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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: cyncooper
Cyn I know you want it your way, BUT that's what the instructions to the jury includes. NO common sense JUST THE FACTS MAM! NO maybe if. ... No why didn't he tell us.... Decision based on the Facts "presented in COurt".

If you didn't do that at your trial you are in "contempt of court" If the defendant was found quilty and you admitted to that, he could be set free. I do not remember the legal term right now. It's latin. Be careful what you say in public about your trial.
521 posted on 07/31/2002 6:41:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: BARLF
Thanks, BARLF. Sounds like Damon is confused to me. But I've never believed anything he's said from the start.
522 posted on 07/31/2002 6:42:37 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit
"But I've never believed anything he's said from the start."


Nor have I. As well as all the Sabre Swingers/Vdams & co. I pegged them ALL as liars. So far, I've not been proved wrong.

523 posted on 07/31/2002 6:45:47 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: UCANSEE2
Your interpretation is incorrect. From the cross-exam by Feldman Jennifer Shen states:

A. WELL, I THINK THE FIBER CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG AS THE BODY WAS IN ITS RESTING LOCATION. THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THE FIBER WAS THERE FOR MUCH PRIOR TO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS TANGLED IN SUCH A LARGE WAD OF HAIR ON THE NECKLACE.

Now, read that carefully. The fiber "was tangled in such a large wad of hair on the necklace."

It is very clear.

524 posted on 07/31/2002 6:47:22 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Yes! That is his job to suggest a source (doubt) Done all the time. It made Dusek have to test a lot of fibers....But don't be surprised if somewhere in the closing arguments Feldy says "NOT EVERY SOURCE WAS TESTED" CHeck the testimony of the cross! Didn't he get stipulation that some but not all were tested? I haven't read it, but bet it's there somewhere.

That's how the game of COURT works. Yes it's a game..sort of like chess. CHECK and CHECK MATE! You get the other side to say what you need....Good lawyering!
525 posted on 07/31/2002 6:48:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: cyncooper
UCANSEE2 bid us all a goodnight & won't be back with us until tomorrow. Post 509.
526 posted on 07/31/2002 6:49:53 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: hoosiermama
What do your comments have to do with my post and facts???

It's not that I want it "my way", it's that I understand how certain testimony can be presented to a jury. The jury in this trial is free to take the fact that these fibers are similar to each other and conclude that is evidence that DW had Danielle with him that weekend.

(In addition to the other evidence, of course)

527 posted on 07/31/2002 6:50:45 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: hoosiermama
Oh, I don't begrudge Feldman doing that kind of argument and fully expect it.
528 posted on 07/31/2002 6:52:19 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: the Deejay
Thank you. I had already read that post.

I am confident he'll see my reply to him next time he is here.

529 posted on 07/31/2002 6:55:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
That is the final summation of Dusek. Dusek will try to say they are the same. However, Feldy will conteract that the testimony was "not a match" Again CHeck and Check mate!

Dusek will have to be very careful to stay within the testamony or find himself in contempt. That is why I believe DW may be quilty but the DA has not proven his case in court. Not very well played. Sacraficed his queen to no avail!
530 posted on 07/31/2002 6:56:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: cyncooper
What about the FACT, the dog(s) didn't find a FRESH TRACE of Danielle in or near the RV? And the FACT their handler cheated & lied simply because *he* wanted DW on trial? Huh, how 'bout *those* FACTS? What do you think the jury will do with those facts?
531 posted on 07/31/2002 6:57:06 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: hoosiermama
I agree with you. Also, if anyone is trying to mislead the jury, it's Dusek. As soon as he got the report from his own expert, Faulkner, this case should have been concentrated on finding out who REALLY killed Danielle. If she was killed and didn't die as the result of an accident, that is. IMO!!!!!
532 posted on 07/31/2002 6:57:24 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: the Deejay
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Hoosiermama, freepmail
533 posted on 07/31/2002 6:58:08 PM PDT by gigi
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To: hoosiermama
"Not a match", BIG DIFFERENCE, right there! All of the fibers are "similar." I'll bet cyncooper has the same "similar" fibers in her house. Maybe not the same colors......but "similar fibers."
534 posted on 07/31/2002 6:59:11 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: UCANSEE2
ONE hair found in sink trap. No attempt to identify if other hairs in sink, or whose they were, or whether Danielle's was first in/last in. Only that this 1 hair was there.

This just made me think. If there were more hair in sink drain, or other debris for that matter, wouldn't the ORDER of those items tell us how long it had been there?
IE if Jennifers, ex-GF, and THEN DVD's hair had been found in that order it would show that DVD had been in MH before the other two. If DW's hair, Jennifer's hair then DVD's hair were found she was in there more recently than Jennifer had last been.
Other question before fiber lady untangled hair/orange fiber did she take a digital photo of it?

535 posted on 07/31/2002 7:03:00 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: the Deejay
SWISS CHEESE mean anything to you. Dusek has lot's of hot air in holes. but no substance. I almost feel sorry for him.
Maybe that is why Mudd has been so supportive of him. He knows he's been "dun in". by the DA and LE both. I'd be madd as #3!! if I had that going on in my Court room.

OTOH, with the vacation etc. he may be "throwing the case" not a fair trial. Jury not kept away from media etc. All just to teach em a lesson..... He's in charge??
Is he taking the chess board and going home? JMO a being a bit of a devil advocate, of course!
536 posted on 07/31/2002 7:08:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Jaded
Hey, the Stealth Ninja site looks really good with the changes you made...BTTT....
537 posted on 07/31/2002 7:09:06 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: hoosiermama
Swiss Cheese for sure.

It's been so bloody obvious the judge has been so prejudice, I've never seen anything like it.

I'm so appalled at the judge from the prelim, I am really questioning the entire SD justice system, starting with LE.
538 posted on 07/31/2002 7:13:36 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
He may be too! Maybe Dusek is a nice guy and he doesn't like what others have done to him. Lean the scale of justice his way so they'll balance.
539 posted on 07/31/2002 7:16:19 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: the Deejay
What about the FACT, the dog(s) didn't find a FRESH TRACE of Danielle in or near the RV? And the FACT their handler cheated & lied simply because *he* wanted DW on trial? Huh, how 'bout *those* FACTS? What do you think the jury will do with those facts?

They may agree with you. I will not be upset by whatever the jury does.

No need to be upset with me for my opinion.

540 posted on 07/31/2002 7:17:27 PM PDT by cyncooper
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