The GUILD 7-22-2002 Register to Vote!

[MaeWest]

Stephie's last BF was a circus trainer and she travelled Europe in an Airstream camper with him...

Whew! That conjures up some pretty unattractive visuals.

[Endeavor]

OK, I'll give it a go:

1) All the TIPS program aimed to do was to get people like the postman and the UPS guy and the cable guy to notice odd things in the neighborhoods they work in - like dirty old men in run down cars scoping out the little girls playing in the park by the school or large deliveries of fertilizer or Ahab the Arab cleaning his AK-47's on the porch. It was not asking them to peak through the windows. It was an honest attempt at utilizing people who are in our neighborhoods every day to be alert -- which is, by the way, something everyone of us has a responsibility to be right now - more alert to the things going on around us and more willing to get involved.

We are under attack. We are in a war. These people, who would call in a tip to TIPS, would not be ratting out your jewish doctor because he's jewish, or accusing HLL of robbing the Zales jewelry store just because she happens to have a closet or two full of jewelry (or shoes). They wouldn't be hauling Teacup off to the big house because she favors one of her pups a tad more than the other 3, and they wouldn't turn me in because I wash and wax my car only once a year.

IMHO, you are overreacting.

Now lets talk about Ian - the tv tonight said that his parents are filthy rich - Newport, Rhode Island kind of rich and that Chelsea marrying Ian would be like moving on up from the Wal Mart to Tiffany's.

We're supposed to expect a wedding for next summer. Oh and they said that he'd been raised by his parents to become a Senator or policy wonk or diplomat. God help him if he's foolish enough to marry into this family. A Clinton pink slip usually comes with a .38.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Thanks for the attempt to talk me out of my "funk". I do understand about people keeping an eye on things and reporting in things that might make us suspect someone is a terrorist or a child abuctor. I am all for that. But whenever the next Tyrant takes over, these same "programs" will - can be used - to give the Tyrant "tips" on people who are doing anti-Democratic party thingies - etc. It just makes me nervous...and it seems like every proposal is coming from the Commie Chinese handbook.

But, I will try to cool it.

[mountaineer]

Ack, ptooi. Glad I missed the intellectual hairball that was the Chelsea news, but I was at a meeting accepting a nomination as my county's GOP chair. Yikes! What was I thinking?!?

FWI, I agree that we should be concerned with any loss of freedom, however well-intentioned it may be during a dangerous time such as this, because every little bit we give up now we'll never see again. Once the gubmint takes something from us, or we give it anything - whether freedom, privacy, money, control over schools, regulation of the right to keep and bear arms, anything - it will never give it back.

[retrokitten]

Hi, all! Here is a link to story about Harrison Ford from one of our suburban Chicago newspapers. Seems Harry had a little cranky fit. Maybe his 50 pound girlfriend was getting on his nerves...Link ...Sorry if this has already been posted. Here's an little taste...

Ford is asked, over the course of his career, which of his roles is his favorite.

"I really don't have favorites," he says.

"Are they kind of like your children?" Love interjects.

Ford looks at Love with barely concealed disgust, sighs, then says, "I have said before, and you're forcing me to say again, that they're like your kids. You don't choose which is your favorite kid. It's really for the audience to judge. I don't have favorites."

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

By the way - I love President and Mrs. Bush and will never stop being grateful for their restoration of honor and dignity to the Presidency and to the position of First Lady. And, I like most Americans, will always cherish this President for his heart and soul and effort being poured out for our country, for our military, for all of us - with every ounce of strength he possesses. It has aged President Bush - these trials. He truly walks humbly with His God every day - and I will always and forever be grateful and happy that he has been and is our President. God bless him and the Vice President also - and Rummy - and all of them.

Now, if only somebody can protect this nation from these Demonrats and their media presstitutes who never get enough power, never get enough money, never get enough control, never get enough corruption, never get enough lawlessness, never get enough election fraud, never get enough abuse of power....etc, etc.

[mountaineer]

You don't choose which is your favorite kid.

That's the kind of thing you might expect a man dating a woman young enough to be his daughter to say. Maybe he was peeved because Calista asked to use the car and brought it back with an empty gas tank. Kids!

[retrokitten]

I do understand about people keeping an eye on things and reporting in things that might make us suspect someone is a terrorist or a child abuctor.

I don't think this is that different from what people do everyday. Doesn't everyone have a neighbor who seems to know everybodies business? It seems like alot of people will see somebody doing something they know is illegal, but will turn the other cheek, think that it is not important, or just don't want to get involved.

Personally, I watch all my neighbors and assume they are drug dealers until proven otherwise. My husband and I are convinced that we are going to see one of our neighbors on America's Most Wanted someday. We don't live in a bad neighborhood or anything, but I am keeping my eyes on everybody just in case.

[retrokitten]

I just re-read my post! I am such a huge nerd.

Over the weekend I saw a show about John Walsh on MSNBC. I had no idea that a man (I use the term 'man' loosely, he was in prision for raping and killing 5 other children) had confessed to killing his son, retracted the confession, then sent letters to him demanding $5000 to tell him where the rest of Adam was buried. There is a special place in hell for sick bastards like that.

[pubmom]

Actually, I can understand why he was annoyed after the interview began, those are some of the dumbest questions I have ever read. The interviewers should have done a little more homework on the film so they could ask intelligent questions.

