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Dad's rant about his relationship with ex-wife wins him praise for being a "real man"
The Mirror ^ | 02/20/2017 | NICOLA OAKLEY

Posted on 02/24/2017 12:44:23 PM PST by BJ1

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To: BJ1
You're wrong but I'm not going to argue with you.

I just think that the guy is setting a positive example as a person for his sons and ex and shouldn't take the negative approach that you suggest.

imho

101 posted on 02/24/2017 5:31:45 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: WilliamCooper1

Maybe not. His sons may find girls that are ladies and will want to be treated as such.....not some selfish little twit that thinks only of herself. Respect and caring goes both ways and that’s what Billy’s sons can take to a relationship and I hope they find women who feel the same way.


102 posted on 02/24/2017 7:17:31 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: BJ1

He sounds like a solid man who wants to help raise his kids right - do you have a personal story that makes you think all situations revolve around how you were affected? Not accusing, just saying I have an ex that made me proud to have resisted killing her sorry ass - that doesn’t mean there aren’t some better situations out there.


103 posted on 02/25/2017 3:01:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I would agree... its one thing to teach your kids to respect and love their mother, it’s another if the woman is a complete lunatic. fine line here...

Ive seen it with my own eyes too many times. A man, goes to work for 8/40 a week and then goes home and does house chores and takes care of kids while she screams from the couch.

if its a mutual separation then its one thing, but if she was the reason, then it is an injustice for the kids to grow up thinking what she did was acceptable. IMHO...


104 posted on 02/25/2017 3:20:10 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: Nifster

A biological man is a man. A bad man is a bad man, and a good man is a good man, and most are a mix of both, in various ways.


105 posted on 02/25/2017 3:33:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: BJ1

As long as he is clear with the boys that he’s doing it for them because they love their mom and he respects that love.


106 posted on 02/25/2017 8:49:08 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: BJ1

Conspicuously absent from the story is any mention of the ages of the kids. If they’re under 10 or so, I’m thinking this is a good thing. If they’re teens, they should be doing this themselves.


107 posted on 02/25/2017 8:59:25 AM PST by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Tax-chick

Don’t confuse being male with being a real man.


108 posted on 02/25/2017 9:29:26 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Tax-chick

A male is born that way. Men have to grow and learn. A real woman knows the difference


109 posted on 02/25/2017 9:30:32 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

That is philosophy rather than science. The disagreement on this thread regarding the characteristics of a “real man” demonstrates the concept’s lack of utility.


110 posted on 02/25/2017 12:06:20 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: trebb

>>>He sounds like a solid man who wants to help raise his kids right - do you have a personal story that makes you think all situations revolve around how you were affected?<<<

I got divorced against my will. Like the article states here, the woman did the leaving. I am not sure what you mean by “all situations revolve around how you were affected.” You have your family destroyed. In my case I kept custody of the kids, but the family unit was destroyed. The kids were damaged. Relationships you gained through marriage were largely lost for both me and the ex. That’s pretty universal.

Since I kept the kids, there was zero way I would have wanted my ex to show up in a reverse situation and have her cook a nice Father’s day meal and play nice nice with me and the kids. She’s their mom....she can see the kids on her own time. I hear about these amicable divorces and do not understand how it is. If you both the man and woman can remain friends, why did they get divorced in the first place? I am too simple minded to grasp that concept as I think such couples could and should have saved their marriage.


111 posted on 02/25/2017 2:25:04 PM PST by BJ1
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Sounds like our situations were similar except my wife got custody. I didn’t want the divorce but she decided marriage wasn’t for her - she fought hard for the kids and the NY courts let her have her way. She did her best to alienate them and really screwed them up. She was/is evil and no way we could conciliate - but I do know exes who are amicable. My situation wasn’t/couldn’t be that way, but there are many out there who can stay friendly and do a good job keeping both parents involved in the kids’ upbringing.


112 posted on 02/26/2017 3:05:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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