Exactly. The majority parasite vote - people receiving government money in one way or another - has to be overcome to beat the democrats. Cruz WILL NOT get enough crossover and independent votes to do it. Trump is already doing it.
No, it's not. That there would be the slimeball's way of "winning". It is also precisely why I WILL NOT vote for sCruz if that's how he's gotta "win".
Well, look at it this way: If a majority of REPUBLICANS can’t support Trump, how in the world does he win the general?
“That’s not really a great way to win is it?”
No.
“Also, if he couldn’t beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?”
He’s doing better in the polls against Hillary than Trump. I choose to support the proven conservative who understands the Constitution and how the government works. I would have preferred Walker, but Cruz is the best that’s left. I understand why Trump supporters try to force others to get on the Trump train, but I see him as I see any other self-serving lib. Why would I choose that over a conservative?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_primaries_in_the_United_States
“Opponents of the open primary believe that the open primary leaves the party nominations vulnerable to manipulation and dilution. First, one party could organize its voters to vote in the other party’s primary and choose the candidate that they most agree with or that they think their party could most easily defeat. Secondly, in the open primary moderates and independent voters can vote in either party. This occurrence may dilute the vote of a particular party and lead to a nominee who does not represent the views of his or her particular party.
For example, in the 2008 presidential primaries, exit polls say John McCain failed to win a single race among Republican voters, up to Super Tuesday, yet during that same period he went from also-ran to front runner, because most non-Republicans who crossed over voted for him. In New Hampshire, Mitt Romney won among registered Republicans, but John McCain won overall [1]. Likewise, in South Carolina, Mike Huckabee won among self-identified Republicans, but John McCain won the state [2].
Similarly, some Republican advocates called for Republicans to cross over and vote in the Democratic race, to help Barack Obama win, on the premise that Clinton had a better chance of beating their candidate. The Rush Limbaugh Show’s “Operation Chaos” is the best known of these movements.”
States with open primaries...
Alabama
Arkansas
Georgia
Illinois
Indiana
Massachusetts (All races’ primaries open for “unenrolled”/unaffiliated voters only)
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
North Carolina (All races’ primaries open for unaffiliated voters only)
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma (Only Democratic primary is open to Independent voters as of November 2015) [11]
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin[12]
IMHO Democrats voting in open primary states chose the 2008 & 2012 Republican nominees.
Moral to the story?
1) Just because Trump is winning primaries does not mean he’s the choice for Republicans (he may be the #1 choice for Democrats trying to pick our nominee AGAIN).
2) Since this happened in 2008 and 2012 ... are we going to ignore that it appears to be happening again in 2016?
“Also, if he couldn’t beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?”
That’s it! If you say a conservative can’t beat Hillary, then conservatives should stop all this opposing liberals stuff. Support Trump.
But to win the presidency, Trump is going to have to get a large share of the intelligent vote.
Which raises another question: When will Trump start campaigning to win the intelligent vote?
Is that an honest question, or a propaganda tool used to influence the weak-minded?
Do you know how polls and sample groups work?
Do you realize that a different group of people are voting in republican primaries than are being polled in general election polls?
Hillary is far less popular than Obama
Obama barely won in 2012.
Romney lost because conservatives were de-motivated to turn out and vote.
Cruz is very conservative and motivating. That is obvious in the record turnout in primaries thoughougt this election primary season. That is true in states won by Cruz and Trump.
270towin.com shows the exact answers to your questions and Cruz does much better on this prospective problem than Trump.
Go ‘way, newb.
It's never been about "stopping Trump" for me.....Cruz has earned my support over the years, so I'll be sticking with him until the fat lady sings.
While others are whining about how Cruz is using the Republican primary system to advance....I see that as a sign of a determined man who has studied (1) Obama's rise to power and (2) his present adversaries (GOPe and fellow candidates).... to form a "political strategy" to win. I think that's a pretty good qualification for going up against the Socialist machine, should he succeed. Will Trump supporters/GOPe rank and file voters back him? Depends on how badly they want to prevent another 4 years of a like minded Obama replacement.
Trump has a harder road, IMHO, even if he gets the 1237 going into the convention. He has no strategy, ground game or experienced personnel supporting him....or he would have wiped the ground with Cruz long before this, just as he knocked out the others.
That tells me he doesn't have what it takes to beat Hillary, because it's going to take a heck of a lot more than "being popular" with a portion of the electorate to take her down. And thinking that the GOPe machine will get him over the line is like wishing on a star, since they couldn't even get their favored Romney or McCain over the finish line....so they sure can't/won't get Trump there.
It will take an organization like Cruz has built to take down the Dems. I hope, should the day arise, that Cruz will put all his assets and backing behind Trump if he's the final nominee.
Same thing applies should the GOPe put in a nominee over Trump/Cruz. They can't beat Hillary without Cruz's endorsement/organization and Trump's backing.
Trump so incredible and such a winner that if every last one of his opponents doesn’t drop out, he won’t win. Lucky for him Hillary will probally be arrested by november.
With a sledgehammer,
it’s the only way.
Best Wishes!
By Lincoln winning the nomination on the third ballot against Seward who had the plurality but not a majority on the earlier two ballots was the will of the regional forces sending delegates over turned and Lincoln not due the nomination?
The convention is a process, a hill to be won. Whoever wins, wins. There will be disappointments and hard feelings. We learn from childhood the evaluate the level of competitive injustices, and rejoin the ball game in most cases. We remember those that can't as never really caring about the team in the first place.
Just like every other GOP candidate since Reagan: we may not like the candidate, but he’s still way better than the alternative (the Democratic candidate). Fight like he11 to get the candidate we want, then fight like he11 to elect the candidate we’ve got.
If Cruz doesn't get 1237, he shouldn't be whining.
If Trump doesn't get 1237, he shouldn't be whining.
Serious answers from a Cruz supporter: Answer to first question: no, not really a great way to win. Trump’s campaign losing steam & Cruz winning before the convention would be my preference, but if it doesn’t happen, does Cruz stop being my favorite? No.
Answer to 2nd question: the same way Trump or anyone else would beat Hillary - by winning the required number of electoral votes (& possibly by litigating election fraud as needed). Can it be done? No idea. Can anyone beat Hillary? No idea. Will Hillary be the one to beat in the general - will she survive the email scandal & any others that may pop up? Will there be a viable 3rd party candidate? We don’t know yet. Time will tell.