Posted on 09/28/2017 1:40:06 AM PDT by ARGLOCKGUY
Yeah sure...
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Will S
19 hours ago
He will go down in history as the man of all men.
Even as a young man, I wasn't particularly impressed with Hefner. To me he didn't lift women up. To me he used them and their bodies for profit.
Is that an example of respect? Is it an example of being real man?
I'm not convinced of it.
I'm not going to trash the guy unilaterally, but I don't think he did a lot to reduce tensions around sex. I don't think he enlightened people.
I do think he objectified women, helping some men see women as only sex objects, not associated with respect and a life-long commitment.
One of the things I objected to Women's Lib for, was the idea that women would be likely to adopt some of the crass behaviors of men, so they could attain equality.
I think Hefner contributed to the coarsening of both sexes.
I am not convinced men or women are better off for him having around.
I should add.
I’ve been amazed at the women who have felt the need to be around Hefner. It has never been my thought that women were much more desirable having done a photo spread for Hefner.
It was sort of like the well known actresses that submitted themselves to Howard Stern for crass comments and insults to their intelligence.
True enough about ‘Nam. There’s no one kind of person in a generation.
I react very strongly to Hef because I saw how his philosophy completely destroyed (and is still destroying) people my age and younger. But you did make me think about how he came to be, and I’m closer to working out a problem that’s been bugging me for a while.
So thanks. We crusty Freepers do learn a thing or two once in a while.
Previous generations would have had an easy answer for whether Hef was a “real man”, considering he walked around in a bathrobe.
It’s very important that we reclaim this simple truth: that guys like Hef are effeminate sensualists, not hypermasculine macho guys.
Seinfeld nailed the type. Robes and lotions, thick carpeting and weirdo lighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ms3NPVMJg
I agree with your thoughts there.
That clip was great too.
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