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The GUILD - 7-3-02 - Countdown to Fourth of July Festivities Thread II
7-02-2002

Posted on 07/03/2002 8:14:30 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

Avoid the rush, and get all your holiday cookout necessities today!
Are you ready for some grillin'?


Grill... check!


Something to grill ... check!


Whew, it's hot out here! Something cold to drink ... check!

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And now for the all-important safety message:

*Keep hot foods hot and cold foods cold. At temperatures of 50 to 125 F, most bacteria can grow and some produce poisons that may cause illness.
* In preparing chicken, egg, or meat salad, refrigerate it as soon as possible. Try to prepare it as close to picnic time as you can. Then, keep these foods cold right up until the time you serve them.
* For foods that are to be served cold, such as meat or poultry salads, make sure you prepare them with cold ingredients. For example, the cooked chicken for chicken salad should be allowed to cool before it's added to the salad.
* Thermos bottles can keep stews or drinks at the right temperature for hours. If foods are poured boiling hot into sterilized bottles, there shouldn't be any problem. Coolers, insulated containers and styrofoam chests are perfect for keeping food cold when teamed with ice cubes, dry ice or reusable gel cold packs. Small, airtight containers and aluminum foil will keep foods fresh inside the larger containers.
* For packing the food to take outdoors, put foods in the cooler in the order opposite to using them. This means that the food you'll need last will be packed first, at the bottom. Take out the food only as you need it. Repack the container carefully and keep it in a shady spot to keep the chest cool.
* Try to have plenty of ice on hand and in the cooler to keep your food cold and safe all day.
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Recipes and picnic suggestions are welcomed today. Allrighty, then, let's celebrate our nation's birthday!


1 posted on 07/03/2002 8:14:30 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Billie; mountaineer; Timeout; ClancyJ; daisyscarlett; LBGA; Rheo; retrokitten; whoever; CIApilot; ..
Good Morning!
2 posted on 07/03/2002 8:18:27 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Great morning to you, too! Can I bring over my last post from the previous thread? Everyone should read this and feel especially proud this 4th of July:
______________________________ _________________

THANK YOU, AMERICA

By Jan Nowak
The Washington Times
Wednesday, July 3, 2002

This July 4, many Americans may feel baffled and disappointed by the waves of anti-Americanism sweeping through countries that, not too long ago, were either saved or helped by the United States. Allies such as France and Great Britain and former enemies such as Germany and Japan benefited greatly from America's generosity and support in their time of need, as did Belgium, Holland, Italy, Russia, Poland, South Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan and others. Without the United States, some of these countries might no longer exist.

Those of us who remember and remain grateful should no longer remain silent. For people like me -- and there are millions of us -- this Fourth of July is a good opportunity to say, "Thank you, America."

My old country, Poland, is a good example. I was born 89 years ago on the eve of World War I in Warsaw, when Poles were forced to live under the despotic rule of the Russian czars. In 1917 Woodrow Wilson made the restoration of Polish independence one of his 14 conditions for peace. If it had not been for Wilson, Poland might have disappeared forever from the map of Europe. The United States did not have any strategic or economic interests in this remote eastern part of the European continent. But thanks to America, the ambitions of the Hohenzollern empire to dominate all of Europe were thwarted.

The war in Poland did not end in 1918, however. For six more years, the wheels of war rolled over the Polish countryside as Poles fought to repel the invasions of the Red Army. The country was left in ruins. Food was scarce. The undernourished population was hit by epidemics of typhoid and Spanish flu.

I belong to the generation of children of this era, the early 1920s, who were saved by the benevolent intervention of the United States, in the person of the future president Herbert Hoover. As a private citizen, Hoover organized the emergency supplies of food, medicine and clothing that saved a starving and sick nation. I still remember the tin boxes inscribed "American Relief Committee for Poland."

The Polish state survived, but with no economic resources, no reserves of gold or foreign currencies. Roaring inflation had brought the country to the verge of collapse. The United States came forward once again, providing the Dillon loans, which helped stabilize the Polish economy.

Following the surrender of France in 1940, Hitler was only one step from victory. The United States, by joining Great Britain as it faced alone the greater might of Nazi Germany, and at enormous sacrifice of young American lives, saved European civilization and its values. It is known that Hitler's postwar plans called for elimination of Poland's educated classes, while the rest of the population was to become slave workers. Once again, the United States saved the lives of millions. I am grateful to have been one of them.

