Posted on 03/08/2017 8:04:27 AM PST by BenLurkin
“There’s increasing evidence that adults with overweight may” hate the use of euphemisms like “with overweight” instead of “are fat”.
“She’s over 300 pounds at 5’2” and she’s 89. Dieting would kill her.”
God bless her.
I don’t like being fat or looking fat. When I weigh less I have more energy and am more comfortable.
But that said you know I don’t think it’s all that bad for you in the grand scheme of things.
I think yo yo dieting is worse for you, for example.
There will be lots of anti-fatty comments in this thread. I get it. We hate the excuses and the lack of personal responsibility of “the fat.”
But I am telling you the truth and FReepers may or may not accept it: some people who are fat really don’t eat a ton of food. And some thin people eat like horses. I’ve seen it.
I still remember the reed thin father of my daughter’s bestie. She’d sleep over sometimes. He’d come home with a dozen doughnuts and eat 8 of them. When my daughter expressed astonishment she was told he did this all the time. He operated a restaurant and ate lots of heavy, meaty, fatty, delicious foods (a really nice restaurant). Just as thin as a reed and full of energy.
He eats probaby 5 to 6 x what I do in a day and I am twice as heavy. It’s not because he has some superior self control.
Similarly I know some heavier women who eat probably somewhere between 1000 and 1300 calories a day. They should not be overweight but they are. And no they are not bingeing when I’m not around, I am sure at least not most of them, some of whom I’ve lived with.
It is a physical equation but I am telling the equation differs from person to person.
thank you for that....
“In short, to say fat people live as long as thin or normal weight people is a lie.”
I will disagree with this to a point because I believe appetite greatly decreases with age and by the time we are in our 70s and 80s we often have to be convinced to eat; and when we eat this or that we have this digestive issue or that one; people tend to lose weight once they hit the 60s, 70s, 80s.
In the very early 90’s I had a very cheap $10,000 deductible for my whole family. One day my daughter broke her arm. I took her to a very nice clinic in our neighborhood. They examined, set, applied the cast, etc.
Total cost: $275.
People need to start treating health care like auto care, home care/maintenance, etc. It simply should not be as expensive as it is.
As someone else said, if car insurance was like health insurance, it would cover oil changes. And they’d be $500.
I am woman, hear me roar; in sizes too big to ignore ...
The ship has sailed; in the iPhone age, we are not going to get kids out in the streets from dawn to dark any more. We have to schedule their sports for them and after school, they will be in front of a computer or a video game console.
“Mom’s cooking from scratch - not any more
Food from the garden or nearby farm - not like it used to.
Few options for processed foods loaded with fat, sugar and salt - now it’s everywhere and at all times
Kids with their bicycles, skate boards, dirty play clothes from being outside all today - ain’t happening anywhere now.”
This is a common idea but I don’t know if I buy it.
My mom in the 60s used all kinds of stuff like Hamburger Helper and boxed lasagna and tv dinners and Chun King “Chinese,” you know, she was not cooking from scratch usually. We lived in middle class suburbs. We mostly all ate the same stuff. We were slender kids.
We did play outside a lot.
Food from the garden or nearby farm? No. the local grocery store which had all sorts of crap just like now - cookies, soda, candy, all kinds of bakery items, ice cream, come on, it was just like now. White bread.
My husband used to deliver papers in the morning in the 50s and after his little route he’d stop and get full fat choc. milk and lemon pies. Then go home and have breakfast which I doubt was free range chicken and carrots! School lunch was the processed business that we are all familiar with.
So I really don’t think the quality of food is the problem, although the one change I do see is the “play outside” time.
Carbs trigger the fat storage hormones too. People need to eat more foods which do not trigger the release of insulin.
I finally stopped the constant dieting and started losing weight. I just don’t have the same appetite I used to have. I look fine and eat what I want. I just don’t eat that much anymore.
I have (most of us have at one time or another) been really sick. Ask any cancer patient, or anyone that has been close to death. The first thing that goes when you are not well is your appetite.
Being thin is NOT a sign of wellness by itself.
“Atkins is ....”
Atkins is BS, it’s dangerous, it doesn’t work long term, it is impossible to socialize or go out to dinner, etc.
If I want to know more about atkins, I’ll ask (in other words, take your dieting industry marketing hype, and go away).
I’m not sure what you disagree with. As people age, they should reduce their weight. In many cases it happens naturally. I see, families upset with their elders because, “They’re sooooooo skinny.” Fact is, their metabolism draws down. Then heart doesn’t work as hard.
True they may be weak, and they should take nutrients and supplements, and adhere to a good diet. Walking is good for them. Yoga too, if they can tolerate it.
But well meaning family members trying to stuff them with bad carbs.
I know too, that depression reduces the appetite, but my point was to counter the nonsense that fat people live longer.
Obesity in America is a travesty. I see people at work with their big gulp diet drinks. Sipping all day. They don’t gain, they don’t lose. Their glycogen storage is never depleted so they NEVER burn up fat.
So all the bad gene pools are in America?
Why is then, that you can take people from other countries, Japan for example. Put them on an American diet, and they die from the same things Americans do, and they display obesity also.
Why is it also that different parts of our country tend to have healthier people? Sure many go there because they’re healthy to begin with.
Obesity in senior people is deadly.
You’re overweight by BMI, but it would be more important to know what your body fat is.
I don’t think anyone needs to diet. What one needs is a little bit of knowledge about what certain processed foods are doing to our pancreas.
One needs to deplete the glycogen storage before the body burns fat. An example of depleting the Glycogen storage in a traumatic way is when a marathon runner, “hits the wall” and collapses at the end of a race. There is no glucose in the body.
The body will always mobilize tissue to maintain glucose levels to feed the brain, but people do not lose weight because they don’t understand what’s going on inside.
They buy Nutra Systems. They lose their 25 lbs, then stop and gain it back. They don’t understand why a low carb, high protein diet works.
You have good genes, and apparently had a healthy life style.
“As people age, they should reduce their weight. In many cases it happens naturally.
Well you were pointing out that you don’t see big fat 60 70 80 year olds as sort of evidence that most big fats don’t get that old.
I was just saying they lose weight at that time in their lives for the most part.
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