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Stillwater bail agent fatally shoots client at her office
https://www.liveleak.com/ ^ | 3/14/18

Posted on 03/17/2018 12:42:20 PM PDT by BBell

Prosecutors Monday released video of a Stillwater bail agent fatally shooting one of her clients last year at her office.

Chasity Dawn Carey was charged with first-degree murder after the shooting. On Friday, Payne County jurors acquitted Carey, 42, of Drumright, in the Aug. 9 shooting.

At trial, Carey testified she shot the client, Brandon James Williams, 38, of Stillwater, in self-defense. She and her 19-year-old son, Justin Henderson, were attempting to take Williams, who was free on bail, back into custody at the time.

Carey testified Williams attempted to grab her gun before fleeing out her office window. She said she beat Williams to the gun and turned to fire just as he was going out the window. She shot Williams in the back.

Carey's son set up his GoPro camera in the office moments before Williams arrived that day.

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TOPICS: Local News; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bailagent; brandonjameswilliams; chasitydawncarey; client; justinhenderson; shoots; stillwater
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To: BBell

Glad that she help clear some scum.

As far as the camera goes, I would have at least flushed the SD Card down the drain, if not disposed of the entire camera. Hard to see how the video helped her.


21 posted on 03/17/2018 1:15:01 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BBell

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She “got away with it” for the same reason that the police get away with it.

Constitutionally, there is zero difference between a private citizen and a cop.

The right to aprehend a criminal is a right solely of a citizen. There is no constitutional power of arrest outside that of every citizen.

The only constitutional arrest is the citizen’s arrest.
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22 posted on 03/17/2018 1:18:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Hardly.
Few years ago, an Obama son got out of his car in a road rage incident & threatened to kill a man still in his car.

As the “son” went back to his car, the dude opened fire and hit the guy about 8 times - most in his back.

He wasn’t even charged. Happened in PA I believe.


23 posted on 03/17/2018 1:18:26 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: BBell

There is no struggle for the gun in the video. He left the frame, she gets the gun out of her desk drawer and shoots him in the back. Where is the evidence that he was trying to get her gun?


24 posted on 03/17/2018 1:18:38 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: BobL

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The video proved that he resisted arrest. That was all that was necessary to a properly understanding jury.
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25 posted on 03/17/2018 1:20:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: poinq
I agree with you. Just on the basis of what's one the video --- which admittedly is not everything --- he was unarmed, his back was to her, and he was heading out. That's all.

It doesn't matter if he was, in anybody's estimation, a great all-around guy or a no-count white trash. Irrelevant. She killed an unarmed man by shooting him in the back. Was he trying to escape? Well, he was not a murderer (2nd degree burglary and possession of weed? C'mon) and attempted escape is not a capital offense.

26 posted on 03/17/2018 1:20:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. That is the whole of the Law and the Prophets.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

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Trying to get her gun would not be an issue.

Resisting a lawful arrest was the primary issue.


27 posted on 03/17/2018 1:22:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

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You’re assuming her intent was to kill.

That was definitely not in evidence, and absent proof that the event was staged to cause his death, she is acquitted.
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28 posted on 03/17/2018 1:26:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Resisting arrest from a bail agent? Do they really have the right to shoot anyone who runs away from them?


29 posted on 03/17/2018 1:26:31 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: T-Bird45

Thanks for the info. What you said reminds me of Zimmerman. They overcharged him big time. The most they could have got Zimmerman on was negligent homicide.


30 posted on 03/17/2018 1:29:33 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yea, you’re probably right - the penalty for evidence tampering is very high.


31 posted on 03/17/2018 1:30:52 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: editor-surveyor

I admit ignorance of the law. If an unarmed person who’s supposed to be in custody is trying to escape, -— he’s moving away from you, back to you -— just for that reason alone you can shot him in the back?

Really?


32 posted on 03/17/2018 1:32:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. That is the whole of the Law and the Prophets.")
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To: granite
Police said Williams was arrested in late July 2017 and charged with three counts of second-degree burglary, as well as possession of marijuana.

Now we know the crime. What of the history?

About 30 years ago Minneapolis (my home town) had a liberal Democrat police chief (Tony Bouza). In a downtown altercation, a Minneapolis cop shot and killed a petty criminal who had a history of about half of his life in jail for such crimes as purse snatching.

Our media (Mpls Start/Tribune and St. Paul Piomeer Press plus the local broadcast news around the edges) were aghast at such police brutality. I don't remember that the cop we ever charged with anything.

Remember, Bouza was a LIBERAL Democrat. He said, "Look at it this way. Just know how many space invading crimes will now be avoided between now and the time this dead clown would have approached retirement age." He supported his cop. Today, that cop could plan on a lengthy prison sentence for murder.

Was Williams a career criminal? If not, I would really need to know how the defense attorney convinced the jury that Williams needed to die and it was a good thing.

33 posted on 03/17/2018 1:46:57 PM PDT by stevem
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To: BenLurkin

LOL!


34 posted on 03/17/2018 1:50:07 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: T-Bird45

Wouldn’t it be a kicker if they managed a guilty verdict anyways?


35 posted on 03/17/2018 1:57:29 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Vendome

Shooting an unarmed fleeing felon is a no go, unless it is known that the subject will go and inflict harm to another person. Tennessee vs Garner case many years ago determined when you can or cannot use DPF(Deadly Physical Force). If they were struggling for the weapon and it was used to defend yourself is one thing, but when the struggle ends and the bad guy is fleeing,then it’s up to the jury to decide. I hate these scum criminals, but this is the system we have.


36 posted on 03/17/2018 2:00:10 PM PDT by MGunny
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To: BBell

Best to stay out of some areas, until they’re cleaned up (which can take a very long time). There are other areas somewhat near there that have been mobbed up, too, although some improvement has been seen.


37 posted on 03/17/2018 2:24:04 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: BBell

1st degree manslaughter.

They over charged her on purpose.


38 posted on 03/17/2018 2:24:46 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Moonman62
"Not necessarily. If someone can still be a threat shooting them in the back can be legal."

Yes, an immediate, deadly threat. It happens sometimes, more often after an attempt to attack or inside a house during a home invasion.


39 posted on 03/17/2018 2:48:38 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: stevem
"Was Williams a career criminal? If not, I would really need to know how the defense attorney convinced the jury that Williams needed to die and it was a good thing."

That's a very good point. If she has no history, only the people close to her know. And we don't.


40 posted on 03/17/2018 2:54:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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