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What Wilson Didnít Say About Africa: Joseph Wilson's Silent Partners
Original FReeper research | 10/25/2004 | Fedora

Posted on 10/25/2004 12:32:12 PM PDT by Fedora

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1 posted on 10/25/2004 12:32:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Shermy; piasa; Liz; backhoe; christie; GailA; Alamo-Girl; stockpirate; philman_36; windchime; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 10/25/2004 12:33:49 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: mhking

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3 posted on 10/25/2004 12:39:30 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I noticed "I love my hairdo" Wilson was yanked from Kerry's website as a foriegn affairs advisor once the Senate Intelligence Committee issued its report. All I can say: never trust a "man" who spends too much time on his hair (Kerry, Ambulance chaser Edwards, Wilson, Joe "plugs" Biden, Clinton, Gary Hart, Trent Lott, McGreevey, Sharpton). It is usually an indication of metrosexuality, or worse.


4 posted on 10/25/2004 12:40:01 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Fedora

Bump for later read.


5 posted on 10/25/2004 12:43:50 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Fedora

Ping for home reading!!


6 posted on 10/25/2004 12:43:58 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (it's time to take on the media)
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To: Fedora; okie01; Thud; seamole; gaspar; Allan; marron; TrebleRebel; mrustow; ConservativeMajority; ..

Very interesting.

Strange Joe Wilson failed to mention his second wife at all in his book...

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7 posted on 10/25/2004 12:45:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: pissant

LOL! I've noticed that. . .


9 posted on 10/25/2004 12:52:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Shermy

"Strange Joe Wilson failed to mention his second wife at all in his book..."

It seems what Wilson doesn't say is often more revealing than what he does!


10 posted on 10/25/2004 12:53:38 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: bullseye876

Wilson will have his served with Niger mint tea. . .


11 posted on 10/25/2004 12:54:26 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: bullseye876

Better yet, throw Wilson in the pokie. He'll get to spend lotsa time doing his hair and wearing a dress to please his cellmate, Bruno.


12 posted on 10/25/2004 12:56:26 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Fedora

Wilson ran his company out of the offices of an investment company called Rock Creek Corporation. Rock Creek was controlled by Mohammed Alamoudi, whom Wilson had met in 1997 at a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group. Alamoudi was a member of the Saudi-Ethiopian Alamoudi dynasty, which was heavily invested in the segments of the African economy Wilson was seeking to penetrate. The Alamoudi-affiliated company Delta Services--a Swiss subsidiary of the Saudi company Delta Oil--handled Iraqi oil export contracts in 2000 and 2001 and was revealed in 2003 as a recipient of Iraqi Oil-for-Food vouchers channeled through Abu Abbas, a Palestinian terrorist with Iraqi connections.

= = = = =

Not that I needed any more evidence that Joe Wilson is an America-hating Liberal shrill.


13 posted on 10/25/2004 1:18:53 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: blam; Pikamax; parnasokan

Ping.


14 posted on 10/25/2004 1:32:18 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Magnificent! This is great work.

Keep it up.

15 posted on 10/25/2004 1:42:21 PM PDT by spottswoode
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To: Fedora

Was most interested in Hagel-connections--would like to see a bit more.


16 posted on 10/25/2004 1:47:18 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Fedora

GREAT post! Thank you!


17 posted on 10/25/2004 1:49:46 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Shermy
Strange Joe Wilson failed to mention his second wife at all in his book...

He didn't mention Miss Valerie???!!!

Or could it be that Mlle Jacquie was the one he omitted...???

18 posted on 10/25/2004 1:52:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MizSterious; cyncooper; EllaMinnow

Woohoo.....nail this guy good!


19 posted on 10/25/2004 1:54:10 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: spottswoode

Thanks!


