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What's the status of Donald Trump's campaign promises?
CBS News ^ | April 22, 2016, | REENA FLORES

Posted on 04/22/2016 8:30:37 AM PDT by Kegger

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To: NorthMountain

I think most people realize Trump is not a conservative ideologically. He identifies more with the party that is slightly more conservative, though he apparently despises some of its more socially conservative platform planks.

On the other hand, he may actually govern conservatively on issues where he promised to do so.

He promised to defund abortion.

He promised to build a wall and stop illegal immigration.

He promised to negotiate trade deals that actually favor America.

His supporters should have demanded he take similar positions on taxes, health care, religious freedom, and a number of other issues.

As it stands, his supporters do not care what Trump says or does. They imagine he will do the right thing.

On some things he probably will. On some he almost certainly will not. But loyalty to him must not be questioned.


41 posted on 04/22/2016 12:20:49 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: dynoman

“This is not rocket science.”

It’s also not rocket science to add a comment or put other’s comments in quotes.

But, even so, it still does not excuse the fact that you are re-posting someone else’s nasty lies about Cruz because it fits your agenda of maligning Cruz.

You could just as easily have re-tweeted comments from Planned Parenthood or the Clinton campaign. That’s essentially what you did. And it is because you are ideologically and philosophically aligned with Planned Parenthood and other leftwing haters of Cruz.

Because Cruz is usually right on the money when it comes to conservative positions, those who oppose him on this forum have had to resort to sliming his appearance, his voice, his family, and his supporters. There is hardly ever an attack based on his actual voting record or policy positions.

And the reasons to support Trump are never ideological either. Like liberals, the discussion is almost always about desired outcomes rather than the way to reach them. Great. Everyone wants to be more healthy, prosperous, and secure. Who doesn’t? Even the Democrats will agree. What we don’t agree on is how to get there.

But go ahead and keep posting nonsense like this. I have nothing against Trump personally. I just want him to commit to govern conservatively. He has earlier, but lately he seems to be moving left again. Moving left, and attacking Cruz are losing strategies.


42 posted on 04/22/2016 12:31:21 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

That is what tweets look like when posted. If you click your can go read the tweet and see. You must have done that to see the video on the tweet.


43 posted on 04/22/2016 12:32:55 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: unlearner

Here’s the video on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/M9s8dUn7E8I


44 posted on 04/22/2016 12:34:34 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: unlearner
I think Cruz should stay in and keep challenging Trump until the convention because Trump obviously will not stick to conservative principles out of ideology or because his supporters demand it of him.

Don't be silly, I've been told dozens of times Trump is the most conservative candidate running.../ S

Wait'... Trump has principles ?

45 posted on 04/22/2016 12:35:01 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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To: dynoman

You are not on Twitter. You are on Free Republic.

And you still are sidestepping the issue of the REASON you posted it.

You are just spreading more lies about Cruz to advance a personal agenda.


46 posted on 04/22/2016 12:40:05 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: dynoman

Same video. Same lack of substance. Just like EVERY Cruz attack I’ve followed up on in this forum.

Just happens to be against the most conservative candidate who ran for president this season.

Just happens to be against the one Planned Parenthood and the radical left hates more than any other politician.

Does not matter if any are actually true. It is the seriousness of the accusation that matters. Wonder where this mindset came from.


47 posted on 04/22/2016 12:42:39 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

I posted the tweet because thought it was interesting. No more no less. I’ve posted a LOT of tweets and you are the only one who’s had a problem with it.


48 posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:03 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Popman

It’s the Pelosi approach to politics. We must first vote for Trump to find out what Trump stands for.

I’m prepared to vote for Trump in the fall if he gets the nomination, because I think he will do less damage that Hillary. And he could even turn out to be a great president. But the evidence has not encouraged me so far.

He seems to be dying to move left as soon as he can. And he has reserved his worst vitriol for the most conservative candidates. Except he did address the elephant in the room: that Hillary should be heading to prison, not the white house.

Mostly, I’m disappointed in the conservatives on this forum not demanding more and settling for less. Seems like Stockholm syndrome from seven and a half long years of non-stop bad news because of this administration.


49 posted on 04/22/2016 12:48:56 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: dynoman

“you are the only one who’s had a problem with it”

More like I’m the only one to take the time to expose your fraudulent agenda.