Tragically, the defeat of Nazi Germany did not bring freedom to the nations of east and central Europe. Hitler's tyranny was replaced by Stalin's terror. It was the United States that contained the Soviet Union's drive for domination of Europe. It understood before others that the Cold War would be a struggle for human minds.

One of its major weapons in this war was the skillful use of radio. As a former radio operator with the Polish underground and later a broadcaster with the BBC foreign service, I was recruited in the early 1950s to start the Polish service of Radio Free Europe (RFE). No country but the United States would launch or could have launched such an ambitious undertaking, broadcasting from dawn to midnight.

RFE destroyed the monopoly of the Communist public media and frustrated the efforts of the Soviet Union to isolate the satellite countries from the outside world. Citizens of these countries had only to tune in to the RFE frequency to learn what their governments were attempting to hide from them. People were able to get the information they needed to form their own views, even if they could not speak them. Their minds remained free.

Workers' strikes were banned under communism. So when Polish shipyard workers in Gdansk, led by Lech Walesa, defiantly called a strike in August 1980, the government immediately ordered a news blackout. But within hours, the whole country knew of the workers' resistance and related developments from RFE broadcasts. Because the Communists feared a general strike might follow, they quickly agreed to a compromise settlement with the shipyard workers. Solidarity was born.

The following year, however, the Communist leader, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, sought to destroy the movement by imposing martial law. The United States responded by applying a sophisticated carrot-and-stick policy in which Jaruzelski was never forced into a position where he had nothing to lose and nothing to gain. Economic sanctions were imposed, but economic assistance was promised. The patient and consistent application of this policy over the next eight years resulted in the survival of Solidarity, which emerged triumphant in 1989.

News of this victory spread rapidly to East Berlin, Prague, Budapest, Bucharest and Sofia, as well as Moscow, through the broadcasts of RFE, Radio Liberty, RIAS (Radio in the American Sector, Berlin) and the Voice of America. The overthrow of Poland's Communist dictatorship inspired millions throughout the Soviet orbit, unleashing an avalanche that brought down the Berlin Wall and led to the reunification of Germany, the self-liberation of the nations of east-central Europe and eventually the disintegration of the Soviet Union.

Poland formed the first non-communist government in the former Soviet empire. But the nation's economy remained a disaster area. Again the United States came to the rescue. Poland's first democratic government and the nation's economy were saved by U.S. leadership in proposing and aggressively promoting an emergency international financial assistance package.

In the spring of 1998, I watched from the public gallery of the U.S. Senate as it ratified the admission into NATO of Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic. For the first time in its history, my old country was not only free but also secure.

Thank you, America.

[he writer directed the Polish service of Radio Free Europe for 25 years.]

3 posted on 07/03/2002 8:25:12 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
I was just about to bring it over myself. :-)

I must go gang, I get to go to the opening of The Power Puff Girl Movie!

So have a great day all! See you soon.

4 posted on 07/03/2002 8:29:18 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Gotta link something HLL has posted, What is an American?
5 posted on 07/03/2002 8:33:44 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty; lodwick; Timeout
Bye, Betty. Have fun.

I'm off to Tennessee for the holiday.

If I see Tipper, I'll...well, let's hope I don't run into the Goreskis.

The kids are chanting, "We're off to Grandma's house, we're off to Grandma's house...!"

LOL! Have a safe 4th, everyone!

6 posted on 07/03/2002 8:35:57 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty; All
With regard to holiday grilling, I have to update my post 37 from yesterday's thread. I made the rub, more or less (I didn't have all the spices on hand, so skipped the coriander and onion powder, added cayenne and curry), smeared it all over pork tenderloins, gave them a spritz of veg. oil spray (e.g. PAM) and grilled them. Delicious!
7 posted on 07/03/2002 8:39:17 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Dry rubs are great. I always dry rub my steaks and ribs. The salt brings out the natural juices and tenderizes the meat. Make sure you leave the rub on for at least 30 minutes. I am so glad that people are finally learning about a dry rub.
8 posted on 07/03/2002 8:54:33 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: BigWaveBetty; All
Hi, ya'll! Great 4th of July hints, graphics, etc! If it hasn't been mentioned yet, I think just put "Call Lodwick" at the top of the list should take care of everything! He's such a great grill cook and bartender, etc! Come say hello to him today as FR's Finest FReeper of the day - Daisy did an excellent profile of him! Come over and embarrass him some more! LOL!
9 posted on 07/03/2002 9:08:41 AM PDT by Billie
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To: mountaineer
Thanks for the excellent link @ 5.
As the President has said, "out of the
tradegy that was 9.11, may come some
great good for the future."