20 posted on 10/25/2004 2:01:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Bookmarked


21 posted on 10/25/2004 2:07:37 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Mach9
I'm sure I've only scratched the surface of the Hagel connection here--I have a hunch about how he fits into things but I didn't have time to explore it fully before the election, so I left the article where I did. There have been a few FR threads on him:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=hagel

Another place to look for more information on where his vested interests lie is opensecrets.org:

http://www.opensecrets.org

22 posted on 10/25/2004 2:07:42 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: MizSterious

Thank you!


23 posted on 10/25/2004 2:08:17 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: okie01

" Mlle Jacquie " was his second wife. Valerie his third. So I've read...could there be more? :)


24 posted on 10/25/2004 2:11:55 PM PDT by Shermy
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for a later read


25 posted on 10/25/2004 2:13:37 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: okie01; Shermy
Valerie was his third wife. Jacqueline is the one he glosses over in his book. He mentions his break-up with his first wife, Susan, on p. 63. He introduces Valerie on p. 240 and marries her on p. 273. In between he makes a brief mention of Jacqueline on pp. 68-69 but leaves out key details (such as her name!):

Congo proved to be far more interesting than I expected. I had recently remarried--my new wife was a Frenchwoman who had been raised in Africa and had returned there to work with the French Ministry of Cooperation, the equivalent of our USAID.

His "new wife" is mentioned again briefly on 116 and 176 while Wilson is describing his experience in Iraq during the Gulf War. On 176 he mentions their marriage had always been shaky and was under increased stress after the Gulf War, when he was in Baghdad alone after she had been evacuated. Apart from that I can't find any other references to her.

26 posted on 10/25/2004 2:25:18 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora; Shermy
I was unaware of Susan.

Was she MI6, perchance?

27 posted on 10/25/2004 2:29:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Fedora; Shermy
I was unaware of Susan.

Was she KGB, perchance?

28 posted on 10/25/2004 2:30:29 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: BushisTheMan

The author could have mentioned that Abdurahman Alamoudi was Executive Director of the American Muslim Foundation (AMF). He began his career with the SAAR foundation (under investigation) of Herndon, Virginia and left in 1990 to found the AMF. He was also the Vice President of Taibah International Aid, whose founder was Abdullah Bin Laden, Osama's nephew. The Alamoudi family has been in bed with Islamists for years. Wheels in wheels.


29 posted on 10/25/2004 2:41:09 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: Fedora

Fedora, you have done yeoman's work here. I am downloading it in case Kerry gets in. Kerry's remark in the Blumenfield interview (WAPO June 3, 2003) that he wished there was a delete button on Lexis Nexis is not easily dismissed.

Kerry's aide bullying Sinclair network to prevent showing of "Stolen Honor" said, "They (Sinclair) better hope Kerry does not get in." does not augur well for any news source not approved by the Kerry administration.

Thanks for your hard work. b.


30 posted on 10/25/2004 2:43:26 PM PDT by Barset
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To: okie01; Shermy
On p. 33, he mentions that Susan's maiden name was Susan Otchis, she was from the San Fernando Valley area, and her family was Jewish. On 62-63 he mentions they split up around early 1985 while he was stationed in Burundi (which is where he had met Jacqueline, whom he married in July 1986). That's about all the background he gives on her in his book. A Los Angeles Times article from August 24, 1990, mentions she was living in the Los Angeles area at that time:

"Joe was used to the slower pace of small countries in Africa," said a friend who visited Wilson and his French-born wife, Jackie, in Iraq. . .Born in Connecticut, Wilson spent most of his teen-age years abroad. His father was a journalist overseas, mostly in Paris, where the younger Wilson learned the language and developed a love of everything French. According to Bryant, Wilson began calling California home after receiving a bachelor's degree in history from UC Santa Barbara. His two children by a previous marriage live in the Los Angeles area, and his mother in Palm Springs.

31 posted on 10/25/2004 2:50:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: BushisTheMan

Fits right in with the French Weasels.


32 posted on 10/25/2004 2:56:11 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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To: gaspar
The author could have mentioned that Abdurahman Alamoudi was Executive Director of the American Muslim Foundation (AMF). . .