[mountaineer]

Appropos of nothing, but posted just because I can, a reminder of the importance of sticking by one's story, no matter how incredible:

Example 1: When Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton visited the trendy Chelsea section of London in the 1970s, they decided they would give its name to the child they hoped to have, Chelsea Clinton said. "My parents were here during Christmas in 1978," the daughter of the former U.S. president said Monday as she visited the Chelsea Flower Show. "They were hoping to have a child and if it was a girl they said it would be called Chelsea. She continued, "They also loved the song `Chelsea Morning' by Joni Mitchell, which is great because I love my name. link

Example Deux: Chelsea Clinton revealed this week her loves for her namesake - Chelsea Football Club. I'd love to go to a game to watch my team Chelsea play", she told the Sunday Express at the weekend. "I know they are meant to be one of the best teams in the country and I feel pretty proud that we share the same name". The former president's 22-year-old daughter told of her interest in the footie (or "soccer") at the glamorous premiere of The Shipping News, staring Kevin Spacey, where she arrived at the Mayfair venue with boyfriend Ian Klause. Miss Clinton revelled that there was just one problem: "I wouldn't know how to go about organising a ticket," said the (ahem!) Oxford student. [Organising a ticket? Is that like buying a ticket?] link

I fear Chels may confuse her stories one day and claim to have been named after a football club, but I suppose "Chelsea F.C." is better than Buccaneers or Riverhounds as an inspiration for naming one's not-yet-conceived offspring.

[Utah Girl]

Chelsea has the dreaded "tell a lie to sound good to whatever audience you are pandering to at the moment." I remember when Hillary Clinton was proudly telling everyone that she was named after Sir Hillary whatever-his-last-name-is for being the first man to climb Mt Everest, later came out that she was born before the feat was completed. Oh, oops. But the Clintons adoring fans don't seem to notice the lies at all...

[pubmom]

No, you aren't a big nerd. I have lived in my neighborhood for years, and I know everyone. A few months ago, a new family moved in next door. The first problem I had was with their children. (No dad, by the way) They broke 3 limbs from my lilac tree, and began a deconstruction project on the elderly neightbor's sandstone wall. Whoever was in charge wasn't taking care of seeing what the lovelies were up to. Then there was the garbage, 17 lovely stinking bags at the side of the house. Then there was a confrontation that took place between the new neighbor and my best friend's mom. Her crime? She dared to look across the street while a truck came spinning through the neighbor's yard, tearing up the lawn. I think the words: "What the F*** are you looking at," were uttered. To make a long story short, I found out my new neighbor was out on parole, which she has now violated, and is back in the slammer. You are not unwise to keep an eye on things, you never know who is lurking about. This is going to sound bad to some, but I don't think this woman could have afforded to live in our neighborhood if she wasn't getting some really good assistance.(GRRRR)

[mountaineer]

You're right, Hillary Clinton claiming to have been named for Sir Edmund Hillary is a just another example. They lie just because they can, but I wonder why they think their audience gives a rat's patootie how they may have gotten their names. Just shows how little substance there is to them.

[Utah Girl]

Thanks for remembering Sir Edmund Hillary's name. I was soo worked up I couldn't remember it. And talk about having no substance. Janet Reno is running on the fact that SNL ran skits of her dancing in her basement. That and "its for the children." Ugh.

[BigWaveBetty]

Good Morning!

What a great thread! I think you should leave it up because unbelievable as it is there are people on this forum who are not registered to vote. Being so close to the 2002 elections we need to remind people. Especially the ones who shoot their mouth off around here and haven't voted in years or not registered at all.

Shame Shame Shame on them!!

[BigWaveBetty]

Student Gadfly Runs Afoul of American U.
Taping of Tipper Gore Brings Sanction

By Amy Argetsinger
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 22, 2002; Page B03

Even before the big dust-up at the Tipper Gore appearance, Ben Wetmore was a gadfly of some notoriety at American University. The poli-sci major from Texas had elbowed his way into the ranks of student government but ended up getting impeached after a dispute with fellow legislators. [snip]

[snip]"The idea that a student videotaping a public event would be taken outside, pinned to the ground and handcuffed, [then] be accused of an intellectual property violation is shocking," said Greg C. Luckianoff, a staff member with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, a Philadelphia-based advocacy group that has hired a lawyer for Wetmore. "This was just plain thuggishness." [snip]

[mountaineer]

Good morning. Another reminder - continue to write those letters to the editor! We discussed that at our county GOP meeting last night. People do read the letters in their morning papers, and there's so much disinformation out there (courtesty of Tommy Daschle, et al.) that we need to combat. Our Republican so-called leaders in Congress can be a bit spineless when it comes to standing up to the Dems and contradicting their lies, so it's up to us. Today's topic: lying about Bush and Cheney's ties to nasty corporations while Mrs. Daschle rakes in the dough and compromises airline safety.

[mountaineer]

All the news that's fit to print, and some that isn't:

Cindy Adams says, "The hospital where President Bush had his colonoscopy has released word that they did not find a single polyp. They did, however, find three more votes for Gore."

Maybe he's less of a Democrat than I thought: MAYOR Bloomberg, with two pals, insisting on paying the check at Palm West when the management tried to put their steaks and lobsters on the house Page Six

Gratuitous celebrity gossip from same source:

ANGELINA Jolie had better beware - Billy Bob Thornton's last ex-wife is now a nutty recluse. Pietra Cherniak, who divorced him in 1997, has fled L.A., cut and dyed her hair, and "removed her breasts" in an attempt to disappear, her former publicist, Edward Lozzi, told Wireless Flash. Cherniak once told reporters she was proud of her breast implants. No longer. But don't ask. As part of her settlement with Thornton, Cherniak agreed never to talk.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Congratulations on your election win!! County Chairman is a super big deal. Guilders are making a difference.