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Post South Carolina Results – “The Looming Inferno”…
The Last Refuge/Conservative Treehouse ^ | February 21, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 02/21/2016 2:44:41 PM PST by Bratch

Be of good cheer and enjoy the removal of one-half of the globalists 2016 objectives; indeed a difficult Rubicon has been successfully traversed.  However, do not be naïve in thinking one significant battle means the war has been won.

The bloodiest battle still lays ahead.

♦ Jeb Bush has been forced out of the race.  It cannot be overstated how significant this victory is in the grand scheme of things.  The foundational block, upon which the entire road-map was built, has been removed.  However, the GOPe engineers will now shift attention to a scorched earth campaign to benefit their retention of power.

We would all be wise to remember in 2014 Chris McDaniels actually defeated Thad Cochran in the first GOP Mississippi primary.  It was only after their initial defeat the GOPe decided to destroy anything that stood in their way – again, the retention of power was the ultimate motivator.

We can now expect those same DC influences, including the entire camp that supported Jeb Bush, the old guard, to work diligently (albeit under darkened cover) to assist Hillary Clinton, and destroy anything that would interrupt their grip on power.

Yes, the GOPe would rather lose to Hillary and retain their place at the trough than to see entry into their cloistered club by the Vulgarian Donald Trump.

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That inevitable and predictable result was/is part of the original problem.

The full weight of the GOPe apparatus, Wall Street, the U.S. CoC, K-Street and the affiliated professional political class will now work hand-in-hand with the Democrats and left-wing media to destroy that which threatens them; namely Donald J Trump.  Attacks in all forms are only going to get worse from here on out.

Trump refusing to thank the Bush Clan upon exit was simply recognition of his awareness of what’s to come.  Trump, and the close circle around him, are well aware of what happens next….. They simply have to be.

♦ “Ceilings” – There will be much media obfuscation around Trump having ceilings, or limits to his appeal.  These necessarily promoted memes and narratives will have to be pushed to provide distraction and gaslight those voters with common sense.

In reality election results are ceilings themselves, and while they may proclaim Trump has a 35% +/- ceiling, the reality is yesterday Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz had ceilings around the 22% range.  Election results are ceilings.  Ceilings move along with the thinning out of campaign contestants.

FACT – As long as Trump’s “Ceiling” is higher than his competition he will continue to win, and there’s nothing on the visible horizon to indicate he will lose.  Talk of “ceilings” is merely obfuscation and denial of reality.

♦ John Kasich – Remember, Kasich will not even be competitive in most of the upcoming races.  Nor is Kasich on all of the upcoming state’s ballots.  So why does he stay in?  He is a loyal soldier for the Old Guard.  He still has a role to play, an agenda to deliver and promises to keep.

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♦ Ted Cruz – Ted’s loss yesterday (as described here), showcases what we have outlined for a long time.  Team Cruz does not carry a pathway to a successful nomination. Period.  If Cruz cannot win a single county in 75% evangelical voter friendly South Carolina, where exactly can he win?

SEC primary states or not, Ted Cruz’s last and only firewall before an embarrassing, albeit lucrative, exit is Texas.  If Cruz doesn’t win Texas, he’s done.  But he needs to keep talking like it’s possible in order for the supporters to hit the donation buttons on the increasingly urgent and desperate emails.

Team Cruz talking points will center around beating Trump by a.) confronting Trump directly, or, b)  taking down Marco Rubio.  Except Cruz faces a reality problem.  Taking support from Rubio only benefits Trump, not Cruz.

♦ Marco Rubio – We have continually referenced readers to weigh only polling that is not agenda driven polling.  Meaning polling results which are not driven by insiders in the professional political game.  You can see from last night’s results the NBC/WSJ poll was insufferably wrong (derived from a PR firm).  So too was the Fox Poll, and almost all of the 48 hour polls prior to the actual voting in South Carolina.

However, in the non-agenda polling, done by actual political scientists without a financial stake in the outcome, you see a key point repeating over the past several months.  If you take down Marco Rubio, Donald Trump’s numbers increase but not Ted Cruz.

The Southern Political Poll is a great representative example – SEE HERE.

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Horse race #1 = first choice, Horse race #2 = second choice.

Only Donald Trump holds more than 50% when combining first and second preference inobjective polling stats (again, agenda polls are useless for this analysis).

