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Super PACs for Cruz spend millions to sway/bribe/poach delegates from Trump
RNC Meeting Spring News 2016 and super PAC research | April 24, 2016 | Self - RNC spring convention observation

Posted on 04/24/2016 11:47:35 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: Karl Spooner

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3422007/posts

Karl, A Colorado state senator sponsored a bill to hold a Colorado Primary Election 2016. Then he and 3 other Colorado (R) senators killed the bill. (For what price did they change their minds?)

All four CO state senators are members of the Cruz Campaign leadership committee. 2 are Cruz delegates. Plus they are Romney retread delegates from 2012.


121 posted on 04/24/2016 3:18:29 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Nita Nupress

I think after next Tuesday Ted Cruz is pretty much done. His poll numbers are tanking now. Wait til he loses 5 primaries in one day.


122 posted on 04/24/2016 3:37:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: gg188
Where ARE the FR cruzers? The last two days their numbers have dropped off precipitously. Even hard to find. Threads that once would have been polluted like a river outside a nuke plant are nowhere to be seen.

Jim did some serious housecleaning yesterday.

Long overdue, but he took out a lot of trashy Cruz employees.

It's like a breath of fresh air.

Word is getting around that the Cruzers nonsense will no longer be tolerated.

I have waited since January 2015 for these days, they have been the most mean spirited turds for the last year and a quarter.

Even when their guy was ahead a year ago they behaved like ass holes.

123 posted on 04/24/2016 3:40:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
I object to your attitude.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against Trump. He has sparked the entire campaign and motivated citizens in a way that the republicans have never been able to do. I wish he was a constitutional conservative.

But he's not. If you look at his background he is Romney-lite.

A compromise placeholder who will not roll back years of Marxist advances. We are just marking time with him. Maybe that is the best we can do.

124 posted on 04/24/2016 3:44:13 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The republican party is the voters, not the politicians.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I wondered where the cruzy crazies had gone. :-)


125 posted on 04/24/2016 3:44:49 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

It matters not who you support:

1) Is it ethical to entice delegates with cash or non-cash luxury bribes?

2) Quit making false accusations. These are your words, not mine: “claiming that you actually witnessed bribery.” Where?

Chin, Do you envision super PAC staffers combing the halls of the RNC convention with briefcases stuffed with cash and spies hiding behind plants to film the action?

Bruce Campbell’s Chin: Cruz is so deep in the sewer, he will never get out. Cruz will always be beholden to these handlers. He couldn’t get out now even if he wanted to because he is stuck in quicksand. So sorry, it’s a quagmire.


126 posted on 04/24/2016 3:45:17 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Perhaps you should report facts and not your opinions. Otherwise, without backup it is just noise. That is why Trump hired Manafort to do the same thing because Trump thought all he hadoes to was just shout and call people 4th grade names. 2 Timothy 4:3 !


127 posted on 04/24/2016 3:52:00 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They are still a few crazies left, testing the fences to see if they can get by without a zot.

That’s OK, the most of the bad ones seem to be gone.


128 posted on 04/24/2016 3:54:22 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Good let’s just hope Cruz will be gone soon.


129 posted on 04/24/2016 4:00:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: oldbrowser

Yes, but I think Trump is a quick learner and he will grow in his understanding of the Constitution and conservative ideals. We are very far gone as a nation. But we must have faith that he will accomplish much within the short timeframe. Otherwise we keep advancing toward the cliff.

Trump is imperfect, but he is the right man at the right time. Unlike the rest, he has a dynamic personality that will motivate voters to support him and turn-out new voters. His winning attitude is contagious and inspiring. Trump is a class of his own and not comparable to any of the rest or past nominees.

Conservative voters have cost us elections by not voting. They gave us Carter, Clinton & Obama. All have accelerated American decline. Not voting is a vote for a Carter, Gore, Kerry, Obama, or a Clinton.

If the only thing Trump’s able to accomplish is a secure border and freeze on the M.E. invasion then we can stay a float a little while longer. Trump already declared that he will choose from a list of pre-approved conservative judges for SCOTUS. Sessions will help prepare the list. I fail to see the downside of surviving as a nation for 4-8 more years.


130 posted on 04/24/2016 4:30:55 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: richardtavor

Where is the false statement?

Name one untruth from the post.

There are none, research the PACs yourself.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politics/donald-trump-jr-ted-cruz-bribery/index.html

According to the Federal Election Commission delegate bribing is uncharted territory. As a rule, desperate presidential candidates swimming in uncharted waters may be willing to take some chances, especially if vague and untested laws create opportunities.

These may not be literal cash bribes (or they may). But if a super PAC is buying plane tickets, renting luxury hotel suites, stretch limos, dancing girls for parties, booze, tickets for concerts and entertainment, 5-star dinners, more booze, masseuse, wardrobes, salon expenses, etc.

Richardtavor, whether legal or illegal, are the above mentioned items or services bribes?


