citizen. --

That's false.

Mom has to be a US citizen when Ted is born. Her BC doesn't prove that.

Also, mom and dad had to be married. Also, mom had to be a US resident for a minimum period of time before Ted was born.

I'm not saying those facts aren't true, just saying that the two BC's don't prove them.

77 posted on 02/09/2016 6:59:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Duchess47
Duchess,

Read the title of the FS-240 "Report of Birth Abroad of a US Citizen" with that form you either applied (like I did) for a US passport or added him to yours when you went back to the States. Look at the documents required to get the FS-240, these same document's could have been used to get his passport instead. He was automatically a US citizen.

"The child's parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship."

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

78 posted on 02/09/2016 7:00:29 AM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: SmokingJoe

My son was a natural born citizen of Germany at birth, a citizenship he had to renounce at age 18.


79 posted on 02/09/2016 7:03:18 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: chrisnj
It's not mutually exclusive. You don't have to be disloyal to America to be loyal to Britain. The two countries have been allies for decades. Britain is America's closest ally.
However, if any of them should be foolish enough to want to run for president(just kidding), they are gonna have to renounce their US citizenship, and even after that they'd be raked over the coals by birtherism. I wouldn't recommend it myself.
80 posted on 02/09/2016 7:05:03 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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