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Cellphone Footage Details LaVoy Finicum Traffic Stop, Shooting
http://truthinmedia.com/video-details-lavoy-finicum-traffic-stop-shooting/ ^

Posted on 03/09/2016 3:47:24 PM PST by navysealdad

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To: semimojo; YankeeinOkieville
OK. You're off into fringe conspiracy land.

So, you're on record denying that the fbi agents tried to cover up for their shooter who tried to cap Finicum with his hands raised at the outset..

Also that the Deschutes County Sheriff and his people are "off into fringe conspiracy land".

We'll continue the Finicum discussions in the future with your candid admission of your position in this matter.

Thanks! This clarifies the matter, at least in your case...

521 posted on 03/12/2016 8:04:06 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: YankeeinOkieville; semimojo
Check out post #519 by half-charm, wherein he claims that people who claim the leos and fbi all lied are "off into fringe conspiracy land".

Which group of people would, of course, include the Deschutes County Sheriff's Department...

522 posted on 03/12/2016 8:09:33 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: YankeeinOkieville
I just saw where the apologist tried to smear you as a "conspiracy guy", too.

Pathetic. If a poster brings up "inconvenient true facts", they're a "conspiracy nut".

Kind of like 0Muslim & his supporters scream "RACISS!!!" - when everyone knows that Muslim isn't a race.

Everyone also knows that OSP "pretend soldiers" aren't REAL soldiers.

And boy did they show it while they were gunning down Finicum in cold, jittery blood... :)

523 posted on 03/12/2016 8:20:14 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: semimojo; YankeeinOkieville
Investigators calculated Finicum had 862 feet – nearly the length of three football fields – to stop once he saw the roadblock.

I just ran the numbers from the video. Giving the "investigators" the benefit of the doubt [3/8 inch=20 feet, instead of 1/2 inch-20 feet, we get 34 vehicle lengths [20 feet] from the time the truck's brake lights come on in the video. That's 680 feet, not 862 feet [the difference is most of a football field]. The "investigators" neglected to take into account that Finicum crossed lanes when coming into the blind curve before the deadly [and probably illegal] hidden roadblock- a common occurrence during regular driving on twisty roads.

Did it myself tonight, several times.

I think it's noble that the leos hired the "intellectually challenged" as "investigators" in this case.

Good on them, and more power to the ADA. :)

524 posted on 03/12/2016 8:57:16 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: kiryandil
I just ran the numbers from the video. Giving the "investigators" the benefit of the doubt [3/8 inch=20 feet, instead of 1/2 inch-20 feet, we get 34 vehicle lengths [20 feet] from the time the truck's brake lights come on in the video.

I realize that your internet video forensic skills are epic, but you do know that it's possible for investigators to actually visit the location in question, right?

525 posted on 03/12/2016 9:54:04 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo; YankeeinOkieville
By GADS, you're a One-Note Johnny, half-charm! LOL! :)

You're talking about the lying, covering-up "investigators", remember?

Oh, BTW - are you advancing a conspiracy theory that the overhead video of the Finicum murder is not actually the real video?

OK. You're off into fringe conspiracy land.

526 posted on 03/12/2016 10:06:37 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: semimojo
I think it's sad that you don't support hiring the "mentally challenged", like these Oregon "investigators"

A decent person would give them a "shout-out", like I did.

Pretending, like you're doing, does them a disservice...

527 posted on 03/12/2016 10:13:52 PM PST by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: kiryandil

Thanks. Did it look to you, from the overhead drone video, as if a cop jumped into LaVoy’s lane of travel, green-lighting an “assault with a deadly weapon” scenario? Looked to me as if he’d have been safer where he was, and tthat it was known LaVoy would naturally fly wide left on the curve.


528 posted on 03/13/2016 2:06:19 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: kiryandil

Our Staters are tasked with fish and wildlife law enforcement. They do, in fact, sneak around in the woods, trying not to be seen. Big money in fines.


529 posted on 03/13/2016 2:10:00 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog
Did it look to you, from the overhead drone video, as if a cop jumped into LaVoy’s lane of travel, green-lighting an “assault with a deadly weapon” scenario? Looked to me as if he’d have been safer where he was, and tthat it was known LaVoy would naturally fly wide left on the curve.

I thought that when I first saw the video, but now I think that the OSP state trooper probably freaked out at the prospect of being behind a vehicle that was going to be hit by a pickup truck doing 50+ mph.

If he was doing anything other than that, he was being foolhardy. [trying to force Finicum into deeper snow, or purposely jumping to trigger what you wrote]

It just goes to show you how dangerous fixed roadblocks really are - for both sides of the encounter.

530 posted on 03/13/2016 9:23:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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To: gundog
Big money in fines.

I call those kinds "Revenooers", like the old Appalachian still-hunting leos.

531 posted on 03/13/2016 9:27:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chicago, March 2016: The Delphi Technique in action...)
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