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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Dave_in_Upland
See my posting of the cross-exam in question.

BTW, it sounds like much more than the normal amount of hair one would encounter beween necklace and hair.

I wonder if they showed the jury the clump of hair? Do you have that testimony handy?

421 posted on 07/31/2002 4:48:05 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
never mind that between the cookie visit and bedtime and school she would have changed clothes numerous times--would dislodge a fiber.

If you read the testimony as to the fiber and hair you would not say this. It wasn't LOOSE. It was BOUND up in the hair which was STUCK to the necklace.

422 posted on 07/31/2002 4:48:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Tangled Up in Blue is a dylan song.

Should have been Tangled Up in Dull Orange.
423 posted on 07/31/2002 4:49:33 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
I meant they have no "personal vendetta", such as the Sabre Swingers, nosy Rosy neighbor, etc.

The BUGSPERTS, get paid either way their testimony turns out.
424 posted on 07/31/2002 4:49:50 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: nycgal
I would agree with that only if the hair was not also attached to her head.

Then we need to find out if testimony bears that out.

425 posted on 07/31/2002 4:50:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: nycgal
I was thinking the same thing!
426 posted on 07/31/2002 4:51:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: cyncooper
REDDEN: Okay, so was this spur of the moment or something you had planned?

Redden uttered the phrase and DW responded. Redden could have asked him, without being "descriptive", how he decided to take the MH out for the weekend.

427 posted on 07/31/2002 4:52:31 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: nycgal
Those fibers in the necklace haven't meant a whole lot to me.

It's been so obvious that kid hasn't had a lot of hygiene attention. Those fibers could have been on that necklace since the day she put it on.
428 posted on 07/31/2002 4:53:15 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: hoosiermama
Great minds :-)
429 posted on 07/31/2002 4:54:26 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: John Jamieson
Thanks, John. You are so right about the bug experts. The fact that Faulkner was Duseks witness won't be lost on the jury. I think Feldman will stress that fact!
430 posted on 07/31/2002 4:55:21 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: the Deejay
Too many people like to debate innuendo & speculation. Post #350

That kid's hair was FILTHY! Post #417

I think you forgot to say "in my opinion".

You'll notice I qualified my opinion by stating: her hair looks smooth to me.

So we disagree.

431 posted on 07/31/2002 4:55:26 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: the Deejay
The poor little thing's hair looked greasy. Even though her hair was straight it would have had a little more oomph to it if it was clean.
432 posted on 07/31/2002 4:56:52 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: nycgal
How about a fiber or two getting entangled in her necklace as she was pulling tops on and off?

Then how did those fibers get to DW's environment?

Except that wouldn't be the source because too many of the fibers were in his stuff to account for the fibers to come from her. It must be something he had in his house.

433 posted on 07/31/2002 4:58:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
I know clean well groomed hair when I see it, and I repeat,
that kid's hair was FILTHY! Of course it's "my opinion", did I say anyone else said it?

Take a closer look, yes it's smooth, but it's "smooth" from the greasys.

434 posted on 07/31/2002 4:59:30 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
Right, if anything, those two should have been leaning towards Dusek's Mysterious Non-existant Theory.

Ladies and Gentalman,

We don't know how, when, or where lovely Danielle died. And the reason we don't is that that Sneaky, Perverted, Child Raping, Child Killing, David Westerfield destroyed all the evidence. We know the evidence must have existed at sometime, but now it's gone. Who is the likely person to have destroyed our evidence? I simply ask you, who had BLEACH on their shopping list? I'm now counting on you to do the right thing in poor Danielle's memory and hang him. You owe it to her.
435 posted on 07/31/2002 5:00:59 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: nycgal
Exactly what I've been trying to say. Good heaven's! It's very easy to see it's greasy looking & hadn't been washed for days. EEEEEEWWWWWW
436 posted on 07/31/2002 5:01:37 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: UCANSEE2
If you read the testimony as to the fiber and hair you would not say this. It wasn't LOOSE. It was BOUND up in the hair which was STUCK to the necklace.

I have pointed that out repeatedly, so your insinuation I haven't read testimony I keep posting isn't necessary.

This sounds like it was a huge wad of hair and I don't believe she was walking around with a huge clump of hair like that.

The witness made it sound like it was out of the ordinary and Feldman didn't even attempt to ask questions to paint it as if it were.

437 posted on 07/31/2002 5:02:10 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Post #397. You didn't say "IMO".
438 posted on 07/31/2002 5:03:35 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: cyncooper
IIRC there were no exact matches on the fibers. I believe the testimony states that they were similar. And as we have seen in the photos (and comments) earlier in this thread quite questionable
439 posted on 07/31/2002 5:05:39 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: the Deejay
It makes me sick to think that anyone who didn't know me or my kid would get a hold of a picture of her and start making comments.

I am around kids Danielle's age all the time and I know the difference between clean and unkempt.

440 posted on 07/31/2002 5:06:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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