I feel this here at Free Republic
on most all the threads where the
posters are people who
pay to support this forum.
10 posted on 07/03/2002 9:17:02 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
Hello all. I am taking action on my electricity woes. My power went out again last night at 8:15 pm. I immediately called the power company and spoke to a live human being. I asked what the problem was and why I can't expect to have electricity in my home 24 hours a day.

She said that the lines can't handle it when people come home from work on a hot night. I told her that they should expect people to come home from work and to plan accordingly. I am not going to put up with their crap anymore. I sat in a 96 degree pitch black house and have to have people call me to wake me up so I can go to my office. Normally I would be working out of my home office, but since it's in total darkness and I have no power for my computers, it kind of cramps my style.

This weekend I will be walking my neighborhood with a petition to keep the power on. I have also acquired the CEO of Detroit Edison's home phone. If my power goes off, he is going to get a personal call from me. I will do it daily until I have power. If I go to jail, at least I will have lights and air conditioning.

I will also send him these half cooked lemon poppyseed muffins that never stood a chance when the lights went out.

Pray for the power this weekend. It's a scrorcher, and frankly, I think it's making me ill. I can't sleep at night due to this heat and I can't eat with rotting food and no stove.
11 posted on 07/03/2002 9:18:37 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I can't believe it's gotten that bad! I'd be parked on their doorstep and calling the mayor every hour on the hour till they promise uninterupted service. Who do they think they are, Gray Davis?
12 posted on 07/03/2002 9:32:18 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I would be livid!

Is it too much to ask, provide the service they're supposed to?

I would total up the dollar amount of your food loss, and present them with a bill.
Bug whoever you must to get this taken care of.

13 posted on 07/03/2002 9:39:45 AM PDT by pubmom
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14 posted on 07/03/2002 9:44:11 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty; Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer; Timeout
I thought some of you might be interested in the update on Eric that I posted on the USO, ATRW and FR's Finest threads this morning:

Good morning, all!

We have gotten a letter, and a phone call since I last reported on Eric's boot camp experience, so I thought I'd give you a brief report.

He's one third of the way done, and says time is flying. Yesterday the whole squad had to run a mile, and they were told that the first 5 men in would get phone privileges that night, and he said when he heard that, he had to win! He came in third, and called us last night! It was incredibly good to hear his voice, and his enthusiasm for what he was doing!

He's a little homesick, but says he tries not to think about home very much. He says he misses things like being able to jump in his car and go where he wants to, or just grabbing a can of pop when he wants to. He also said that you never realize what you have until you are away from it, and he thanked us for our love (OK, I cried a whole lot about that one!.

He loves the physical stuff, especially the obstacle course where he had to climb a wall with a rope. He also mentioned crawling around in wet sawdust as a fun activity (??). He's excited that they're going to learn hand-to-hand combat on Thursday, and will soon learn how to fire their M-16's (that's what he's been waiting for!).

He did say that because it was so hot today that they didn't do their PT outside......some humanity has obviously crept into the military! He also said that they would be marching up Misery and Agony hills (about 15K, I think), but they wouldn't be forced to run because some people had died doing it (good thinking).

The food, he says, is good.....they have chow 3 times a day, but he said he's never really full.......of course he's always eaten like a horse anyway (6'1", 155 lbs!), and with all the physical exertion, there would be no way to fill the boy up. They spend a whole lot of time cleaning, and a few days ago had to change from BDU's (Battle Dress Uniforms) to PT's (Physical Training) in 5 minutes, then line up, then change back to BDU's then line up, then change change back to PT's run upstairs and line up, then run downstairs, change back to BDU's and line up........he said he'd never worked up a sweat before changing clothes!

His Drill Sergeants (with one exception) have been 'awesome' (his word), and he hasn't been yelled at individually yet (who would yell at such a good boy anyway? LOL!)

He has been able to continue to witness to lots of the guys around him, and really feels as though he has grown spiritually because of this experience. He says he can feel all the prayer for him (thank you, friends!!!), and wants us to keep praying for the guys he's been able to share his faith with.

Praise the Lord for his faithfulness!!

15 posted on 07/03/2002 9:45:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer
I am so glad that people are finally learning about a dry rub.

Uh, this is gonna be an interesting thread.

16 posted on 07/03/2002 9:47:34 AM PDT by MaeWest
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To: Iowa Granny
I will expand on the torte.

Use a frozen Sara Lee Pound cake-- partially thaw.

Slice it thinly, maybe 5 slices horizontally with dental floss.

Take whipped cream or dream whip and slit it into two bowls.