It is conversely true that Rubio would benefit from a Trump downfall or exit.  However, it is also true that any benefit therein to Cruz would be minimal.  Cruz’s base voters are the purest of ideological voters, as a consequence moderates do not traverse easily into that camp – even if their favorite issues are represented within it.

As we previously shared, in a three man race with Trump, Rubio and Cruz a generally admitted outcome would be:

We have not had an “America-First” (center-right) candidate for a long time.  That is the new paradigm everyone is struggling to define.  And when you combine that broad-based coalition it takes all the positional oxygen from the GOPe and far right.

America-first immigration policies; strong border security; Pro U.S. worker trade-policies; Main Street (not Wall Street) American worker interests; Local education (not common core); Strong national defense, but common sense non-intervention.  All policies dominated by Donald J Trump.

One of the historic truisms in the past several election cycles is the “Cruz Coalition”, as currently assembled, is the first to stay home when their candidate doesn’t win.  The socially-minded voter will never vote for a populist fiscal conservative/socially moderate candidate.  Cruz voters, and their advocates, are emotionally driven by social issues. Hence they yell a lot (See Mark Levin) and only respond well to others who are inside their echo-chamber.

Consequently neither Rubio nor Trump will try to gain/court Cruz voters.  Why should they; the narrow-minded group will never vote for them, if they vote at all.

This ‘non-voting’ truism is why the GOPe ignore the Cruz-like factions completely; because rarely will the GOPe be influenced by them.  When Cruz-Clan get angry and don’t get their way they don’t vote.

The modern way to deal with that faction is to make them angry, and they leave.  (Example: Questioning eligibility sets them off easily and they lose control. They might even invite another sketchy character, Glenn Beck, to help showcase their entrenched ideological moonbattery.) See how easy that is?  More exposure to the crazy = less votes in crazy camp.

Both Trump and Rubio will most likely ignore Cruz, as neither stands to benefit much.

However, Rubio will be forced to confront Trump if he is to have any chance of winning anywhere…… AND that’s where Rubio benefits from Team Bush.  Rubio will not have to attack Trump, because the GOPe Old Guard is about to do that dirty work for him.

Lastly, when encountering either Cruz sycophants, or big government GOPe Rubiobots the best thing to do is ask a simple question:

….”OK, let’s presume the race is a simple three-way contest, what state is YOUR GUY going to win”?….

Absent of scorched-earth intervention, Donald Trump is well positioned to run the table.  However, he’s also entering the eye-wall of the hurricane; for the next ten days he needs to withstand the fury.

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To: Bratch

Here is an example of the Pundits and their "Ceiling" limitation......

Trump won by double digits again. Hard to compare the win to the polls because some of them like the NBC/WSJ decided to do an agenda poll right before the election. Right about now they are trying to get the rotten egg out of their hair.

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a 3 Way Race for the Republican Party.

  1. Donald Trump

  2. Marco Rubio

  3. Ted Cruz

 

Trump: Watching the TV last night I saw it from all three major networks. "Yeah, Trump won, but we will talk about who wins the 2nd place". This was a dominating double digit win. He won all of the delegates. At times FOX NEWS at least went to the digital board and show that Cruz's supposed evangelical base is just not there. It wasn't until Hannity came on and he had Mayor Giuliani on who finally pointed out just how big of a win this is. Now many of the pundits and the people who don't like Trump will complain about the vitriol. But this is South Carolina, they like to see if a candidate can take a punch and then punch back. What they saw was a power hitter laying people flat out.

Rubio: With Jeb bowing out and I consider Kasich a non factor. Marco should pick up the Establishment support. His speech was nice, the guy can really give a polished speech. But this is another problem. I really think that along with Political Correctness, canned speeches are becoming so "Last Election Cycle". This country elected a President that is a master of reading off a Teleprompter, a master at it. All the other skills required for the job were totally lacking and we are currently paying the price. But it was a pretty speech. This is where the "Cieling" crap on TV was crazy, they assume that Rubio will get ALL of Jeb's numbers. And that is just not true. He will get most. But "most" will not be enough to overcome Trump.

