Posted on 03/09/2016 5:58:07 AM PST by Kaslin
Call me whatever you like. All I want is my Constitution back.
Trump is running on a very conservative platform. The only ones who don’t really see this are ones who have a very narrow definition of what conservatism is. As a result they’re reduced to basically disregarding Trump’s platform and inserting their own opinions about what Trump is going to do after he’s elected.
What’s your definition?
It has been that way for years. The current GOP is the party of nothing that stands for nothing. Nothing that the American people believe that represents them at all.
They squandered so much under Bush, The had all three branches and blew it. By design? Maybe, but it may be just because they stood for nothing but pleasing the donor class and the COC.
They still refuse to become the party of something worth voting for that actually benefits US citizens.
Because of that, they deserve the scorn and they need to be taken down like the rabid dogs they are.
First of all, I am going to vote for Cruz in my primary. If Trump is nominated, I will vote for him but I have no real faith he won’t disappoint in a new and fresh way 24 months into his term if elected.
All that being said. I see Trump winning with 28 to 42% against the three remaining. I see Cruz as consistently second and only occasionally first. He is 5 to 15% behind Trump. We don not yet have a contest where Donald Trump can get 65 to 85% of the vote. Why is that.
Where will the Rubio, Kasich, and other voters go if it is just Trump and Cruz?
Are the Trump negatives solid and permanent?
Exactly.
Trump is a pragmatist who lives in the real world.. You can go through life with purist ideals and lose, or be a pragmatist and win.
If you never win, you're out of the game and have no influence,
Here is one definition of conservatism, for your consideration. House conservatives formed the Liberty Caucus to advance conservatism. Having little or no success, the caucus was disbanded. In its place House conservatives formed a smaller, more conservative caucus which they named the Freedom Caucus.
Members of the Freedom Caucus gave a supermajority of support to Paul Ryan, as Boehner’s replacement.
That’s the D.C./career politician’s definition of conservatism.
The last time an actual conservative won? 1980. The last time an actual conservative was nominated? 1980. Every GOP nominee since has been the "electable", big-government, liberal/RINO, non-choice. What did we "win" by electing people without conservative principals over the last 35 years?
Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.
By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life
When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didnt like it. Compromise was a dirty word to them and they wouldnt face the fact that we couldnt get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you dont get it all, some said, dont take anything. Id learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average. If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and thats what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.
“Trump is a pragmatist who lives in the real world.. You can go through life with purist ideals and lose, or be a pragmatist and win.
If you never win, you’re out of the game and have no influence,”
You nailed it! We do not have free trade now, we actually have to move other nations to achieve it...Trump knows how to negotiate that...
“Whats your definition?”
Mine is more of classical Liberalism.
Individualism, consent, the concepts of the rule of law and government as trustee, the significance of property, and religious toleration. Individuals in the state of nature as being free and equal. Individuals should give consent to government and therefore authority derives from the people rather than from above.
John Locke expresses my views most accurately.
Then I’m a realist.
Now we're dogmatic.
“Your definition matches mine.
Now we’re dogmatic.”
Oh, I thought I was a purist. So confusing.
poll after poll shows Trump winning conservatives. Add just “conservative”, or “moderate conservative” and Trump’s percentages skyrocket. (because most people do NOT identify with far right wing conservatives) and Trump’s percentages skyrocket.
Only the phony polls are trumpeted by the MSM. Even RCP (which I don’t follow because what good is yesterday’s weather forecast?) had the THREE most recent, post debate, Michigan polls showing Trump in the high thirties. Where he actually finished, by the way.
Why didn’t the MSM tout THESE polls? Because they hoped the phony polls, supposedly showing Trump slipping and others gaining strength, would negatively influence the people who hadn’t yet voted.
Trump showed yesterday that he is SURGING not waning. They did report on Trump’s win, but with all the reporting on his soon to be decline, you would think his YUGE wins would be the BIG story. Noooooo it’s BERNIE!
Stop the presses (do they still have those?). Bernie beats Hillary by ONE percent! It’s a Bernie landslide!
Who cares????? Bernie has ZERO chance of getting the nomination and a less than ZERO chance of becoming the president. If the MSM has repeated orgasms over Bernie’s LANDSLIDE one percent win, they have far less time to talk about the Trump (oh hum) wins.
PATHETIC! and Yes I do think Cokie Roberts is Megyn Kelly’s mother. The resemblance is remarkable, especially the eyes!
yeah, it is the conservative purist’s fault.
not mccain.
not romney.
not ghwb.
not mcconnell.
not dole.
not boehner.
the problem in the republican party is the conservative purists.
riiiiight.
Constitutionalist is more concise and alot harder to hijack.
Exactly. Watching so-called conservatives give a sellout Uniparty shill like Paul Ryan a standing o was sickening, and people like Jonah have the gall to question why people are supporting Trump when they see crap like that.
“So I will happily support Trump and hope he does half of what he brags about, secure in the knowledge that at the very least he has really upset the GOP apple cart which badly needs to be done”
That’s where I’m going. Trump is far from perfect, but the GOPe need to be run off as a good first step, along with illegals. Getting American jobs back is a good idea. Good trade deals too. It’s not possible to have perfection as in another Reagan. Trump is not and never will be a Reagan. And Trump is more of a populist or nationalist than a conservative - but that sure beats the hell out of being a leftist and the country knows it.
Jonah has become unhinged
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