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Saddam Regime Document: Saddam Ordered The Use of Chemical Weapons in Northern Iraq (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website about PreWar Iraq docments ^ | March 23 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 03/23/2006 11:38:46 AM PST by jveritas

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To: Ben Hecks; struwwelpeter

Thanks for the link to the 2003 thread....


41 posted on 03/23/2006 4:37:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

Thank you!!!!


42 posted on 03/23/2006 4:38:41 PM PST by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: jveritas

This is even more fun than Venona.

Of course, the MSM will claim that this document is so old that it hardly matters for the war.

After all, "everybody" knows that Sadaam gassed the Kurds. But by the time we invaded Iraq, Sadaam had gotten rid of all of these weapons, therefore, Bush lied.

The true significance of this document, however, is as a death sentence for Sadaam should one of the trials fail to produce such a result. This shows Sadaam ordering the gassing himself.

Draw and quarter him.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 4:38:46 PM PST by GEC
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To: doug from upland; jveritas

Great stuff here, Doug!


44 posted on 03/23/2006 4:39:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: jveritas

wow - bump.


45 posted on 03/23/2006 4:48:36 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: jveritas

It's dated 1987. Given the audio tapes discussed recently that are recorded conversations of Saddam saying that he didn't have WMDs (shortly before the start of the war) to his "advisors", I'd like to see something more recent.


46 posted on 03/23/2006 4:51:35 PM PST by Scutter
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To: jveritas
I need to find out what is the meaning of “AL ZAYEN” may be it is nerve agent or blistering agent, it an Arabic chemical word that I need to find out what it means..

Or maybe a 'blood agent.'

47 posted on 03/23/2006 4:52:53 PM PST by demlosers
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To: jveritas
"Special Amunition"... where have we seen that term before?

I think it was in a more recent translation of another doc. If this confirms "Special Amunition" = WMD then this could be something.

48 posted on 03/23/2006 5:33:25 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: jveritas

Please don't feel required to respond. You are giving enough of your time on this project as is. Some may complain about time frames as being to early on etc.. But the point is your work and others shall be accumulative in nature. As your lead to investigate these documents, they get archived at FR. So I only see your work as being worthwhile. For those that whine, perhaps they should attempt to wade through the public archives at the miliary site and others, and suggest just what ones should be a priority. They probably do not realize you must view these docs, and determine what ones may contain some usefull info. Hardly an easy task, and surely time consuming. So once again, thank you.


49 posted on 03/23/2006 5:58:58 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: justa-hairyape

Fascinating. My interpretation of the meaning of this... posted on
http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/

This is discussions with the internal top-level Iraqi regime, showing they knew that their numbers and reports to UN weapons inspectors were deceptive. And now, the rest of the story - part of that discrepancy was a volume of checmical weapons that were put to use against Iranians and Kurds. In other words, where did the chemical weapons go? Some were used to kill innocents, and the Iraqi regime would never admit it. Ask the victims of Hallabjah. They know.


50 posted on 03/23/2006 6:03:03 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Marine_Uncle; jveritas

"As your lead to investigate these documents, they get archived at FR. So I only see your work as being worthwhile. .... Hardly an easy task, and surely time consuming. So once again, thank you."

Dittos on this. This is valuable and important information to share, to tell the whole story. Thanks for your efforts.

Each piece of information adds to the truth.


51 posted on 03/23/2006 6:06:14 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: jveritas

Bravo, jveritas!


52 posted on 03/23/2006 6:09:36 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: WOSG
"Each piece of information adds to the truth. "
And each of us can help jveritas, as he has time to donate to this endeavor at what best documents may be worth looking at as their descriptions become available. Heaven only knows how long it may take to translate some of these things. I can see him looking at Arabic dictionaries to try to match up words not so frequently used in every day Arabic. It appears many of the documents are in Arabic form only. One cannot help but wonder if their publicity is being followed up by some folks who can find vetted translators, that can provide translations that would be entered into public archives. Obviously we must show patience.
I see this as a two edged sword. The issue is going to come up as we can imagine on the validy of translations. One could provide a truely smoking gun translation and find it will be challenged. Yea. I am thinking it to. At what level must a document be approved for public distribution. Guess only time will tell.
53 posted on 03/23/2006 6:25:56 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good catch on page nine. Perhaps we shall see it in english some time soon.


54 posted on 03/23/2006 6:27:25 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: ravingnutter
These documents are from 1987 and the actions by Saddam taken were well documented already. Basically, it is old news backed up by new documents.

It may be old news, but this is proof that Saddam personally ordered it.

55 posted on 03/23/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: jveritas

I know you're probably tired of hearing this, but thank you so much for this work.


56 posted on 03/23/2006 6:45:50 PM PST by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: jveritas

le bumpus!!


57 posted on 03/23/2006 7:14:58 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: WOSG

http://www.kdp.pp.se/old/chemical.html


58 posted on 03/23/2006 7:19:27 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: icwhatudo

"I think it was in a more recent translation of another doc. If this confirms "Special Amunition" = WMD then this could be something."

I just finished reading Georges Sada's book "Saddam's Secrets. In that book he referred to Special Amunition as Mustard gas and I believe Sarin.

He did specifically write that "Special Amunition" equalled WMD.


59 posted on 03/23/2006 8:32:22 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: doug from upland; All

You welcome :)


60 posted on 03/23/2006 8:47:23 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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