So next time you post a nutty, conspiracy-laden post, retweet, or news article, you may want to label it such. Because you are not fooling anyone. I am not the “only one” who sees through your dishonesty.


50 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:54 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

I posted a tweet written by someone else. This is NOT about me. Yet you want to make it about me. Why? I know why. Give it up.

If you know so much why would Ted be handing over cash?? I don’t know why, so I asked you. Give me your honest answer.


51 posted on 04/22/2016 12:58:05 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: unlearner
Mostly, I’m disappointed in the conservatives on this forum not demanding more and settling for less. Seems like Stockholm syndrome from seven and a half long years of non-stop bad news because of this administration.

I get the Trump support. He pushes the buttons on a lot of hot important issues, which is a good thing...I plan on voting for him in the general to beat Hillary..

What disturbs me more than anything, is the way his supporters on this forum have projected his temperament that it's perfectly OK to mock, demonize, belittle, smear, libel mostly fine and decent candidates, many who they would support if Trump was not running...

Because of anonymous screen names they have taken it to a very ugly place...

I've been around this place since 1998 and I have never seen such vitriol and disgusting rhetoric posted here...

This place was never like that in the beginning...sure we pushed and shoved IDEAS against each other, but it never got this personal and demeaning...

I call it the "Trump Effect"

Also, this idea that Trump will destroy the GOPe is truly stupid, if you think it though just a little bit...

Trump will need the GOPe to govern, it's not like the majority party of the House is simply going to stop functioning because Trump was elected...

If anything he will cozy right on up to them...libtards included...

I better get my flame suit on...I besmirched, just to some, their golden haired demi-god...

52 posted on 04/22/2016 1:17:53 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone.)
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To: dynoman

“If you know so much why would Ted be handing over cash?? I don’t know why, so I asked you. Give me your honest answer.”

The point is, the tweet, the link, the video, the comments are all designed to insult and malign Cruz like the million other unfounded, unsubstantiated accusations that have been hurled at him for months on a conservative forum.

The video is of Cruz handing someone what appear to be a piece of paper and some money. Also in frame were people holding cameras and a book by Cruz which looked as if the holder was wanting his autograph.

I have no idea why Cruz might hand someone cash. Maybe he was handing back a donation and telling him he should donate online. Maybe it was a staffer getting his lunch. Maybe he lost a bet. Maybe he owed the guy money.

We do not even know who the person was to whom he gave the money.

This is only a conspiracy and only newsworthy to CRAZY people. By posting it as if it was somehow cogent or relevant puts you squarely in that category.

Do you really honestly think a Harvard lawyer who argued cases before the Supreme Court, who knows his every move is being scrutinized, just openly committed a felony? If you are convinced Cruz is crooked, surely you think he is at least a more competent crook than that.

Posting this nonsense makes Trump supporters look nutty. Why do you insist on defending it?


53 posted on 04/22/2016 1:30:47 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

I’m NOT defending it. I posted a tweet and later asked a question. And you are accusing and attacking me personally. It’s beyond weird.


54 posted on 04/22/2016 1:32:57 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Popman

I think we share very similar sentiments.


55 posted on 04/22/2016 1:33:01 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: dynoman

I gave my response to your question about what the video shows.

How about you answer your own question now.


56 posted on 04/22/2016 1:34:40 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

I’ve already said I don’t know why Ted would be handing cash over to someone else.


57 posted on 04/22/2016 1:39:45 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

How coy. Am I unreasonable to assume you realize that most Americans conduct at least some of their financial transactions in cash? And that Cruz almost certainly uses cash from time to time?

So, why is it newsworthy, tweet-worthy, cogent, or relevant to ANYONE on this forum?

You re-post a malicious lie and claim innocence, but EVERYONE sees through this. You are not fooling anyone.

How about if we post a few links of unsubstantiated claims that dynoman kidnaps, rapes, and murders little children. And as evidence we post a video of you, or any random male since we don’t have your photo, walking past a playground with children. Is that okay if I tweet that and post links to your Free Republic profile?

Does that sound reasonable and fair to you?

If I claimed I was just reposting what someone else thinks or says, would that make it okay with you?


58 posted on 04/22/2016 1:56:07 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

“You, you, you, you” LOLOL!! It’s NOT about me. Give it up.


59 posted on 04/22/2016 1:59:47 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: unlearner

I’ve seen that video posted at least six times on FR today.


60 posted on 04/22/2016 2:00:16 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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