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Trump vows to provide ‘insurance for everybody’ in Republican health care replacement plan
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| 1/16/2017
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Posted on 01/16/2017 6:29:08 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: frnewsjunkie
Another thing about Trump is that he will do tort reform and cut down on fraud. Whoohoo! Lots of money to be saved in both areas.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:02:52 AM PST
by
sheikdetailfeather
(Trump is exposing the fifth column in the U.S.)
To: frnewsjunkie
I had some surgery back when.. The dr said it would cost $700 if the insurance paid for it. The cost would be $00 if the insurance did not pay for it.
Look at how it works... it depends on who they can get the money from... who is going to pay their costs.
To: sheikdetailfeather
Trump has a lot of good ideas from his successes in business. I think he has more up his sleeve in knowledge than we know.
So far, his 2 most available choices... the 2 we see the most... are the best choices ever!! Pence and KellyAnne! He did so well in these 2 picks.. we should expect him to do well in so many other things.
To: Rusty0604
I'd be okay with anyone who chose not to get catastrophic (or other for that matter) health insurance having a rule that if they decided to buy it later, coverage wouldn't be until two years after payments began. That would protect us all from the freeloaders who would wait until they're sick to sign up, then expect immediate coverage.
I'm not being a hypocrite here. I have Medicare Part A but opted out of everything else.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:09:43 AM PST
by
grania
To: originalbuckeye
That’s the insurance my family had for years. And in talking to my mom and others about it, people were very happy with it. She was in the front office, for a doctor for close to 30 years. Said things were very simple prior to the Clinton’s coming in with their revamp of things. Said that things just got progressively worse and worse.
My brother, retired NYPD, picked what he thought was the best(most expensive) plan when he retired. Was paying out the nose for it. Figured out that if he got a cheaper plan(more of the catastrophic coverage) and paid for doctors visits for his kids out of pocket, it was much cheaper. The doctors charged a different, cash rate, and everyone was happy. Hopefully, we can go back to something like that real soon.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:10:57 AM PST
by
qaz123
To: frnewsjunkie
We need to get back to the basic $20 doctors visit. It is now $120. $100 for crap like government regulatory compliance and insurance company processes.
Pharma costs are also high because of the same.
Take a medication such as Amoxicillin. Pharmacy retail cost is about $40. Most people pay $4 to $12, with insurance covering the rest. Wholesale cost is only $4.
Take new drug costs. Over $1 billion to perform FDA and other mandatory testing and proofs. $1 billion. That is insane! Best guess is $40 million at most, and that would drive costs to reasonable out of pocket costs instead of the thousands per month some drugs now cost.
One anti-cancer drug is $11,000/month in the US...but only $3,500 in India...and only $400 wholesale.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:16:44 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
To: mikelets456
We do not need insurance.
What we need is affordable health CARE
That can only happen with competition.
Monopolies cannot lower prices.
Now, what we had before were monopolies.
We don’t need that either.
To: Tax-chick
Only a system which combines private enterprise (including free-market insurance policies) and private charity has any potential.
The private charity side of that equation is disappearing. The Catholic Church for example used to run many charity hospitals. No more. Crushing expenses + pressure from Democrats to provide sterilization and abortions have them running for the tall grass.
To: CodeToad
We need to get back to the basic $20 doctors visit. It is now $120.
He probably clears $20 after paying office staff to submit the bill to insurance three or four times. Pay-as-you-go cash would be SO much better for all concerned.
To: CodeToad
My recollection is that some of this is the consequence of government efforts at wage controls or tax bracket creep. Companies pursued this idea of offering "other" compensation to get around these government created issues.
It's been awhile since I looked into this, but my recollection is that the government was the entity that started this "health insurance" ball rolling.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:26:55 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: mikelets456
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:27:06 AM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: grania
. Think back to O's primaries against hillary. He said his problem was different from hers because he wouldn't have a mandate.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who remembered that. Obama is amazing, he managed to show he is less honest than Mrs. Clinton.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:28:16 AM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: oh8eleven
a nickel tax on all crap food
Will likely only apply to venison jerky and Campbells' Vegetarian Scotch Broth after the lobbyists get done with it.
To: gloryblaze
You are absolutely correct, and your post number 74 should be shouted from the rooftop to explain why. But we are where we are right now. That is the starting point. I am the only person I know who questions costs from docs and staff and all I get is,"Well, you have insurance, don't you?" or eyes rolling and the look as if I have two heads. And everyone agrees. People marvel at the new facilities. Why not? They have insurance or medicaid. As you say, no skin. So in the meantime, bills have to be paid. Yes, the dominant paradigm is that everyone is going to pay their bills with insurance. *That* is what we need to break away from.
Perhaps we should demand health insurance accounts paid for out of the taxes they already pay, (no new taxes) and only catastrophic or very high deductible insurance permitted.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:30:32 AM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: OKSooner
So you won't be surprised if that's the plan?
It likely is. The ideal solution of "every man pay as you go" is not gonna happen in this environment.
To: DiogenesLamp
“Companies pursued this idea of offering “other” compensation to get around these government created issues.”
Yes, that was also part of it. Remember when JFK took office the high income tax bracket was 90%, but with all kinds of crazy deductions to reduce that amount.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:31:43 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
To: exnavy
Federal involvement in healthcare is extra constitutional.
Yup.
Trump is not a strict Constitutional constructionist, and never claimed to be. To that extent Mark Levin and the NeverTrumpers have a legitimate beef with him.
But he proved he could win. Their guys could not. Personally I am just gonna shut up and appreciate the fact that we really dodged the bullet with Hildebeast.
To: Buckeye McFrog
Doctors have to have someone do the daily government mandated paperwork. Some older Doctors have chosen to retire because of gov demands. plus the insurance they carry against law suits.... the extra things they have to do. takes from patient’s time.
To: grania
Yea, the libs were complaining that people had to file bankruptcy because of unexpected medical bills. Well, if they had enough to lose to even file for bankruptcy they should have had catastrophic insurance in the first place. In that case, don’t include medical bills in bankruptcy just like school loans.
To: Buckeye McFrog
It's a real product - who knew???
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:38:00 AM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
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