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Cruz Offers an Imperfect Healthcare Compromise that Just Might Work
Kinvig on Politics ^ | 7-13-2017 | Cameron Kinvig

Posted on 07/13/2017 11:45:44 AM PDT by ckinv368

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1 posted on 07/13/2017 11:45:45 AM PDT by ckinv368
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To: ckinv368

No Obamacare is the solution. Less federal involvement is the solution. Honoring the Constitution and not progressive mad schemes is the solution.


2 posted on 07/13/2017 12:07:36 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I completely agree on all of those things. Unfortunately, this may be the best we get. I don’t necessarily like it either, but it is better than Obamacare, and starts peeling that onion back . . .


3 posted on 07/13/2017 12:16:09 PM PDT by ckinv368
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To: ckinv368

Sucking less is about all we can hope for.


4 posted on 07/13/2017 12:18:37 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ckinv368; Rurudyne

I also completely agree with Rurudyne, but it’s all too clear it just is not going to happen.

And the Republicans are apparently too afraid to allow 0care to collapse on it’s own.

I always was in the ‘repeal or bust’ camp, but...


5 posted on 07/13/2017 12:22:01 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Rurudyne

That’s the way I see it. The $45 billion BS give-away, and keeping some Obamacare taxes, is the price we have to pay to largely get rid of a horrible government over-reach.


6 posted on 07/13/2017 12:23:08 PM PDT by ckinv368
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To: ckinv368

I humbly disagree. I think Obamacare should be in the mix. Break off Medicaid, give it back to the states with minimal funding to get that ship righted. Everything about catastrophic policies and reduced premiums should be the alternative to Obamacare. Then whack funding for Obamacare based on the amount of people that leave the program because they have better choices.

Turn Obamacare into the Governments choice of plans. Monitor it for a year and depending on how many people leave it, put a sunset provision in saying it doesn’t work. This way, it is always Obamacare and the Democrat plan. Plus, no one can say people were thrown off the plan. They made a choice to leave it.


7 posted on 07/13/2017 12:31:18 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.”)
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To: ckinv368

If it does not return medicine to the free market and that does NOT mean a simulacrum of the free market, medicine in America will continue to deteriorate. The problems with medial care and insurance derive wholly from previous government intervention in first, the insurance market (FDR) then in the whole medical field. So Obamacare was to solve those problems by multiplying government intervention which resulted in insuring more people and cutting more people out of medical care altogether though they do have “insurance.” Now the ongoing collapse of the savior system is bringing a tweaking of government intervention and a removal of much of the funding for the government Health System for that is what it is. Our elected representatives are the recipients of a whole new and wonderful world of graft and corruption such that they soon will not even have to pay lip service to the voters. Government control of medicine and access to medicine is ultimately total control of the society. The elected officials cannot let this get away from them by rationalizing the system back to the free market. It cannot be done by Congressional vote.


8 posted on 07/13/2017 12:31:39 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: MichaelCorleone

Welcome to Stockholm Syndrome!


9 posted on 07/13/2017 12:32:28 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: MichaelCorleone

The Republicans are desperately trying to stamp “Republican” and “Trump” on the collapse. They will stand for nothing less.


10 posted on 07/13/2017 12:33:06 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ckinv368

Cruz’s plan is a very sneaky way of getting rid of Obamacare by allowing people the option of purchasing other health care insurance. It will be the death of Obamacare. Very clever in my mind.


11 posted on 07/13/2017 12:37:51 PM PDT by HarleyD (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left.)
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To: ckinv368

It were better to leave Obamacare to collapse fully with Hussein’s brand on it. Any system the Republicans come up with will be a salvage and will collapse just the same but will have Trump’s brand on it.


12 posted on 07/13/2017 12:39:01 PM PDT by arthurus
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It were better to leave Obamacare to collapse fully with Hussein’s brand on it. Any system the Republicans come up with will be a salvage and will collapse just the same but will have Trump’s brand on it.


13 posted on 07/13/2017 12:39:17 PM PDT by arthurus
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Released today, the new Senate healthcare plan—modified by Sen. Ted Cruz—gets Republicans most of the way there, and may actually stand a chance of passage. Under the modified plan, federal Medicaid costs would be decreased at the state level, and most Obamacare taxes and penalties (many of which weren’t complied with anyway) would disappear. Gone will be the day when my butcher Roland (who is healthy) is required to pay a $700 penalty each year he doesn’t sign up for an overly-expensive government-mandated plan he can’t afford.


I read earlier that McConnell released the bill and it didn’t include the Cruz Lee Amendment. Maybe he was able to get a motion thru that added it?!?


14 posted on 07/13/2017 12:40:45 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: ckinv368

Medical Insurance should be as easy to buy as Car Insurance.


15 posted on 07/13/2017 12:44:33 PM PDT by McGruff (MAGA)
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To: Freedom56v2

I was just going off of what the WSJ said. Think Cruz won enough support to slip the amendment into the formal bill that was re-unveiled this afternoon.


16 posted on 07/13/2017 12:45:29 PM PDT by ckinv368
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Hope so...that would be good news if he had success. Thank you for posting this.


17 posted on 07/13/2017 12:53:54 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: ckinv368

The perfect solution:
Repeal Obamacare in full
Put Medicare back to where it was
Allow folks to buy the health insurance THEY WANT across state lines to promote competition
Drop the 26 year old on parents policy BS
Drop the pre-existing conditions BS

Healthcare is not a right it’s a product you purchase..IF you want it.


18 posted on 07/13/2017 12:55:28 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising)
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It’s a LOT better than Ebolacare. No mandates (Ebola and Reggie deeply saddened), and we don’t have to buy the crap commie-care plans. The other stuff in Ebolacare is also bad, but more at the level of noise than those two issues.


19 posted on 07/13/2017 1:01:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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“Drop the pre-existing conditions BS”

Many people say this and I wonder, what would you personally do if you or a family member had a pre-existing condition and could not buy health insurance?


20 posted on 07/13/2017 1:07:12 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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