Cruz: Outside of Jeb, Cruz was the biggest loser. Almost immediately Cruz's people were saying "South Carolina" means nothing. This state was never on our radar, was never a "Must win". They were spinning like a Kenmore on meth. All we heard was how Cruz was going to carry the state, or at least carry the evangelical vote. He went about the state with pastors far & wide, he toured with Glen Beck, who I must say...Cruz needs to distance himself from Beck, he is giving off serious "Looney" vibes. Glen Beck IMHO needs to grab some prepper food packs and go live in a cave for a while till his sanity returns. I used to DVR his TV show on FOX NEWS, I really liked the guy, but since he went solo the marbles have been escaping the noggin.....get my drift? Back to Cruz. He has the deep, deep conservative vote. That vote alone will not win him the nomination. Outside of a decent showing in Texas (his home state), I just cant see a path to the Nomination for him.

 

Other tid bits. Things are looking good for the eventual GOP Nominee. Turnout between the parties are almost polar opposites. The Democrats were lucky to get a couple dozen to caucus in Nevada. New Hampshire numbers were the same, way down from 2008. Iowa is hiding the final tally. But in NH and SC, Republican turnout have set records.

COLD ANGER HAS ARRIVED

 

We live in interesting times my friends. I hope your popcorn supply is high. If not ask Glen Beck, I am sure he has a stockpile in his prepper supply.

 

41 posted on 02/21/2016 3:23:39 PM PST by TheShaz
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To: Bratch

Today Trump in Atlanta remarked how much he loved Twitter, “It’s like owning the New York Times without all the lawsuits”.

He will drive DefeaTED nuts with early morning tweets that prick and prod him off-message. Cruz is screwed - Trumps tweets reach 6.3 million people - more than 4 times the NYT’s circulation. If he lets them go unchallenged, Trump wins. If he is drawn into refuting them, Trump wins.

Trump will dominate the rallies too - the buzz is always focused on winners and champions, not the sourpuss who came in 3rd.


42 posted on 02/21/2016 3:24:58 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: lodi90

Rubio is more conservative than tRump.


43 posted on 02/21/2016 3:24:58 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: Theophilus
Congrats on the plurality.

I'm sure cruz is looking at Trumps plurality with envy. He has never gotten over 30% anywhere. In fact cruz is probably lusting after rubio's vote total about now.
44 posted on 02/21/2016 3:25:24 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - DC Values)
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To: DoughtyOne

Look, these cult typers don’t vote anyway, if not for their keeper.

Rubio isn’t even going after them. The GOPE certainly has already written them off.

This is why the appreciable gains that TRUMP has made across the board wins the day. There cult votes are replaced, nearly daily, as the TRUMP train rolls on through the South.

It is no lock that Cruz can win TEXAS. His appearance on one of the morning shows today, maybe Chris Wallace, told that story. South Carolina was Cruz’ doing Custer. He rode in with flags flying and met Waterloo.

He spoke of TEXAS as if it were just one more state, for one thing, in his tone. His body language and expression was screaming his uncertainty for winning, even TEXAS. Certainly, he dared not even hint at victory, and any crowing about this damn army of thousands of “volunteers” was entirely absent from his usual rave review of himself and his powers.


45 posted on 02/21/2016 3:25:39 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Steve_Seattle

1 Tim 3 is regarding a leader of believers. Specially a Bishop and not a political leader or ruler of a country.

One is a spiritual leader and the other is a political leader or ruler of a nation or country. In my opinion they have completely different qualifications and responsibilities.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 3:25:41 PM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: Happy Rain

Is your self imposed delusion catching? Hope not.


48 posted on 02/21/2016 3:27:21 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: lodi90

And Romney went on to win!


49 posted on 02/21/2016 3:28:31 PM PST by Theophilus (Make America Hope for Great Change Again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I noticed an uptick in Ted’s support well before Iowa. The elderly and timid were taking a more sympathetic view of him as someone who could be trusted.

But it appears Ted’s choice of campaign team was in error. They did him in. They convinced him that their sleazeball tactics were what was needed in SC, and so they set about turning off a large segment of evangelicals there, due solely in the manner of their delivery.

What it points out is that Ted needed a ‘ground game’ but was inexperienced in how to organize and command one. He gave it over to others and in so doing he lost his message.

Donald Trump simply has more mastery of branding and messaging than any other candidate. And he has experience managing a large organization of executives that adhere to his way of communicating and executing.


50 posted on 02/21/2016 3:30:01 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Theophilus

And Romney went on to win!


Yes, Romney won the nomination. What is Cruz trying to do? Lose?


51 posted on 02/21/2016 3:32:35 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: DuncanWaring

I did a search.