In one bowl add cocoa powder or a flavored instant coffee. You can also add a liquor of you like.

leave one small bowl of plain whipped cream.

I also use fresh raspberries or raspberry jam.

Spread the whipped cream between the layers. Alternate the plain and flavored creams. I like to put my raspberries in the middle layer. Cover the whole cake with the chocolate/coffee cream.

Put that sucker in the fridge so it stiffens. Serve and watch your guests ooo and ahh over your fabulous cooking skills.
17 posted on 07/03/2002 10:02:19 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: MaeWest; Hillary's Lovely Legs; ohioWfan
I'm sorry, that just rubbed me the wrong way! ;^)

Seriously, though, HLL is right - the dry rub made the pork so tender, like buttah.

OWF - it is great to hear how well Eric is doing. You won't mind if we're proud of him, too, will you?

18 posted on 07/03/2002 10:02:21 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
You won't mind if we're proud of him, too, will you?

Not one teeny bit, mountaineer! Thanks!

19 posted on 07/03/2002 10:13:22 AM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
What a fantastic update. You have good reason to be so proud of him.
20 posted on 07/03/2002 10:16:15 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Wow, that sounds GREAT!! I'm so sorry about your power difficulties. I don't know how you are making it. One would think that power consumption would be less in the evening since people aren't at work running all those office computers and lights and such.

I know that down here HL&P says to run all of you dishes, laundry, etc. in the evening b/c power is cheaper and plentiful then.
21 posted on 07/03/2002 10:19:06 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: ohioWfan
Thanks for the update on your fine son. I am so glad they aren't making him train in this heat.
22 posted on 07/03/2002 11:23:20 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Iowa Granny; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Sounds so good! I used to do a similar emergency dessert with cream cheese blended with sugar and Grand Marnier between the layers.
23 posted on 07/03/2002 11:26:50 AM PDT by MaeWest
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To: Aggie Mama
Since we're sharing recipes, here's one that I make every 4th that my family loves:

Stars and Stripes Tart

Crust

1 c. butter or margerine, softened
1/2 C. sugar
2 1/2 c. all-purpose flour
1/3 c. milk

Filling

3 (3 oz.) pkgs. cream cheese, softened
3/4 c. powdered sugar
1 tsp grated orange peel
1 tbsp orange juice

Topping

1 pt. strawberries, hulled, sliced, or raspberries
1/4 c. apple jelly, melted (optional)

Heat oven to 400. In large mixer bowl combine sugar and butter. Beat at medium speed, scraping bowl often, until light and fluffy. (1 to 2 minutes). Add flour and milk; beat at low speed until well mixed. Press dough on bottom and 1/2" up the sides of a 13x9" baking pan. Prick bottom with fork. Bake for 14-18 minutes, or until lightly browned. Cool.

In small mixer bowl combine all filling ingredients; beat at medium speed, scraping bowl often, until light and fluffy (1-2 min.).

Spread over top of cooled crust. Refrigerate 1 hour or until firm. Just before serving, arrange fruit on filling in the design of an American flag using strawberry slices for stripes (or raspberries) and blueberries for stars. If you wish, you can brush the fruit and filling with melted apple jelly.

This dessert serves 12

24 posted on 07/03/2002 11:31:29 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: pubmom
Looks yummy, I'll make it tomorrow. =)
25 posted on 07/03/2002 11:48:54 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Aggie Mama; *The GUILD
Click for tunes A nice place to visit, and leave the window open. Someone to watch over me...lalala
26 posted on 07/03/2002 12:14:58 PM PDT by lodwick
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27 posted on 07/03/2002 12:30:05 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I think you are spreading it to my house. I was reading this afternoon- putting off getting ready to go to work- and the power went out. I live in a pretty big condo complex (about 30 buildings/24 units in each building) and the power went out to the whole complex. It's nice and toasty and humid in Chicago like I am sure it is on the other side of the lake. I just kept the blinds and curtains closed hoping that it would keep the place cool. I turned the air on full blast so when it came back on it would cool the place off. Hopefully, I won't have 2 kitty-cicles when I get home!
28 posted on 07/03/2002 12:36:44 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: mountaineer
I just saw your post about Martha Stewart and Barbara Striesand. Okay, do we need any proof she is evil? Who has never had Cool-Whip? Sorry, I don't trust anyone who openly admits they have never had cool whip yet decorates thier house with things from the flea market.
29 posted on 07/03/2002 12:42:31 PM PDT by retrokitten
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http://www.cob1.addr.com/KMA.j pg
30 posted on 07/03/2002 12:45:59 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: retrokitten
I didn't believe her for a minute. When she's all alone in one of her many houses, just Martha and the doggies, she probably makes a big dish of Jello, slathers Cool Whip all over, just sticks her face right in and starts slurping. It's a good thing.
33 posted on 07/03/2002 1:18:46 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I saw that picture of her at the flea market and I totally agree with you. I have a great recipe for a frozen Cool Whip desert that my mom used to make when we were kids. I don't even know what it's called, we just always call it "that cool whip desert." I don't have it handy but let me see if I can remember it off the top of my head, it's really easy.

