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Pros & Cons of sawed-off shotgun (18 inch or longer barrel) and appropriate use(s)
Gun Project | 12 August 2018 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 08/12/2018 5:38:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

An old side by side is a more than adequate home defense weapon if you’re on a budget. if cutting you’re own I read cutting each barrel at a slight angle will widin you shot pattern.


61 posted on 08/12/2018 7:39:14 PM PDT by gdc61
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“And, my mule is your mule’s brother.”

Just three rounds will bruise you. 10 will take you out of action for a day or two.

Unless you really like to suffer.

I’ve fired a .400 Weatherby and it didn’t kick as hard as this Mossberg pump with 3in mag.

Friggin ouch.


62 posted on 08/12/2018 7:39:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I thought a shotgun barrel length less than 18” came under NFA & had to be registered/tax paid.

Went to the farm for some shooting. Friend has a birds head grip pump with 14” barrel. Bought it & walked out with it. Wicked at close range.

I bought two old side by side hammerguns with steel barrels. Cut them to 18 1/2” with a radial arm saw. Just like Michael Corleone’s bodyguards. Fun to shoot.


63 posted on 08/12/2018 7:40:24 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970
I bought two old side by side hammerguns with steel barrels. Cut them to 18 1/2” with a radial arm saw. Just like Michael Corleone’s bodyguards. Fun to shoot.

What kind of pattern do you get and at what distances?

64 posted on 08/12/2018 7:43:21 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: elcid1970

The 18” applies if it has a butt stock and is shoulder mounted. If it has a pistol grip, that length does not apply.


65 posted on 08/12/2018 7:44:32 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sasparilla

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Actually I have a Remington .22 pump that has the same effect, but it poses less danger to the furniture.


66 posted on 08/12/2018 7:46:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mariner

I ran 4 boxes of hi brass 3” max bar #4s through my synthetic stocked 500 several years ago in less than 30 minutes...i was sore but i was also used to shooting a hot loaded 450 marlin so hey ,just a bruise that will heal.

To the orginal point...my father in law used to go dove huntimg once a year and they’d all have their fancy guns and a case of shells, he’d carry his 20 gauge coach gun (imp/mod cylinders) and maybe a box of shells and get his limit with a few left over every time


67 posted on 08/12/2018 7:53:16 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: Equine1952

My firearms are loaded, for defensive purposes, of course.

I never understood the idea of making any extra noise with the action.

At that point the game is afoot. Make your best play.


68 posted on 08/12/2018 8:00:16 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: editor-surveyor

I think a good .22 auto is a better than average home defense weapon.

Beside my bed and in the room are a Winchester Defender 18 inch loaded with OO buck. About any other load would be about as good. Two fully loaded Browning Hi-Powere and a bunch of spare mags. (the spare mags are probably not really necedssary but I have them so why not?

Also a Remington Model 552 Speedmaster fully loaded including chamber with safety on. Also an 18” machete, a carpenters hatchet, a rebuilt Samurai Sword, and a Cold Steel speear.

I would prefer a Ruger 10/22 to the Remington but they are both very reliable. The Ruger can hold more rounds and can be reloaded far faster. The Remington is unusually accurate but that would make no difference in the house.

Oh, I forgot, also two Cold Steel short shovels sharpened almost to razor sharp on all edges. Those shovels have really hard steel and are hard to sharpen.


69 posted on 08/12/2018 8:02:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Fightin Whitey

Agreed,,,
My Wheel gun is,

Point,Click.


70 posted on 08/12/2018 8:04:16 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: Manuel OKelley

20g is fine for birds. In fact, I’m looking for a good one, prefer double barrel...but those are rare anymore.

But an 18in 12g with 3in mags/00 is for a different kind of shooting.

And I’m not interested in shooting 20 rds through it just for fun.

And I’m a big, strong man.


71 posted on 08/12/2018 8:06:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: yarddog

Either you live in
A Gun Shop
Or
Your Danny Trejo!


72 posted on 08/12/2018 8:07:28 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: yarddog

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If you want accuracy, you can’t beat a Remington.


73 posted on 08/12/2018 8:09:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Big Red Badger

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These days, you have to live in a gun shop.


74 posted on 08/12/2018 8:11:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If a mob is rushing you you can hit multiple targets with one shot given the shell load.


75 posted on 08/12/2018 8:15:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Big Red Badger

I usually just keep one weapon handy in my car. In the rest of my house are a lot more but they are not instantly ready. I have outlived almost all my family with only a Daughter and her family living a thousand miles away. For some reason, the idea of someone sneaking up on me while I am asleep has always bothered me.

I do keep a few more near outside doors. Also a couple hidden outdoors. I live in a rural area.

I just realized there is also a pole axe leaning against the wall. I can’t imagine a situation where I would use it, but there it is anyway.


76 posted on 08/12/2018 8:16:13 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

I don’t think there is a one best answer for home defense. But I had a thought. Maybe firing our choice at night to experience the muzzle flash would be educational. Might even save a person’s life some day.


77 posted on 08/12/2018 8:41:09 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

As you probably know and other posts tend to indicate, there may be problems depending on where you live, overall length etc.
As I am not a shyster, I furnish no advice and you are capable of Googling the rest.

Canada:Sawing off a shotgun can mean serious prison time – but loophole allows new shotguns with 8.5-inch barrels

In the United States, it is illegal to posses a sawed off shotgun that has a barrel length of less than eighteen inches, unless the individual has obtained a taxed permit from the ATF. That permit requires a background check and payment of an excise tax for that weapon. However, each state has different laws which govern the types of weapons that residents are allowed to own and a state may forbid ownership of a sawed off shotgun, simply because of the ease with which it can be conceale


78 posted on 08/12/2018 8:44:40 PM PDT by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Probably too many posts here to get an answer but with pump action shotguns that list like a capacity of three is there a removable plug or something that expands the rounds of the gun and I assume that would still work with a shortened barrel?

Lost all my weapons and ammo in a freak kayak accident so I’m back in the market. I think everybody should have some home protection but just 2 or 3 rounds? Ridiculous.

Our little hand shower head had a little doohickey that seemed to cut down on the water flow. I’d taken the dang thing completely apart before I saw the problem. No disassembly required.

My wife kisses and hugs me on a regular basis these days now for no apparent reason. Weird.

;-)


79 posted on 08/12/2018 8:45:09 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: 2harddrive

Have this baby in 12G next to my front door. You’d better have a firm grip on it when pulling this trigger. Kicks like a mule! Don’t expect to do much writing for a while if you pop 5 off rapidly.


80 posted on 08/12/2018 8:50:28 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!)
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