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Bob Dylan on Guns
https://spectator.org ^ | 2/23/18

Posted on 02/24/2018 4:20:17 PM PST by BBell

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To: waterhill
Dylan has been residing in Pete seegar’s head for decades

Not any more.

The only thing going though that Communist POS's head is probably worms. He died last year. He will not be missed by any thinking person.

While i have to admit he did have talent, and i listened to his music, i never forgot what he was, and what he was attempting to do.

He made a living pitching his sob story about being black listed by the McCarthy Committee, when he never appeared before the McCarthy Committee, and never would have...the McCarthy, more properly called the Tidings Committee, dealt with Communists in sensitive positions in the US Government. Seeger did not qualify. He actually appeared before the House Un-American Activities Committee, but it didn't sound as "sexy" as the McCarthy Committee.

In his defence, i have to say that he stood by his convictions in front of the House Committee at great personal and professional risk --he was blacklisted.

If only more politicians would stand by their campaign promises as firmly as Seeger stood up for his views under pressure.

Were it up to Seeger, Dylan would today be an obscure performer singing slogans and not relevant to anything or anyone.

21 posted on 02/24/2018 5:39:34 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

I loved it when Dylan wrote in his first bio that Goldwater was the more interesting guy in ‘64.

You never hear the media bring that up.


22 posted on 02/24/2018 6:08:16 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke

Dylan probably had the “lowdown” on what LBJ really was. And no, i’m not offering any conspiracy theories on the Kennedy assassination.

Love him or hate him, Goldwater had character. He was probably the last politician who was a true renaissance man because of the myriad of interests that he had.


23 posted on 02/24/2018 6:31:42 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

That was my first political involvement, passing out door-knob flyers for Barry. Now I am retire in his great state.


24 posted on 02/24/2018 6:34:48 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke

Well, you may just have a few years on me. It is an anecdotal saying but true: My father repeated it in 1964. “They told me that if I voted for Barry Goldwater, American boys would die in Vietnam. By God! They were right.”

Goldwater would have lead us into another great age of growth and prosperity. Instead we had war debt and 58,000+ deaths in Vietnam.


25 posted on 02/24/2018 6:49:29 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: BBell

During the Yom Kippur War, Dylan gave Israel enough money to buy a new main battle tank.


26 posted on 02/24/2018 6:54:08 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: BBell

bump


27 posted on 02/24/2018 7:00:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (WeÂ’re even doing the right thing for them. They just donÂ’t know it yet. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: BBell

Robert A. Zimmerman aka Bob Dylan from Hibbing, MN decided to use Dylan Thomas’ first name. Was his favorite poet. Dylan was mostly conservative but he preferred to not let all his wild ass liberal fans know about it. He was getting rich and a star. His lyrics were exceptional. Made up for him not singing real well. But people still try to imitate him. He probably votes for more republicans, conservatives and libertarians then he does liberals. Talk to groups like “The Rolling Stones” and they will tell you Bob Dylan was a big influence on them. Oh yea “Beatles” also.


28 posted on 02/24/2018 7:00:28 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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That TV interviewer did not know it but he was talking to the real Dylan. And winds up looking look an idiot.


29 posted on 02/24/2018 7:05:22 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: Datom
Made up for him not singing real well.

Perhaps a minor point of contention in your otherwise decent post but that criticism of Dylan's singing always grates on me. I prefer genuine singing to the artificially "polished" singing that we are told to appreciate.

In addition to Bob Dylan, we have Janis Joplin, Willie Nelson, Tom Waits, and many others with "unpolished" but very unique voices that make them great.

30 posted on 02/24/2018 7:15:34 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Yes.


31 posted on 02/24/2018 7:18:05 PM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SamAdams76

Yes, his singing became one of his trademarks. I was a one of his concerts in Chicago when after the break he can out with an electric guitar and some people got up and left. Must have really P.O.ed the liberals. Didn’t appear to bother him in the lest bit. He also wrote many songs for the English bands like the “Birds.”


32 posted on 02/24/2018 7:55:04 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: Datom

Tom Waits was great too. The he does about calling himself up and himself out on a date is hellerious.


33 posted on 02/24/2018 8:02:10 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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To: KC Burke

Bob rattled their cages right from the start. Part of it was he was a chameleon - some of it was an act. I mean, he wasn’t really a hillbilly. He was a middle class kid from Minnesota!

He gave a speech right after the Kennedy assasination - at some kind of awards ceremony, and made some curious remarks about Oswald that weren’t particularly well received. My working theory is that he does not like being typecast or pegged or getting in a rut. Neil Young is sort of similar in that way. Put it this way - Neil Young playing “My My Hey Hey” with Devo wasn’t on my radar.

One curious story about Bob - why wasn’t he drafted? Quite a few of the folkies and rock and rollers were prime age for the Army. At the time, foreigners - like the Stones (or NY) et al, could easily have been hassled with visa problems, and most of them were walking pharmaceutical outlets. If some “subversive” like Seeger or any of those guys gets a little too out of line, a couple years at Benning’s School for Boys will hook ‘em right up.

A few have suggested - it went something like this Bob was approached and told to lay off the counterculture stuff early, or a draft notice would forthcoming. This is supposedly obliquely refrenced on “Magee’s Farm” - Remember the McGee farm was where he played at a big civil rights shindig. This was his way of letting everyone know he was done with the “Antiwar” stuff and the activist and direct action stuff. He went electric soon after.

I think he’s a survivor, he must have had some good mentorship early in his career, and he paid attention. That whole industry is pretty rough on folks. Think of how many of his peer group are dead or casualties. Hell, not Mr. D, he’s still touring!!


34 posted on 02/24/2018 9:13:51 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: SamAdams76

But Bob didn’t really sound like a hillbilly either. That had to be fake. Remember he was from Minnesota. Or, was he faking his accent on “Lay Lady Lay” during the John Wesley Harding time period? See where I’m going with that?

He was a huge BSer at the time, early in his career. He claimed for a time to have been a hobo, and was a cowboy in New Mexico, ran away from home 16 times, etc etc.

https://youtu.be/P9MCXJuG3KA
Early 1962 recording, interview with Cynthia Gooding

https://youtu.be/t4nA3QwGPBg

1963 Studs Terkel interview, lays his “hillbilly” accent on thick. Probably last interview where he didn’t tell ‘em to get bent.


35 posted on 02/24/2018 9:32:00 PM PST by Freedom4US
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I don’t hold that against Dylan. He left Minnesota to go to New York City when he was just a youngster and he made it. As one who went to New York City as well, he earns my respect. New York City is a tough place to make it.


36 posted on 02/24/2018 9:35:49 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Freedom4US

Aside from having terrible eyesight, Dylan was born in 1941 and was too old and already married for the expanded draft for Vietnam, which targeted those born starting a few years later.


37 posted on 02/24/2018 9:35:57 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SamAdams76

Absolutely! Hard times in East Orange.


38 posted on 02/25/2018 11:01:27 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: jjotto

Right, but they still were drafting young men in ‘62 or ‘63 or ‘64 and it would seem to be a useful tool for dealing with people who are being a little too inconvenient. Even Elvis, just a few years earlier, was not immune.


39 posted on 02/25/2018 11:04:33 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: BBell

Dylan has always hated hippies.

L


40 posted on 02/25/2018 11:11:56 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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