*sigh*


52 posted on 02/21/2016 3:32:46 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch
"One of the historic truisms in the past several election cycles is the “Cruz Coalition”, as currently assembled, is the first to stay home when their candidate doesn’t win. The socially-minded voter will never vote for a populist fiscal conservative/socially moderate candidate. Cruz voters, and their advocates, are emotionally driven by social issues."

We've seen it here on FR in spades. Cruz voters will never vote for Trump, certainly the vast majority.

One needs a strategy to win the primary without them. Or, one will lose.

That's sad, but true.

53 posted on 02/21/2016 3:36:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: Bratch

So the movement is not so much pro-Trump as it is anti-Cruz?

No, the movement is ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT. Trump and Cruz are just grabbing different segments.

Cruz: Deep, deep conservatives. And some evangelicals. You saw last night, he is not getting as much of them as predicted.

Trump: He has a wider net, and therefore more people and votes. His bashing Political Corectness, it has been discounted by way too many. But it is striking a chord from Conservatives to Reagan Democrats and Independants. Thanks to Obama, Americahas been kicked around, put down and spit apon to the extent I have not seen since the Jimmy Carter days. Trump's brash talk is resonating

Now personally I am #1 for Trump and #2 for Cruz. If something happens and Trump falters and falls away, I will support Cruz. I expect the same to happen in reverse. I know some on here say "No Way", but most will. 

I know the race got heated in South Carolina, but that is SC for you, by the time the race gets there, they want to see if you can take and give a punch. In the end, I expect to see all the GOP Candidates on the stage in Cleveland in July.

I think Trump said it best last night "Running for President is tough, its nasty, its mean......its beautiful"


54 posted on 02/21/2016 3:36:16 PM PST by TheShaz
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To: DJ MacWoW

It isn’t over yet. There have been only THREE primaries. Voters have a right to choose and you have no right to defame them because you disagree. That’s a tactic of the left and unworthy of you.


Sorry, you’re whistling past the graveyard. There are 11 races on Super Tuesday and Cruz is only favored in his home state. This is two horse race now: Trump and Rubio.


55 posted on 02/21/2016 3:36:47 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: INVAR

When you’re part of a cult mentality, everyone becomes “frightening” who doesn’t want in it.


56 posted on 02/21/2016 3:38:33 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"He must "be of even temper, self-controlled, modest, and hospitable . . . he ought not to be contentious . . . HE SHOULD NOT BE A NEW CONVERT, lest he become conceited . . . he must also be well thought-of by those outside the church, to ensure that he does not fall into disgrace . . . "

1. We are not hiring a pastor.

2. What many are missing is that Trump's 'outbursts' are not temper tantrums. They are demonstrations, he is well in control of them, virtually to the point that he is only acting. If you have a problem with a politician acting, grow up, they all do it and have to do it for a very stilly electorate 80% of which does not respond to reason, hence the need to act.

To test this theory: We know that Hillary, who appears in control, has a long long long history of abusing staff. When you can come up with example of Donald Trump abusing associates and business partners - and I'm not here talking about being a demanding boss or business man - I'm talking about childish outbursts, I will start to entertain the idea that he's not in virtual total control of his expressions of anger. But also keep in mind, when you pee, you have to actually pee something, you can't just talk about peeing. When you are angry - you must yell where no one is listening. You must express.

But don't be fooled totally by Trump tailoring his outbursts not because he's out of control, but because he's demonstrating a point. You don't like it you say? Maybe it's because the rest of us are comprehending something you're missing, not the other way around. Yes we see the so called tantrums. But what you fail to recognize is there is not INNER tantrum going on. He's communicating with a country the makes it's choices on an emotional level.

Have you noticed that it's working? It's mostly by design, although I will not say devoid of anger. It's not a total act - the energy is real, but the expression of it is controlled and placed.

57 posted on 02/21/2016 3:39:40 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: lodi90

Again, it isn’t over yet.


58 posted on 02/21/2016 3:40:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Steve_Seattle
That Biblical reference is concerning a church leader, not a national leader.

Even King David was suitable as a national leader to God. And he had a man killed so he could marry his wife.

There's a whole bunch of mortal sin in that story.

And Jesus was a descendant of David.

And it was Jesus that told us to respect and yield to Caesar and his government.

God has always drawn a clear line between government of man and government of Heaven.

59 posted on 02/21/2016 3:43:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: COBOL2Java

One has to love the beauty of the uniform and those old M-14s.


60 posted on 02/21/2016 3:47:00 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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