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Roger Goodell and the NFL is trying to ruin the careers of four more players
SB Nation ^ | Aug 16, 2016 | Rich Hill

Posted on 08/16/2016 9:03:32 AM PDT by detective

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To: deadrock

Brady’s missing phone:Hillary’s missing e-mails::Patriots fans:Democrats


61 posted on 08/16/2016 10:26:44 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

I wouldn’t go that far. There are irrational conservative fanatics as well.


62 posted on 08/16/2016 10:32:23 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: kosciusko51

Gee. I would think that someone as astute as you might see the difference between personal property that a company has no right to, and a cobbled together email server manufactured specifically to circumvent lawful access to the information being processed by it.

Your analogy would be more accurately written:

Brady’s missing phone:Hillary’s missing e-mails::kosciusko51&LikeMindedPeople:Democrats


63 posted on 08/16/2016 10:37:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

LOL. You proved my point.

A smart Pats fan would have said there was no similarity the first statement, therefore, there is no similarity to the second statement.


64 posted on 08/16/2016 10:40:48 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Maverick68
EVERYBODY cheats.

Those who are caught are punished. The punishment may result in fewer "everybodies" taking the risk.

65 posted on 08/16/2016 10:43:43 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: JimRed

And those that are caught destroying evidence are punished. The punishment may result in fewer “everybodies” destroying evidence.


66 posted on 08/16/2016 10:50:29 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: kosciusko51

My statement was more accurate than the faulty one you constructed.


67 posted on 08/16/2016 11:06:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Vermont Lt
Actually, I put my money where my mouth as a long time Denver Bronco season ticket holder.
A few years back Josh McDaniels was the head coach of the Broncos. His tenure with a win record of .393 lasted not quite two seasons when he was fired. The Bronco organization lost confidence in him, as did his players, after the taping incident in the London game came to light.
So Belechick rehires McDaniels as his QB coach ... McDaniels managed to stay below the radar on the 'deflategate' episode ... but know full well he was in on it ... no question.
68 posted on 08/16/2016 11:08:23 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: rlmorel

Let me see if I understand you. You believe that there is no similarity between Brady’s phone and Hillary’s, therefore,

“Brady’s missing phone:Hillary’s missing e-mails::kosciusko51&LikeMindedPeople:Democrats”

means there is no similarity between me (and likeminded people) and the Democrats.

If that is the case, I agree with you.


69 posted on 08/16/2016 11:13:54 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Lakeshark

“If you were married to the world’s most famous super model, would you turn over you phone to an organization that has leaked private information before?”

I thought what you said at the time - and I’m a girl. Texts from/to Gisele would have found their way to TMZ, National Enquirer, even the alphabet networks by the next news cycle.

And since we’re on the subject again, why over the many years of Brady’s career didn’t one officiating team somewhere, sometime ever notice how really ‘off’ the game balls were in the Patriot’s games ... if they were? Surely they handle the balls, actually used in the games, even more than equipment managers and other staff. Thought that at the time.

Yet here we still are because, apparently, you can always count on the envy and jealousy that many ‘fans’ have for a good looking, VERY successful NFL QB married to “the world’s most famous super model”. Works every time cuz haters gotta hate. And I am NOT a Patriots fan.


70 posted on 08/16/2016 11:22:32 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: kosciusko51

No, you don’t have it right.

It is a standard “A is to B as C is to D” statement.

You don’t support Brady’s right to privacy (Brady’s missing phone) in the same way Democrats support Hillary’s right to have her own email server.

They are both wrong.


71 posted on 08/16/2016 11:24:41 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: discostu

I have a feeling this is Deebo’s last year and in saying that, he would probably tell Goodell where the sun don’t shine.


72 posted on 08/16/2016 11:24:47 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Let's Roll

I get you 100%. The texts between my wife and myself have often been pretty, um, er.........racy. not what they call sexting either
We enjoy the humor.

She’s beautiful, and I have a few great pics not for public attention.

It’s all good marital fun, and no one else’s business.

I doubt I’m in the minority of strong marriages either.

You are spot on.


73 posted on 08/16/2016 11:35:48 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: Let's Roll

The NFL not only “leaked” information, but openly and KNOWINGLY lied.

But there are many on here who are fine with that, because, hey, principles are only for talking.

They would raise holy Hell (and often do) about the government doing this or that to obtain by coercion or other methods, private information to use AGAINST that person, but have no problem at all when it is someone rich or famous.

They have this perverted double standard that they aren’t entitled to the same protections we have (or should have)


74 posted on 08/16/2016 11:49:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel
You don’t support Brady’s right to privacy (Brady’s missing phone) in the same way Democrats support Hillary’s right to have her own email server

I'm sorry, you are trying to mind read me. That's not what I wrote, and that's not what I meant. What I mean is that that Brady's missing phone affects Patriots' fans the way Hillary's missing e-mails affect Democrats. No more and no less.

I really don't care what the league does with Brady. If he violated the collective bargaining agreement by destroying the phone, he is guilty. If not, then not.

75 posted on 08/16/2016 11:55:07 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

There is nothing in the collective bargaining agreement about handing over personal non-work related confidential material.

That is what the crux of this manufactured vendetta boiled down to.


76 posted on 08/16/2016 11:59:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

Not having read the CBA, I’ll have to take you word for it, with the same grain of salt that I use for the head of the DOJ, FBI, and the NFL.


77 posted on 08/16/2016 12:01:55 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: hsmomx3

He’s been telling off Goodell a lot, almost every rule change on tackling was met with derision by him. But he’s finally learned subtlety. Technically speaking none of what he said could be construed as failure to cooperate, even though it’s saturated with disrespect.


78 posted on 08/16/2016 12:09:19 PM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: kosciusko51

A grain of salt is not in and of itself a bad thing.

The NFL did not punish Brady for destroying his cell phone. They could not do that, and they knew they couldn’t because it was not a company phone, it was his personal property.

What they punished him for was “Failure to cooperate”, a very convenient, catch-all similar to “Treason” used by the British Crown in the 18th century, and the Interstate Commerce Clause in the COnstitution, used by liberals to mean anything they want it to mean, and Article 58 of the Soviet Penal Code, which was used to facilitate getting anyone into the Gulags they thought should be there.

A very nice, highly subjective “crime” that can be used as a Swiss Army Knife by unscrupulous people, of which the NFL is led by, and rife with.


79 posted on 08/16/2016 12:13:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: discostu

I think he figures he has nothing to lose by speaking out.


80 posted on 08/16/2016 12:31:43 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (TRUMP 2016)
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