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Google Home, Amazon Echo Mix Convenience with Creepiness
toptechnews ^ | 11/15/2016 | Troy Wolverton.

Posted on 11/19/2016 6:31:19 AM PST by BenLurkin

Having a smart speaker like Amazon Echo or Google Home ... can ... feel creepy. And sometimes, really annoying.

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So, if you want to order an Uber through Echo, you have to link your Uber account to it via Amazon's Alexa smartphone app. If you want to use Home to order your Chromecast to start playing music on your stereo system, you have to set that up in the Google Home smartphone app.

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You can link Amazon's gadget...npopular ones like Google's Nest thermostats and Philip's Hue lightbulbs, but also more obscure devices like connected coffee pots, smart sprinkler controllers and smart meat thermometers.

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For some reason, Echo gave me restaurant recommendations based on my old work address, even though I linked it to my personal account and haven't worked in that office for two years. Changing my Echo address to my home address required a Web search, because I couldn't figure out on the Alexa app where to change that setting.

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Both devices work by listening for your voice at all times, something that just feels creepy. Both promise to only keep what you say immediately before and after your trigger word or phrase, but I worry about them listening in -- even innocently -- on my private conversations and moments.

When it comes to privacy, Google in particular hasn't always been upfront about its practices or even kept the promises it's made to consumers; it's been investigated by the FTC multiple times and had to pay a $22.5 million fine a few years ago. And both it and Amazon have an interest in collecting and keeping as much data as possible on their customers for marketing purposes. And both companies keep a record of all questions and requests users make through their smart speakers.

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1 posted on 11/19/2016 6:31:19 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin; shibumi
What could possibly go wrong? ping.


2 posted on 11/19/2016 6:37:25 AM PST by Salamander (The day is okay, and the sun can be fun, but I live to see those rays slip away...)
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To: Salamander

A picture is worth a thousand words.


3 posted on 11/19/2016 6:40:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BenLurkin
Boy would they ever get bored at my place:

"Sir, we've analyzed the audio. He's said, Open the Door 3000 times this month and Close the Door the same amount of times. What do you want me to do with this information?"

4 posted on 11/19/2016 6:47:12 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: BenLurkin

I sat down with my Kindle Fire last night to read a book only to find that “Alexa” had installed herself on it.
I already have stickers over the camera lenses but what do I do to prevent eavesdropping now?
Sheesh! It’s making me paranoid!


5 posted on 11/19/2016 6:49:39 AM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Salamander

Amazon and Google will be collecting an amazing database—of incredibly stupid people who don’t value their privacy.

If someone gave me one of those as a gift I would stomp on it until destroyed right in front of them.


6 posted on 11/19/2016 6:50:21 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: BenLurkin

We have echo dot in our home. We use it primarily for turning on the lights. The wife, who is admittedly more of a techie than I am, uses it to make shopping lists and other stuff. It’s also a jukebox with acccess to the Amazon music library...for example just say “Alexa, play ‘Saturday in the park’ by Chicago” and it immediately starts playing it.

This technology is going to be a game changer, IMHO


7 posted on 11/19/2016 6:54:27 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: UCANSEE2

Indeed.


8 posted on 11/19/2016 6:59:02 AM PST by Salamander (The day is okay, and the sun can be fun, but I live to see those rays slip away...)
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To: cgbg

You’re talking to someone who has disabled all the mics and cameras on her computers.

:D


9 posted on 11/19/2016 7:00:43 AM PST by Salamander (The day is okay, and the sun can be fun, but I live to see those rays slip away...)
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To: BenLurkin
I am sorry but these things creep me out.

Y'all get them if you like. I will stick with mechanical on locks, faucets and not connect my small electronics to the Internet.

The idea of someone being able to turn control the security cameras in my house from a remote location and then unlock my doors strikes me as unsafe.

10 posted on 11/19/2016 7:05:19 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: BenLurkin
My Amazon Fire game controller (with Alexa) doesn't have an ‘off’ button. Supposedly it turns off on it's own and will stay off.

Amazon should start selling ‘sound proof’ boxes to store “smart gizmos” in... they can listen in on each other... I'm waiting...

11 posted on 11/19/2016 7:24:55 AM PST by GOPJ (Trump took 40% of the Hispanics vote in FL and more than 30% of Hispanics nationally-LS)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I’m ok with remote monitoring of alarms and home status on a phone. Remote control of camera systems and locks is out of the question.


12 posted on 11/19/2016 7:31:32 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: cgbg

Or maybe they’re just not paranoid luddite fools. Really all the data is boring crap that’s available through other sources anyway. And it could save somebody’s life, I’ve seen a friend with diabetes mess up the sugar math and start sliding into the coma, if I wasn’t there what happens to them. Well they now have an echo.

Some folks just need to get over themselves. You really aren’t that interesting and nobody is actually hunting for your precious data.


13 posted on 11/19/2016 7:36:37 AM PST by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: discostu

This “Luddite” had a web page in the 1990s before it was cool.

Then there was Snowden, and I found out Google and F__book was feeding data to the NSA.

So pardon me if I am paranoid.

F___ the NSA and all the corporate spies.


14 posted on 11/19/2016 7:40:42 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: BenLurkin

What comes to mind is “The Lives of Others”.


15 posted on 11/19/2016 7:43:24 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")
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To: Salamander

When I come home my wife’s phone always says “Quick, out the window!”

RIP Rodney Dangerfield


16 posted on 11/19/2016 7:48:20 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Carly Simon is so vain, she thinks we think her insipid song is about us.)
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To: Salamander

What could go wrong?

Nothing.

Because I simply refuse to have any device with a camera in it online.
I refuse to link any of my accounts or tell them my phone number.
And I refuse to have a phone programmed to do anything but make phone calls.

(And yes - I have two laptops with cameras and mics.
I duct taped them.)


17 posted on 11/19/2016 8:28:19 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: BenLurkin
I bought the echo dot ($49) and a cheap bluetooth speaker as a surprise for my non-techie wife because we have no decent stereo and she was streaming pandora through our crummy TV, I thought she'd like it for the music streaming we already get included with Amazon Prime. I was right, she loves the thing and uses it for weather reports, shopping lists, setting all kinds of timers, and the music. My 83 year old mom saw it and wanted one too so I bought her one and set her up with Amazon's $3.99/month equivalent to Spotify (but only works with a single echo, perfect for my mom) and she is in love with the thing. Now all her friends are chirping about wanting then too but they'll have to buy those themselves :-)

It's the future.

18 posted on 11/19/2016 8:30:49 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: GSWarrior
Why? Because these are too complicated?

At least these don't spy on you.

19 posted on 11/19/2016 8:30:56 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: GOPJ
Amazon should start selling ‘sound proof’ boxes to store “smart gizmos” in... they can listen in on each other... I'm waiting...

The echo has a mute button on it to turn off the microphone.

20 posted on 11/19/2016 8:32:20 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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