Posted on 05/02/2017 1:53:27 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
Thanks
“Drawl the sword and throw down the scabard”
Actually the source you cite is Catton’s trilogy about the Army of the Potomac. It is devoted to the actions of the AOP. Read it in the mid 60s.
Does your tagline -- "The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both." -- apply to your post?
I didn't get that from the movie. I mean -- we think Stonewall's relationship with the child is creepy. But did people at the time think so? Did Ron Maxwell, who made the film, even think so?
We might find the relationship between Lewis Armistead and Winfield Scott Hancock (Richard Jordan and Brian Mallon) in Gettysburg "creepy," but people 150 years ago wouldn't. That was just the way people expressed themselves back then. And people 150 years from now -- what will they think?
Looks like the 18th NC were the troops that fired on Jackson and his staff.
Consensus is that it was troops from the 18th NC that fired on Jackson and his staff. They were raised in South Eastern NC.
Dug out my copy of D-Day to play with my 13 year old. Fun memories.
Those that replaced him did not rise to his level of leadership.
You want creepy? Abraham Lincoln enjoyed sleeping with men:
“[W]hatever the level of intimacy of the relationship, it was the subject of gossip. Elizabeth Woodbury Fox, the wife of Lincoln’s naval aide, wrote in her diary for November 16, 1862, “Tish says, ‘Oh, there is a Bucktail soldier here devoted to the president, drives with him, and when Mrs. L. is not home, sleeps with him.’ What stuff!”[10]
[10] Michael B. Chesson, “Afterword: ‘The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln’,” p. 245, Free Press, 2005, ISBN 0-7432-6639-0
“This sleeping arrangement was also noted by a fellow officer in Derickson’s regiment, Thomas Chamberlin, in the book History of the One Hundred and Fiftieth Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Second Regiment, Bucktail Brigade.”[44]
[44] Martin P. Johnson, “Did Abraham Lincoln Sleep with His Bodyguard? Another Look at the Evidence”, Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association, Vol 27 No 2 (Summer 2006)
Also very cool! More so even!
You’re better than spreading that crap. Aren’t you?
But you haven't answered my post. Was there any truth at all in what you wrote about Jackson? Or was it just more BS?
It’s history. Despite what Henry Ford might have thought of history, it is not bunk.
There sources cited on the thread for all of this except the fragging. So was he fragged? I can’t prove it. Chances are very good that the guys who shot him had no way of knowing about Jacksons’ predilections.
And to give Jackson and Lee credit, they weren’t often as stupid with the lives of their soldiers as were the union generals.
But to anyone who might consider Jackson some kind of hero, remember: he was a crazed fanatic who thought that not only was fighting for slavery was the right thing to do — but that he was somehow doing God’s will in fighting for it.
That he had some "predilections," and that they were known to his men, and that he was shot on purpose were the only things new in your post, and now you say you can't prove them.
Stonewall's not a hero to me, but it's not right to just make up stuff about him.
Great post, thanks!
We know he had an unsettling attraction to six year old Janie Corbin. That’s undisputed.
AS for the fragging, no one knows for sure. It’s just a shame they didn’t do it sooner.
And you do know that all this happened over 150 years ago, right? Nobody should be taking any of it seriously.
Indications are Ron Maxwell, who made the movie, and Mort Kunstler, who painted a picture, didn't find it disturbing.
Were people 150 years ago really more jaded than people a decade or so back?
On second thought, why bother? It's not like I'm going to get a straight answer from you.
It’s not “history” anymore than the claim that you bugger baby baboons. (I read it somewhere).
Really? You do see I sourced that right?
Here’s the longer article for you, if you’re interested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Abraham_Lincoln
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