Yep!--thanks for bringing that up. I didn't elaborate on that for the sake of keeping the length down, but that's what I was alluding to here:

Abdurahman Alamoudi, a prominent American Muslim lobbyist

Also, in relation to Abdullah bin Laden, Mohammed Alamoudi sat with a "Shafig Mohammed bin Laden" on the board of Worldwide News, Inc. 1510 H St., N.W., Washington, DC 2005.

33 posted on 10/25/2004 2:57:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Barset

Thanks!--had a lot of help from my fellow FReepers.

I hadn't heard Kerry's remark on Lexis-Nexis, but that does seem to be their M.O. The Alamoudis have also managed to repress some articles about them.


34 posted on 10/25/2004 3:20:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
On p. 33, he mentions that Susan's maiden name was Susan Otchis, she was from the San Fernando Valley area, and her family was Jewish.

She was Mossad, then...

35 posted on 10/25/2004 3:21:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Fedora

Thank YOU. I'll check both.


36 posted on 10/25/2004 3:23:04 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Fedora
His father was a journalist overseas, mostly in Paris, where the younger Wilson learned the language and developed a love of everything French.

That almost says it all. Great article!

37 posted on 10/25/2004 3:23:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Fedora

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 10/25/2004 3:25:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Fedora

I looked in your catalog of information on Wilson, I may have missed the article but, did you read the Commentary about Wilson from The Washington Times in July of this year about 'YELLOW CAKE'?


39 posted on 10/25/2004 3:35:12 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: okie01

LOL! I don't know if she was or not, but it seems like he had a thing for girlfriends in the spy business.


40 posted on 10/25/2004 3:35:40 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
This stuff drives me crazy. These do not describe the same person.
Which one is myth, and why?

LA Times, Aug 24, 1990:

Born in Connecticut, Wilson spent most of his teen-age years abroad. His father was a journalist overseas, mostly in Paris, where the younger Wilson learned the language and developed a love of everything French. According to Bryant, Wilson began calling California home after receiving a bachelor's degree in history from UC Santa Barbara.
Financial Times, Oct 4, 2003 p13
The son of journalists, Mr Wilson was raised in California and graduated from the University of California, Santa Barbara - a place with its share of people who fit Mr Wilson's description of himself as "a former hippie, surf bum and ski bum".

41 posted on 10/25/2004 3:37:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"That almost says it all."

LOL!


42 posted on 10/25/2004 3:39:09 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: pbrown

I've probably read it if it was posted on FR but I didn't include that one in my notes. Do you have a link?


43 posted on 10/25/2004 3:42:35 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: calcowgirl

Maybe he spent most of his teenage years abroad because being French California was "abroad" to him? :)


44 posted on 10/25/2004 3:44:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I got this from the paper when I used to read papers.http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20040719-084057-3820r.htm


45 posted on 10/25/2004 3:48:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: Fedora

Seems like the c.i.a. dropped the ball on this one as well.


46 posted on 10/25/2004 3:50:47 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: Fedora
This is remarkably well done, as good or better than most investigative reporting. I had no idea about Wison's Francophilia or his investments and business deals. My only suggestions would be to look at Wilson's foundation and do more for the sake of readability and clarity, such as subheads, stronger chronology, and more transition and summary sentences.
47 posted on 10/25/2004 4:09:01 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: pbrown

"Seems like the c.i.a. dropped the ball on this one as well."

That's another thing you have to wonder about. . .

Thanks for the link!


48 posted on 10/25/2004 4:11:59 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Rockingham

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I rushed a bit to get this out there before November 2, but ideally given more time I'd have included a chart and timeline to summarize some of the interconnections between various players and the chronological correlation between Wilson's actions and broader developments.


49 posted on 10/25/2004 4:16:39 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

You're welcome.


50 posted on 10/25/2004 4:35:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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