131 posted on 04/24/2016 4:38:57 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; oldbrowser

As Trump frequently says at his rallies, “I am working for you. YOU are my boss”.


132 posted on 04/24/2016 4:45:53 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; richardtavor

Both you guys, Quit calling me a liar. Bribing of delegates by the Cruz PAC is known to the campaign. Trump is calling out Cruz, directly by name, rather than his surrogates:

Here’s a clip from an article at The Hill just published.

“But during the rally, Trump slammed the primary system, calling it unfair. (Hagertown, MD)

He criticized rival Ted Cruz for “bribing” delegates.

“He’s bribing people essentially to vote,” he said.

“Now he can’t do it on the first ballot, because they’re locked into me on the first ballot,” he said. “That’s all I care about. I only care about the first.”

And there you have it.
I rest my case.


133 posted on 04/24/2016 4:54:26 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Trump is playing to win at contested GOP convention

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-is-playing-to-win-at-contested-gop-convention/article/2586317

David M. Drucker • 3/20/16 10:49 AM

Donald Trump is preparing to win a contested convention, fielding a team of veteran Republican operatives to woo delegates and influence the process.

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Party rules governing the nomination process, many of which will won’t be finalized until the convention rules committee meets just prior to the convention itself, mandate that most convention delegates vote for the candidate that won the primary or caucus in the state they represent, on the first ballot on the convention floor. If the winner does not receive 1,237 votes, most delegates are free to vote for whichever candidate they choose on subsequent ballots.

That’s why Trump, and presumably the Cruz and Kasich campaigns, is focused on the ongoing delegate elections in the states, and devoting resources toward trying to elect delegates that would be loyal to him through several ballots. It’s possible that more than 200 delegates could arrive in Cleveland uncommitted, even on the first ballot, and Brookover said that securing their support is a top priority.

The Trump campaign’s approach to wooing unaligned delegates is multifold. It could take the form of peer-to-peer contact in the states, calls from senior Trump campaign staff, or even direct communication from the candidate, a real estate mogul and reality television star. The lobbying is expected to be intense, and regulations that govern the process are vague and could vary from state to state.

For instance, it might be permissible for Trump, a billionaire who flies around on his own 757 airplane, to use his wealth in some fashion to shower attention on delegates whose support he wants. In interviews with a few unbound delegates, two confirmed to the Examiner that they have already received calls from at least one of the remaining three candidates in the GOP race.

“I hear from all the campaigns but I can’t disclose details of private conversations,” said John Yob, a longtime Republican consultant from Michigan who is now an uncommitted delegate representing the U.S. Virgin Islands, where he moved last year.


134 posted on 04/24/2016 4:56:52 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Kit cat

Hey, Kit - I think a huge portion of former Cruz supporters dumped him for Trump back when he blamed Trump for the rioting in Chicago. Americans can disagree on many things, but for a GOP candidate to NOT stand up for free speech, there’s a huge problem. I’ve always hated Cruz, but him standing with Soros, #BLM, etc., seemed to be a turning point in his pathetic, sleazy career.


135 posted on 04/24/2016 4:57:28 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Marino Talks Trump Efforts in Pennsylvania

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/433998/marino-talks-trump-efforts-pennsylvania

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/433998/marino-talks-trump-efforts-pennsylvania

Sarah Palin To Woo Delegates For Donald Trump In Wyoming

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/13/sarah-palin-woo-delegates-donald-trump-wyoming/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3420449/posts?page=118


136 posted on 04/24/2016 4:57:52 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Congressman Duncan Hunter (Ca-52) was the first to endorse Donald Trump.”

I think Hunter would make a fine VP.


137 posted on 04/24/2016 4:58:25 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Abby4116

In an interview, Cruz himself mentioned the delegates he gained in those “elections”. He actually used the word, “elections”. There were no elections.


138 posted on 04/24/2016 5:00:52 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I’m going to our state convention as a delegate. Nobody has offered to bribe me yet. Heck - I’m out my own money just to attend!

Now - it would be legal to accept donations to cover the expenses. I forget who can dole those out. I suppose there may be a few folks that would switch sides based on a large “donation”, but I imagine most folks that will be going to the National Convention have some name recognition in their communities (political types, radio personalities, business people, etc.) and don’t want to be remembered as a traitor and a crook because of a bribe.

Now - that is not to say that all the delegates that change their mind are crooks. If it comes down to a contested election, people WILL have to change their minds. Or it will be 1200, 800, 400 for all 368+ ballots. (Hmm - maybe go to one of those shared governments like Iceland or where ever.)


139 posted on 04/24/2016 5:02:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
I fail to see the downside of surviving as a nation for 4-8 more years.

I see your points and I agree with them. First we must survive. But the constitution and the rule of law must also survive. Otherwise it will be for nothing.

140 posted on 04/24/2016 5:02:48 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The republican party is the voters, not the politicians.)
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