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Columbus sailing to India & China by going West? What blocked going East?
American Minute ^ | August 3, 2019 | Bill Federer

Posted on 08/07/2019 11:58:52 AM PDT by Perseverando

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Time for another American history lesson from American Minute.

Lots of info on the Islamic jihad against Europe in the article.

1 posted on 08/07/2019 11:58:52 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

There was no Suez canal.


2 posted on 08/07/2019 12:03:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Perseverando

“Columbus sailing to India & China by going West? What blocked going East?”

Maybe a wild guess here, but I suspect that the Panama Canal had not been fully completed and certified for ocean-going ships by 1492, and therefore North, Central, and South American kind of stood in Chris’s way to reaching ‘the Orient’.


3 posted on 08/07/2019 12:05:29 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Perseverando

For more on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3769102/posts

Some folks hate history. Wonder why?


4 posted on 08/07/2019 12:05:35 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: BobL
Maybe a wild guess here, but I suspect that the Panama Canal had not been fully completed and certified for ocean-going ships by 1492, and therefore North, Central, and South American kind of stood in Chris’s way to reaching ‘the Orient’.

Columbus was an idiot, if he flew it would have been much faster.

5 posted on 08/07/2019 12:07:58 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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What blocked going East?

Land. It's hard to sail over land.

6 posted on 08/07/2019 12:13:06 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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Columbus was an idiot, if he flew it would have been much faster.
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Or taken the train.


7 posted on 08/07/2019 12:13:09 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: BobL
Maybe a wild guess here, but I suspect that the Panama Canal had not been fully completed and certified for ocean-going ships by 1492, and therefore North, Central, and South American kind of stood in Chris’s way to reaching ‘the Orient’.

But they didn't know about the North and South American continents. They thought it was a straight shot to 'the Orient'.

8 posted on 08/07/2019 12:14:41 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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Or taken the train.

Yes, the train is much more comfortable than flying.

9 posted on 08/07/2019 12:15:36 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Perseverando

That reminds me of my essay I wrote for my final in Western History. The instructor Jeffery Herf (who like Islam) ask what did Islam contribute to the West.

I stated the discovery of America…

He was very surprise with my response but took it as a logical response. Got an A on the final.


10 posted on 08/07/2019 12:15:59 PM PDT by DEPcom
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May I add: till Henry Hudson, the Dutch and Brits thought they could go north and east along Russia to China. But each year they ran into ice, even in the summer. Some years they got further than others. Then they counted on Hudson to find the northwest passage on America.


11 posted on 08/07/2019 12:16:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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I think they are saying “Why not go around Africa instead”.
The eastern routes were blocked by hostile powers.


12 posted on 08/07/2019 12:22:17 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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This is something nobody ever mentions....there were hundreds of thousands of Europeans captured and enslaved by the Muslims and goods valued in the millions were carried off by the Muslims. They effectively shut down the Mediterranean. Mohammed was nothing but a bandit warlord and so were all of his followers.


13 posted on 08/07/2019 12:26:56 PM PDT by livius
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History and biography is all I read any more. I feel my time is wasted if I don’t learn something from what I read. This from the man who in his youth read every SF classic and pulp F&SF he could find.


14 posted on 08/07/2019 12:29:05 PM PDT by arthurus (ghsj,,,)
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To: 1Old Pro

Or set off on his next adventure - to the Sun - at night.


15 posted on 08/07/2019 12:30:25 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A law means nothing if it isnÂ’t followed.)
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Vasco Da Gama went East to India. It was generally believed by those seriously contemplating such things that going East around Africa was a longer route than going west straight across the ocean to Cathay. Alas, Cathay turned out to be New Jersey.


16 posted on 08/07/2019 12:31:19 PM PDT by arthurus (ghsj,,,/)
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hauling boats over stretches of land was a thing even back when

wouldn’t have been an impossible task to drag it into the Red Sea


17 posted on 08/07/2019 12:32:16 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: Perseverando
Disregarding the rhetorical nature of the question and the fact that the article fails to mention, I read all of the comments.

I'm appalled that no one remembers that the Earth was flat in 1492.

This highlights why he didn't go 'east':


18 posted on 08/07/2019 12:39:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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History and biography is all I read any more.

Kudos to you. Have you read "The Muslim Discovery of Europe" by Bernard Lewis? An extraordinary book, an eye-opener.

19 posted on 08/07/2019 12:43:58 PM PDT by nwrep
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Over The Edge of the World. Magellan’s actual chronicler provides a lot of the content.

1491 America before columbus


20 posted on 08/07/2019 12:46:38 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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