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Sanders Supporters Lecture Former Soviet Citizen about Socialism, See How He Responds
Conservative Review ^ | 15 Apr, 2016 | CR Wire

Posted on 04/16/2016 8:20:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Garry Kasparov, a Russian pro-democracy leader, has apparently been taking a lot of heat from Bernie Sanders supporters who think they know more about socialism than he does.

His response: How are you all going to “lecture me”?

Check out his brilliant Facebook post below:


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bernie; berniesanders; garrykasparov; sanders; socialism

1 posted on 04/16/2016 8:20:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Sanders supporters deserve to be deported to N. Korea.


2 posted on 04/16/2016 8:20:47 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

N Korean people don’t deserve that. They suffer enough.


3 posted on 04/16/2016 8:25:55 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MtnClimber

Only the lunatic left knows anything, even if someone has lived through what they say they want, it matters not. Their elitism and pseudo knowledge trump all in their own minds. Delusions of grandeur.


4 posted on 04/16/2016 8:27:07 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: armydawg505

ROFL....That’s like someone coming out of the stands to show Stephen Curry how to shoot a basketball....


5 posted on 04/16/2016 8:28:32 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: MtnClimber

Spiro Agnew, before his time:

...an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals.


6 posted on 04/16/2016 8:29:30 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: MtnClimber
Brilliant statement directed at American citizens who, themselves, are products of decades-long "progressive" control of their "education" system.

Actually, by examining the fundamental ideas underlying the ideology of the "progressive" movement with its bent toward socialism, one might better understand that Bernie and Hillary are not far apart on the major issues.

The absolute, coercive and desperate determination of liberals/progressives on critical matters of the day may be better understood when the following light is shed upon it. See especially the first paragraph of the following:

From the Liberty Fund Library is "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, excerpted final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay, "The Impracticability of Socialism":

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. The struggle for life provides for the various wants of the human race, in somewhat the same way as the climatic struggle of the elements provides for vegetable and animal life—imperfectly, that is, and in a manner strongly marked by inequalities and anomalies. By taking advantage of prevalent tendencies, it is possible to mitigate these anomalies and inequalities, but all experience shows that it is impossible to do away with them. All history, moreover, is the record of the triumph of Individualism over something which was virtually Socialism or Collectivism, though not called by that name. In early days, and even at this day under archaic civilisations, the note of social life is the absence of freedom. But under every progressive civilisation, freedom has made decisive strides—broadened down, as the poet says, from precedent to precedent. And it has been rightly and naturally so.
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON


7 posted on 04/16/2016 8:36:52 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: dp0622

Maybe we can swap one-for-one. I’m sure the ones we get in return will have a more realistic view of socialism.


8 posted on 04/16/2016 8:38:27 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

and you KNOW they will own stores and become successful within a few years.


9 posted on 04/16/2016 8:39:48 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MtnClimber


10 posted on 04/16/2016 8:41:45 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: dp0622

+1


11 posted on 04/16/2016 8:43:32 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: JBW1949
That’s like someone coming out of the stands to show Stephen Curry how to shoot a basketball....

I am totally stealing that.

12 posted on 04/16/2016 8:52:38 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

LOL...OK...It’s yours....


13 posted on 04/16/2016 8:56:26 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: MtnClimber

Kasparov was the world chess champion for about 20 years running, with a reputed IQ of 190. These people are way, way, WAAAAAAAY out of their league.

The first rule of holes is to stop digging when you’re in one. Maybe these morons should adhere to that rule. Maybe they should actually pay attention and learn something.


14 posted on 04/16/2016 10:25:33 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: MtnClimber

A socialist sht storm is coming to America


15 posted on 04/16/2016 10:40:23 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: MtnClimber

Vague promises of corruptless socialism from Sanders supporters who have not done the math on the costs.

Dont these nitwit realize that every socialist country had people talking just like them about their socialist leaders as they do Sanders?

They need to watch Persepolis , or how the promise of Iranian socialism by socialist yielded violent islamic dictatorship and execution of said socialists


16 posted on 04/16/2016 10:47:06 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: MtnClimber

bump for later


17 posted on 04/16/2016 11:20:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber

bump for later


18 posted on 04/16/2016 11:20:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber
But he just had to slip this in there?

"Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely."

No it isn't. You're not starving, and how much money the next guy has is none of your business.

19 posted on 04/16/2016 11:22:02 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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