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Beans And Rice For Passover? A Divisive Question Gets The Rabbis' OK
NPR ^ | April 23, 2016 | Maria Godoy

Posted on 04/23/2016 9:29:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

As a Latina who married into a Jewish family, I've long lobbied my in-laws to include beans and rice on the Passover menu. The holiday is a time when Jews avoid leavened foods in commemoration of their biblical exodus from Egypt — when they had to flee so fast, they couldn't even let the bread rise.

But beans and rice aren't leavened, I've argued, so why not include them in the Seder meal? The answer I've long gotten from my mother-in-law: tradition.

You see, like many American Jews, my mother-in-law is of European ancestry, or Ashkenazi. And by tradition, Ashkenazi Jews don't eat legumes, rice, seeds and corn on Passover.

As Rabbi Amy Levin tells NPR's Scott Simon, the custom banning my beloved rice and beans — as well as foods like lentils, edamame and popcorn — dates back to the 13th century. She says "it has been controversial right from the start ... simply because the custom prohibits foods that are, according to Torah law (which is like, the Jewish Constitution) permitted to be eaten."

And custom is a powerful force at the Passover table. The ritual foods eaten during the Seder — like bitter herbs, which serve to recall the hard times Jews endured as slaves in ancient Egypt — are edible reminders of Jewish history and identity.

But this year, as I lobby my mother-in-law yet again, I've got rabbis in my corner. Last December, the Rabbinical Assembly — an international group of rabbis within the Conservative denomination of Judaism — ruled that it is in fact OK to add rice, beans and corn and other so-called kitniyot to the Passover table. For Ashkenazic Jews, it's the first time in eight centuries that these foods are welcome during the holiday.

Sephardic Jews, whose roots trace back to the Iberian Peninsula, North Africa and the Middle East, have long considered these foods kosher for Passover. (Which makes sense, given that chickpeas and other legumes feature prominently in the Israeli diet.)

In fact, Levin, who co-wrote the opinion, says that America's Jewish community actually began as a Sephardic community in the 17th and 18th century.

"But by the 19th century and 20th century, with huge waves of immigration from Europe, the American Jewish community became a heavily Ashkenazi Jewish community," she says.

That has been changing in the past 15 to 20 years, she says. During that time, "a lot of Jews from Israel of Sephardic background — the part of the Jewish world that has eaten rice and beans and corn for Passover and lentils all along — have come to settle in the States. And so the question has come up as to whether it's appropriate to maintain these separate customs.

"I've always had at least one or two couples that are — we call them Ashkephards — meaning that one person is from an Ashkenazi background, and one person is from a Sephardic background," Levin says. "And then they're sitting at the Seder table, looking at each other, like, 'Are we eating the rice or aren't we eating the rice?' "

Armed with the rabbis' new ruling, I once again broached the subject with my mother-in-law just before this year's Seder. Her answer surprised me: "Sure, why not?"

How is this night different from any other night indeed!


TOPICS: Food; Religion
KEYWORDS: food; jewish; passover
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To: nickcarraway

What are bitter herbs, anyway? They sound...well...bitter!


21 posted on 04/23/2016 10:27:22 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: nickcarraway

Keep yer pants on Cha-Cha... Cinco de Mayo is coming.


22 posted on 04/23/2016 10:30:07 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: DesertRhino

Only solution for that kinda gas is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).


23 posted on 04/24/2016 2:28:53 AM PDT by odds
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To: JoeDetweiler

Well, they remind us of the bitterness of slavery in Egypt.
(Horse radish and parsley work for the table.


24 posted on 04/24/2016 4:14:25 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: nickcarraway

If its about destroying any tradition, NPR is right on board (unless its a politically correct ie victim group tradition).


25 posted on 04/24/2016 4:36:28 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: KC_for_Freedom
the bitterness of slavery in Egypt. (Horse radish and parsley work

They got nothing on the Russians for bitterness. In my grandmother's Easter basket there was a portion of horse radish that could melt your eyes!
And when I asked to include a butter sculpture of a little lamb, she practically cast me out for a heretic. Don't mess with tradition!

26 posted on 04/24/2016 5:02:34 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( It Can't Happen Here -- Sinclair Lewis.)
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To: DesertRhino

“But this year, as I lobby my mother-in-law yet again, I’ve got rabbis in my corner.”

So...pushy “wise Latina” wants her way or the highway.

I like rice & beans too, but it’s not some sacred ethnic pride fetish.

I like fried chicken, blackeyed peas, collards & watermelon. Does that make me black?

If I stand inside my garage long enough, will I become a car?


27 posted on 04/24/2016 6:23:27 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: nickcarraway

Why marry into another culture and try to change it? Apparently you want your cake and eat it too? Family traditions are important. Eat beans and rice on Cinco de Mayo and be happy.


28 posted on 04/24/2016 6:36:37 AM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: nickcarraway

Beans and rice aren’t the only things that just got the OK as kosher for Passover: http://wkrn.com/2016/04/24/top-rabbi-says-medical-marijuana-is-kosher-for-passover/


29 posted on 04/24/2016 7:26:33 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: nickcarraway

Rabbi Amy?

I think I see the first problem right there...


30 posted on 04/24/2016 7:35:29 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Piranha

He has a great tag line...as long as it does not involve my wife telling me dinner will be late. I definitely don’t like to hear that.


31 posted on 04/24/2016 8:41:06 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: nickcarraway

“Pass over that plate of tacos, please.”


32 posted on 04/24/2016 8:47:11 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: map

But, is a nothing burger Kosher?


33 posted on 04/24/2016 8:50:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

You have just given NPR an idea for their next profound story.


34 posted on 04/24/2016 10:36:59 AM PDT by map
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To: Cottonpatch
Rice and beans for Passover have always been allowed by Sephardic Jews. Making extra dietary prohibitions that burden the Jewish people is what she argues against.
35 posted on 04/24/2016 10:46:25 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Historically in the west, rice and beans were made into flour, leading to confusion. It has never been more than a minhag (’custom’).

This story concerns the Conservative Movement, whose regard for kashrut is a joke anyway.


36 posted on 04/24/2016 10:57:53 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nickcarraway
It's long been held that Sephardic Jews---those with North African or Spanish/Portugese heritage---may eat rice and beans ("kitnyos") during Passover. Ashkenazic Jews may not eat these foods during Passover. Upon marriage, women assume the customs of their husband, so if a Sephardic woman married an Ashkenazic Jew, she would not be eating kitnyos during Passover. Since it seems that this woman is not even a Jew and that this is an intermarriage, what is the point of this article?
37 posted on 04/24/2016 7:25:47 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: DesertRhino

You’re quite a guy aren’t you?

A Jewish death by gas joke on Pesach and Shabbat.

You must be very proud.


38 posted on 04/25/2016 10:51:57 AM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: EinNYC

The point of the article is pushy Mexicans.


39 posted on 04/25/2016 11:17:19 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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