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Steve Wozniak: ‘I Don’t Believe Anything Elon Musk or Tesla Says’
San Jose Mercury News ^ | January 30, 2018 | Seung Lee

Posted on 01/30/2018 1:28:05 PM PST by nickcarraway

It’s no shocker that Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak is wary of Elon Musk and Tesla — he once said there is “way too much hype” around the company.

At a conference in Sweden last week, Wozniak, who owns two Model S vehicles, doubled down on his Tesla criticism — while still leaving an opening for future optimism.

“Now, I don’t believe anything Elon Musk or Tesla says,” Wozniak said. “But I still love the car.”

In his talk about Tesla, Wozniak recounted one incident at Lake Tahoe, where his Tesla skidded off an icy road and fell into a snow bank, according to Business Insider, which reported on the Q&A with Wozniak. Despite the accident, Wozniak said he maintained his trust for Tesla, upgrading his model when Tesla introduced the feature that allows Tesla owners to “summon” their self-driving vehicles.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: apple; australia; facebook; fascistbook; markzuckerberg; stevewozniak; zuckerberg
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1 posted on 01/30/2018 1:28:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Hey Woz, Tesla died in 43. And the cars don’t talk.


2 posted on 01/30/2018 1:32:01 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t trust anything either of them say.

I don’t have a personal problem with either, but even Woz’s job is now to make money for larger entities. To get him to work for you is millions and he has to show that kind of improvement to your company to justify the costs.

This means he will (and should) say and do anything to raise your company to new heights. And frankly, he can’t enough ideas and command ability to do so at his cost.

Elon Musk, we all know, is fundamentally a hype guy. He does it different than other hype guys but it’s still his job. His cars are neat, but they operate at a net loss and are cheaply built (outside of the motor and batteries). He’s done a fine job of getting to line up to pay $130k for $8000 worth of laptop batteries, $10-20k worth of motors and $14,000 worth of leftover Mercedes bits.

Elon has always said that people are paying too much for his cars because they are funding his R&D. Woz tells people they are paying a ton of money .. just because they get shiny things in return.

The proof is in the pudding.


3 posted on 01/30/2018 1:35:32 PM PST by Celerity
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To: nickcarraway

Hey you just ease up there Mr. Wozniak. Just imagine if you spent $50 billion on assembly plants and a gigafactory that you can’t get to function. You just might be selling hats and flamethrowers too. And its not true that Elon Musk and Jim Jones were cousins. So watch what you say or you will make some people very, very angry. You might just get yourself exiled from California.


4 posted on 01/30/2018 1:37:07 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wiz was a tag along in the creation of Apple. Calling him cofounder though is technically correct.


5 posted on 01/30/2018 1:40:38 PM PST by Fhios (1987 - Where's Waldo. 2017 - Where's Jeff Sessions?)
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To: nickcarraway

Elon Musk is like the Wizard of Oz.

There is nothing behind the curtain


6 posted on 01/30/2018 1:42:22 PM PST by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President)
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To: nickcarraway

“...Wozniak recounted one incident at Lake Tahoe, where his Tesla skidded off an icy road and fell into a snow bank...”

I live in snow country - it’s snowing right now outside my office window - and the MAJORITY of folks who live here do not have snow tires!

WOZ likely did not have appropriate ‘shoes’ on his rig.

I don’t give a crap about the car or Musk, et. al. - if you want to drive in snow and ice BUY FREAKIN’ SNOW TIRES!


7 posted on 01/30/2018 1:45:04 PM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: allendale

Who said Jim Jones?


8 posted on 01/30/2018 1:46:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Vaquero

Electric cars are not the best on snow or ice.
Full torque at zero RPM will defiantly cause slides and skids.


9 posted on 01/30/2018 1:51:43 PM PST by Zathras
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To: nickcarraway

Tesla makes an absolutely fantastic vehicle. This vehicle should not exist in a truly free market. It exists only because of government subsidizes. If it can succeed without a subsidies, this is good. If it fails without a subsidy this is also good.


10 posted on 01/30/2018 1:52:12 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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Tesla makes an absolutely fantastic vehicle. This vehicle should not exist in a truly free market. It exists only because of government subsidizes. If it can succeed without a subsidies, this is good. If it fails without a subsidy this is also good.


11 posted on 01/30/2018 1:55:29 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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I don’t believe a word published in the Murkey Nooz nor the Yeast Bay Slimes.
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12 posted on 01/30/2018 1:57:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Wozniak recounted one incident at Lake Tahoe, where his Tesla skidded off an icy road and fell into a snow bank

... all by it's own self. Woz dindu nuffin.

13 posted on 01/30/2018 1:58:22 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: BBB333

Does Blizzak even make low profile tires or is there some other manufacturer for those?


14 posted on 01/30/2018 1:59:29 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: allendale

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Woz is just a big old kid!
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15 posted on 01/30/2018 2:00:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: nickcarraway

Saw my first Tesla Model 3 yesterday. FWIW.


16 posted on 01/30/2018 2:04:17 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Which A in MAGA stood for Amnesty?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

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Ever been to Tahoe in the winter?

Most of the roads are like snow tunnels that you couldn’t slide off of if you tried!

(had a house up there long time ago. had to winch my way into my own driveway to park in the winter)


17 posted on 01/30/2018 2:04:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: WashingtonFire

Musk doesn’t take a salary. He gets paid minimum wage by law, but doesn’t cash the checks. He borrows against his stock holdings to pay his expenses. Just about everything he has is invested in his companies.


18 posted on 01/30/2018 2:07:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, but I own a Subaru GT turbo wagon that I got a real deal on because the owner couldn’t handle it as well as she thought she could and stuffed it into a snowbank sideways up there. Paint was perfect, just dimpled and one fender slightly curled under. Dent Doctor, $600 all said, can’t even tell. Original paint, clean Carfax.


19 posted on 01/30/2018 2:09:08 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Fhios
Wiz was a tag along in the creation of Apple.

He wasn't a Steve Jobs, but he was no tagalong. Without Wozniak, there is no Apple Computer.
20 posted on 01/30/2018 2:12:17 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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