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People of Mexico, where have you gone?
Mexico National Statistics Institute ^ | 9/1/2016 | Self

Posted on 09/01/2016 7:52:29 AM PDT by Riflema

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I was sitting here wondering if anyone had bothered to run these numbers, so did it myself. Sometimes official statistics reveal things you'd rather left unspoken.
1 posted on 09/01/2016 7:52:29 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: Riflema

Sort of like those Philadelphia precinct totals from the 2012 presidential election . . . compare them with an election or two before and they are statistically impossible, but somehow they are still accepted as official.


2 posted on 09/01/2016 8:00:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Great job! Excellent FR sleuthing.

Screen capture all you can in case this goes viral and the governments shut it all down to keep people like you from getting further with it.


3 posted on 09/01/2016 8:00:48 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Riflema

Where indeed?


4 posted on 09/01/2016 8:04:33 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (*Convicted of thought crimes by the Left and the Right*)
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To: Riflema
Interesting - some things just don't make sense.
Let's assume all is true.

1990 shows no difference between calculated and actual.
Is that possible ?

I am also assuming that the missing are cumulative - the missing for 1995 are still missing today.
1995 had approx 2 million difference.
2005 had approx 12 million difference.
2010 had approx 12 million difference - is that possible ?

5 posted on 09/01/2016 8:11:08 AM PDT by stylin19a
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Awesome job. I would base it from 86 when the last blanket amnesty was granted. I would also run the numbers for the rest of Central America.

Once done I would send it to Trump. I suspect there are as many as 50 million illegals.


6 posted on 09/01/2016 8:23:33 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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Where have you gone, folks of Mexico?
A nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you
Woo woo woo

What’s that you say, Mrs. Rodriguez?
Pedro has gone north with Old Jose
Hey hey hey?
Hey hey hey


7 posted on 09/01/2016 8:24:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: stylin19a

It would be better based on 86, the date of the last blanket amnesty. That would truly be the no diff between calculated and actual basis.


8 posted on 09/01/2016 8:25:55 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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The big bump occurred, not due to 86 amnesty, but due to Clinton Treas Sec Rubin destroying the Mexican economy (for their own good) in the 90s. Rubin forced the Maquiladoras to flee Mexico for Asia. Those unemployed then looked for jobs where they could find them... here. When the fled there were no longer customers for the retail sector... So the retail employees...and business owners also came here.


9 posted on 09/01/2016 8:34:03 AM PDT by spintreebob
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Those stats neglect the children born here to illegal parents. I don’t consider them to be citizens, either.


10 posted on 09/01/2016 8:35:27 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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I would assume that you took 1990 as a base year and based your calculations off the assumption that the census population was the zero-illegal one. Given that, you may be underestimating the total as your calculation accounts only for illegals emigrating after 1990. Of course there are no reliable numbers for death rates of illegals in the US. Deaths would reduce the total number, while births would not increase the total since birthright citizenship makes those children born here US citizens, and hence not illegals (Just stating fact here, not expressing approval)


11 posted on 09/01/2016 8:37:18 AM PDT by stremba
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The CIA Factbook has a lot of demographic data but it is data only from the current year or last year calculated.

The website Index Mundi started in 2000 and they accumulate data from the CIA Factbook.

Other good sources are the World Bank and the UN.

Another good source is Wikipedia. the problem there is how you search. You can use the Wikipedia search function or search Wikipedia using a Google search, such as: "Wikipedia Mexico immigration rate"

12 posted on 09/01/2016 9:46:27 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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Where have all the Mexicans gone, long time passing?
Where have all the Mexicans gone, long time ago?
Where have all the Mexicans gone?
Fled to America everyone.
Oh, when will they ever return?
Oh, when will they ever return?
13 posted on 09/01/2016 10:48:51 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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I don’t think the start date of your analysis matters to 1986 or 1990. I would want to run the data by someone who deals in Mexican demographics. I wonder how the entity that produced this data handles non documenteds leaving the country.

Interesting that Mexico has 2.5 million births compared to USA 3.9 million births. Also note that the # of births is declining like it is in the USA.


14 posted on 09/01/2016 11:20:57 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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Quite a few years ago I remember reading that of all living Mexicans who were born in Mexico, one in seven were in the United States.


15 posted on 09/01/2016 11:36:51 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Yep, I went with 1990 as the nearest year which the had numbers for. Given what happened in 86, I’d be shocked if a bunch of our neighbors didn’t jump the fence between 86 and 90, so, yes, I’m understating it.


16 posted on 09/01/2016 1:23:45 PM PDT by Riflema
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I heard a second rationale: NAFTA allowed our farm products to go there very much cheaper and made their small backward family farms unviable. Thus the peasants looked for other stuff to do.


17 posted on 09/01/2016 1:25:36 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Steven Scharf

I just went with 1990 as the baseline as it was shortly after the amnesty and was the earliest data they had an overall population for. And yes, the birthrate was phenomenal.


18 posted on 09/01/2016 1:27:01 PM PDT by Riflema
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clinton’s nafta also destroyed mexican farmer who couldn’t compete with US grain producers.


19 posted on 09/01/2016 4:38:38 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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You’re right. But the Mexican land ownership system is so lousy that it is more to blame than NAFTA.

Also we send increased corn/wheat to Mexico. They send increased fresh fruit and vegetables to us.


20 posted on 09/02/2016 3:34:19 AM PDT by spintreebob
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