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Homeowner who found a 'naked' teacher's aide taking a SHOWER in his house, left to get....
daily mail uk ^ | April 5, 2017 | Emily Crane and Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

Posted on 04/05/2017 5:55:25 AM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Homeowner who found a 'naked' teacher's aide taking a SHOWER in his house, left to get his gun and then returned to shoot the 'intruder' dead through the bath curtain is charged with murder

An intruder who was shot dead by a homeowner after breaking in and using the shower has been identified as a 31-year-old teacher's aide.

Nathaniel Joseph Rosa was killed on Saturday morning inside the bathroom of a property in Belfair, Washington.

The man who owns the property has been charged with murder.

Police said the homeowner, who has not been named, called 911 shortly after 8am on Saturday and told the dispatcher he had shot an intruder.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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SOOOO he shoots the intruder, a naked one, and he's charged? Really how does he not know that man did not want to rape him? He could use that as a defense after all, in the leftist state of Washington I'd believe it.
1 posted on 04/05/2017 5:55:25 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: metmom

Finding a naked teacher’s aide in your home shower? Is that a reason to homeschool? Or a reason to get ADT?


2 posted on 04/05/2017 5:57:36 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

He should be charged with murder. He LEFT to get a gun, meaning he was under no imminent threat. He could have called the cops and waited outside.


3 posted on 04/05/2017 5:58:25 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Morgana
found a 'naked' teacher's aide taking a SHOWER in his house, left to get his gun and then returned

Granted the guy had no business taking a shower in someone else's house, however the shooter was in no danger. This is clear by him being able to leave and then return. When he left he should have just secured his weapon and called the police.

IOW once he broke contact he was out of any danger.

He gives gun owners a bad name. LOCK HIM UP!

4 posted on 04/05/2017 6:00:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
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To: Morgana

If this is the incident I am thinking of, he found the guy in the shower and LEFT the house to go to another house nearby to retrieve his gun. Then he CAME BACK to the house and shot the guy in the shower. Then he called 911 to report it.

That is pretty clearly murder to me.


5 posted on 04/05/2017 6:01:15 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: shelterguy

>>He should be charged with murder. He LEFT to get a gun, meaning he was under no imminent threat. He could have called the cops and waited outside.

How dare you read the article rather than just react! There’s moral outrage to be had here!


6 posted on 04/05/2017 6:02:27 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~u/base)
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To: Gamecock

Totally agree!


7 posted on 04/05/2017 6:03:42 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: shelterguy
He should be charged with murder. He LEFT to get a gun, meaning he was under no imminent threat. He could have called the cops and waited outside.

Absolutely. No reason to shoot a naked man in the shower.

However, his lawyer could establish a defense that he was attacked by a friendly weapon.

8 posted on 04/05/2017 6:05:50 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Parroting fake news is highly profitable for some.)
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To: Morgana
SOOOO he shoots the intruder, a naked one, and he's charged? Really how does he not know that man did not want to rape him?

He apparently left the house after finding the drunk/addict/lunatic in the shower and went to retrieve a gun, came back and then shot him. The prosecution will certainly make the case that he could have stayed outside the house and called the police. Castle doctrine laws usually mention something about "imminent threats" and if he was able to leave the house, he wasn't facing an imminent threat.
9 posted on 04/05/2017 6:09:51 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Morgana

Of course he was charged. You have the right to self defense, and you have the right to use lethal force in self defense if faced with an imminent threat of being killed or seriously injured. That does not apply here. Once the shooter left the house, there was no imminent threat. He should have called the police to deal with the intruder.

These type of incidents and those who defend the shooter in them just give lefties ammunition for their gun control argument. This one’s a no-brainer. You don’t have the right to shoot someone simply for tresspassing; there must be an actual threat.


10 posted on 04/05/2017 6:10:58 AM PDT by stremba
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To: shelterguy

It was an empty house where no one lived. Slight overreaction. A call to the police for trespass would have sufficed. Death does not.


11 posted on 04/05/2017 6:11:13 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: shelterguy

Yes. You’d have to be more blood-thirsty than afraid to do what he did.


12 posted on 04/05/2017 6:12:51 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: shelterguy

I agree that he should not have shot the guy. I would not vote for Murder 1 as a jury member, but a lesser charge is justified.


13 posted on 04/05/2017 6:15:30 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Gamecock; The_Media_never_lie; Howie66

I respectfully disagree. A naked man that you don’t know in your home is a clear danger. Not just to a female but to males these days.

Then again, had it been me I would have not only called 911 I would have ordered him out side at gunpoint for all the neighbors to see. No towel, just his birthday suit.


14 posted on 04/05/2017 6:16:36 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

This is one case where the property owner had ample opportunity and plenty of time to let the police handle the situation.
He obviously was in no immediate danger, had time go to his other house next door to retrieve a gun.
I got plenty of guns for home defense, but I believe it is immoral to take a mans life when he poses no immediate threat.
Obviously, you can’t tell what a home invader is “packing” if he is behind the shower curtain.


15 posted on 04/05/2017 6:17:09 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Morgana

“Finding a naked teacher’s aide in your home shower? Is that a reason to homeschool? Or a reason to get ADT?”

Both?


16 posted on 04/05/2017 6:20:37 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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To: Morgana

Yes, it’s murder.


17 posted on 04/05/2017 6:21:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam mandates warfare against unbelievers and is absolutely incompatible with Western society.)
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To: Morgana

You can disagree, respectfully or belligerently.

But I do suggest you read the law.

If you can disengage, and then choose to return and shoot, you are going to jail.


18 posted on 04/05/2017 6:21:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
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To: pinkandgreenmom

Yea..both.

Wonder that this aide’s backstory was? Had to be drugs or something.


19 posted on 04/05/2017 6:23:15 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Gamecock

You don’t get it. Am not harping about the fact he returned and shot. It’s that many of you don’t see a naked man as a danger. In this day and age you should. More so of that man is someone you don’t know and is in your house. Yes he should have called 911 but that does not man that naked man was not a danger just because he was clothing challenged at the time. He was more dangerous because of.


20 posted on 04/05/2017 6:26:14 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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