Pink Cool Whip Desert
1 bar of cream cheese (not fat free, for some reason it makes it taste weird, reduced fat is okay)
1 table spoon mayo
1 tub of cool whip (8 ounce?)
1 small jar marachino cherries
1 can pineapple tidbits drained
1/2 bag of the multi-colored mini-marshmallows

Cream the cream cheese then add mayo and 2 teaspoons of cherry juice (or more as desired). Mix in the cherries, pineapple, and half bag of mini-marshmallows. Mix thoroughly. Last add in Cool-Whip. (None of the measurements are set in stone and can be adjusted to your taste. I like to add extra cherries and reduce the pineapple, but that's just me.) Can be either poured into a jello mold and frozen over night or chilled and served as a desert salad. Personally, I like it as a desert salad, it gets really hard when it's frozen and kind of hard to eat.

34 posted on 07/03/2002 1:37:30 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: dr.j'sfirst
You have freepmail, we will get those pictures posted today.
35 posted on 07/03/2002 1:55:17 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: BigWaveBetty; CheneyChick; Utah Girl; Aggie Mama; The Energizer
To all Bare Escentuals Girls.... My Big Bucket of Bisque came today!!! WHAT A VALUE! It's huge. This is a lifetime supply and it comes with the brush all for $20.91. This is what you use for a shadow, shadow base, and concealer.

Big Bucket O'Bisque. It's currently waitlisted.

36 posted on 07/03/2002 2:00:39 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: mountaineer
OMG - too funny on Martha's cool whipping it. Thanks for the mental picture. ;-)
37 posted on 07/03/2002 2:35:48 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Just clinging to the fantasy that she's "regular folks," just like us.
38 posted on 07/03/2002 2:40:39 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Way to go HLL! You got the power CEO's home number. Yes!!! Now we're cookin' with gas. Go get him. Don't let that lousy slime sleep a wink -- call him every hour on the hour when your power's out -- yes I mean into the wee hours of the mornin'. You're up so why shouldn't he be up?

Let me know if you need a wake-up call. -- E
39 posted on 07/03/2002 2:43:05 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: ohioWfan
Thank you for sharing about your son and his military experiences. It bring home to me how much in awe I am of these wonderful people who are laying it out daily for my life and for my country. Big hug for you and dad and prayers for Eric.


40 posted on 07/03/2002 2:47:16 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
Steve Fossett just landed in Australia!! The first man to go around in a balloon. Hooray for the Americans!!
41 posted on 07/03/2002 2:57:54 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; *The GUILD
QUOTES & TOASTS of the DAY - Patriotic Toasts for the 4th

"May our great men be good, and our good men be great!"

"May noise never excite us to battle, or confusion reduce us to defeat."

"Here's to the Army and Navy, And the battles they have won,

Here's to America's colors---The colors that never run!"



42 posted on 07/03/2002 3:11:25 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: sleepless

Does anyone in America "get" soccer?

43 posted on 07/03/2002 3:37:50 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Or its fans?
44 posted on 07/03/2002 3:47:27 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
...soccer...

Is that what that was? Looks like they trained in New Orleans at Mardi Gras.

45 posted on 07/03/2002 4:07:57 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
I am cracking up! Thanks for this observation. ;-)
46 posted on 07/03/2002 4:11:54 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
OK, here's a lady who swears her cat is gay....

Austin the cat
Watch out, Fred!

GAY CAT PAGE

47 posted on 07/03/2002 4:31:27 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
The internet is going to be the death of us all - thanks for this one. ;-)
48 posted on 07/03/2002 4:54:37 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Oh no, looks like you are going to join Codebreaker in " Too many Bare Nipples Land".
49 posted on 07/03/2002 4:57:09 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: lodwick; Timeout
Austin the gay cat

OMG! That's the name of my soon to be ex-son-in-law! HA! HA! HA! HA!

I knew it! I knew it!

50 posted on 07/03/2002 5:30:41 PM PDT by Teacup
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