Posted on 01/31/2024 9:31:34 AM PST by dennisw
something I don’t understand.
my understanding is that the active ingredient in natto —that makes it cardiovascular healthy— is vitamin k.
Is there something else in there as well?
Nattokinase is an enzyme present in natto and is separate from vitamin K2. (which is also in natto).
BKMK
is the Nattokinaise available in pill form?
I still have some in my medicine cabinet that I’ve never used. My doc said if I ever got CoVid and wanted to use it, he would write me a script. I just haven’t had the need (CoVid was mild when I had it). What’s there is probably expired, but hey, I don’t care. If I can use it for other purposes, I’ll be looking into that.
In conversations with people here and elsewhere, one of the things pointed out to me was that humans are about the only critter that humans come in contact with that don’t get regular dewormings. Think about it - dogs, cats, horses, cattle, the list goes on.
I started giving the dogs horse Ivermectin, properly dosed (I can do basic math), because it’s like 1/10 the price of the doggie heartworm pills (key ingredient, Ivermectin). They get it monthly. I take an appropriate amount (enough for a 200# “horse”) quarterly, or if I’ve got a viral thing going.
It’s got a safety profile better than Tylenol, I strongly believe based on the literature. Can’t be much harm. Big chunks of Africa take it for prophylaxis against African River Blindness. If it were harmful, we’d know about it.
yup
I read recently that metformin has bad effects on your mitochondria
Oh, I totally agree with you that it’s safe to take. I just haven’t for whatever reason.
Thanks for he info. I’ll check into that more. Do you use the “vet version”? (Dewormers for animals? I use the “horse version” or rather “cow and pig version” liquid ivermectin) Or the human form?
Yeah, the dose for cancer might be quite high. Maybe too he dose I was taking wasn’t even high enough for the sleepiness effect too. I’ll have to revisit it and try again I think.
I am on prevacid substitute which works very juch like comantidine does according,to the article at ncbi. It blocks or rather reduces acid formation in the stomach (other ulcer meds work to neutralize acid already produced)
I’ll have to research whether Prevacid has same anti-cancer abilities or not.
Prevacid i found out is a ppi (proton pump inhibitor) while cimetidine works differently, so likely not the same anticancer activities. I also found out prevscid can actuslly lead to heart problems and kidney problems, and other things. Been o. It for several decades now too. Ugh. My kidney is almost stage 4 failure too- I’m on a have to have a talk with doc I guess, see if there is a safer alternative I can use.
It’s not the acid reducing effect that makes Cimetidine anticancer, it’s because of its affect on regulatory T-cells.
Treg cells are immunosuppressive and generally suppress or downregulate induction and proliferation of effector T cells. Cimetidine interferes with Treg cells so the effector T-cells can be fully unleashed. It’s unlikely Prevacid would have similar effect.
Thanks- there are also some pretty big differences in how they both work too I found out. Looks like ppi’s like prevacid are also not a good drug to be on unless He condition is so severe that nothing else works- weighing the risk agaisnt the benefit sort of drug.
Im wondering thouh where cimetidine helps T-cells do their thing, hst if someone has an autoimmune problem that might not be a good thing? (Being that autoimmune diseases attack the body using the body’s own defences agaisnt itself)?
My sister has bad acid reflux and has been on a ppi for a very long time. I’ve warned her of the long term consequences but she claims nothing else works for her. I’ve seen a bunch of YouTube videos of people using alternative means of controlling acid reflux, but not sure if those methods work for everyone. But I would recommend getting off those ppi’s if possible.
Yeah if you have autoimmune issues you might want to be careful using Cimetidine. Tregs help keep autoimmunity in check.
Fenbendazole is mostly for dogs, if I understand correctly, not for horses even though both are mammals. I don’t know the reason why since its cancer suppression was first observed on lab mice.
I use its well known vet version caĺled Panacur in 500mg pills, split in 2 over two days (250mg/day) at the beginning of every month. No side effect, as expected given the testimonies I’ve read.
For cancer cure, there is Joe Tippins’s protocol, where Fenbendazole is taken with another supplement (CDB, quercetin...) to enhance absorption.
There are variants of this dewormer for human like abendazole or menbendazole but I suspect they have been made by big pharma to have less effect on cancers than fenbendazole.
Thanks for the info- I see a couple of pet products on amazon- Gonna grab some before they up the prices of it like they did for ivermectin- used to buy ivermectin for about $3 a tube, but after it became popular, it went up to around $10-12 or so dollars for same amount-
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