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NIGERGATE: THE AFRICAN CONNECTION TO THE ISLAMIC ATOM BOMB
IL GIORNALE ^ | November 30, 2005 | Gian Marco Chiocci

Posted on 11/30/2005 12:25:59 PM PST by parnasokan

NIGERGATE: THE AFRICAN CONNECTION TO THE ISLAMIC ATOM BOMB

The following piece by Chiocci of Il Giornale is incredible. Not only was the controversial «father» of Pakistan’s nuclear program in Niamey at the very same time Saddam’s emissaries were present but he had been running a «nuclear DIY Gran Bazaar» under the noses of the French Secret Services. Chiocci’s article is yet another piece of a puzzle that is becoming more and more complex by the day. A puzzle that raises a number of questions as to who knew exactly what and when.

-- ARTICLE BEGINS -- Uranium from Niger for the Islamic Atom Bomb By Gian Marco Chiocci Washington, November 30, 2005 The controversial «father» of Pakistan’s nuclear program was in Niamey the very same days in which Saddam’s emissaries were present.

The network of Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan is a complex puzzle of shadow companies, straw men, university brains, religious individuals, businessmen, military and spies belonging to a government that continues to claim that it knows nothing, has never known anything, about the traffic of centrifuges and know-how linked to the Islamic bomb. Despite the arrest of the dispenser of atomic favours the organisation can still boast of ties throughout the world, but it’s in Africa, host to Islamic fundamentalism, that the situation seems to have escaped the 007’s in their search for suppliers of primary material, missile components and technology for the construction of weapons of mass destruction. A recent intelligence lead takes us back to Niger, where Khan was a welcomed guest of the government and where his intermediaries continue to do business, the very same who in 1999 made a fool of the French Secret Services charged with monitoring – through the multinational Cogema – the uranium mines from which some years before were able to illegally export 1,200 tons of yellow cake (yellow uranium oxide from which gas is extracted to be applied in centrifuges in order to be enriched) to Libya. The very same Khan – according to official International Atomic Energy Agency data – bought a part of the 450 tons of stored in Libya in exchange for arms and petrodollars to finance Islamabad’s nuclear program. Khan worked for Pakistan and for anyone else looking for the precious pieces with which to make an atomic bomb. Businessmen from Niger and the «architect» of the Islamic Bomb turn up in the notes of the secret services who some time back indicated, amongst other things, the attempts made by Saddam’s emissaries to buy uranium from Niamey in the very same period in which, in Nigers capital, the Old Man of the DIY nuclear device, Khan, was present. As was seen in Niger-gate the final report of the British Parliaments Commission, in July 2004, pointed out the passage in Niger of Iraqi officials in 1999 and mentions sellers of uranium who in 1999 and 2001 planned to sell uranium to Iran, Libya, China, North Korea and Iraq. This information is in part similar to Ambassador Wilson’s report. The information puts Khan in Niger in that period, detailing how his scientific court, installed in the hall of the Grand Hotel du Niger, gave appointments to local emissaries and clients from every imaginable country on a daily basis. Appointments where information, money and encrypted documents exchanged hands. Secret Informative notes refer in detail to how Khan and his scientific council made a series of visits to Niger and to the Direction of the Pakistani nuclear site of Khauta, visits made in February. In 1998, and above all 1999, a series of encounters defined by nuclear anti-proliferation experts as highly suspect, were held in Niamey. It was here that the «doctor» had his atomic shopping base, the very same base as was used for trips to Sudan, Nigeria, Dubai, Casablanca (where he was received by the ambassador Kakar), Bamako or Timbuktu in Mali (February 98, Hotel Hendrina Khan), Chad where in February he visited the Shifa centre which had just been bombed by the Americans. Again in February a visit to Mauritania where contacts are made with officials of the Republic of Congo and Somalia, countries evidence by the Cia to the White House before the declarations made by George W. Bush in regards to Iraq, declarations in which the President mentions Africa, and not Niger, as the place in which Saddam was desperately seeking uranium. While Rocco Martino was putting his hands on documents that evidenced agreements between the Niger government and Iraq for the supply of uranium at the very same time, and up until well into 2000, the strangest people on the earth were busy visiting Niger’s ‘Gran Bazar’ with Khan. All of the intelligence agencies discovered the father of the Islamic Bomb seeking out money to satisfy the requirements of all those countries intentioned on counterbalancing Israel’s nuclear deterrent. Between one trip and another Khan appeared again in Niger on February 22, 2000, he had been invited by the ambassador Brig Nisare. Khan arrived from Timbuktu, he had stopped over in Dubai where he remained with his right-hand-man Bukari Saied Abu Tair. After the time necessary to meet with his men he left on the 24 for Sri Lanka with Nairobi, Kenya, as a final destination. In fifteen days, on average, Khans visited ten African countries always returning to Niger because – as was later discovered – his laboratories in Pakistan were going ahead with atomic powder from the mines in Niger (Pakistan produced around 745 kilos of enriched uranium capable of producing 40 nuclear bombs each with a 2,000 km range) In 1999 Khan was discovered by the 007’s between Niger and Nigeria looking for fuel for a Chinese reactor. From 1999 until today Khan’s network has suffered a series of setbacks but, according to intelligence analysts, in Africa’s fundamentalist countries Khan is continuing to function using lesser means: the work of the mediators is finding fertile ground in the trafficking of double use components that are, apparently, destined to civil use but in reality destined to the enrichment of uranium for military purposes. -- ARTICLE ENDS --


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: africa; bomb; cialeak; khan; niger; nuclear; plame; wilson

1 posted on 11/30/2005 12:26:02 PM PST by parnasokan
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To: parnasokan

Bad choice of term! The rhythm of "Watergate" absolutely begs one to mispronounce "Nigergate." Maybe some literate journalist will come up with a new way to refer to a scandal?


2 posted on 11/30/2005 12:27:32 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: parnasokan

Boom!


3 posted on 11/30/2005 12:55:12 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

Can we have an investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee into whether or not the CIA knew anything of this?


4 posted on 11/30/2005 1:16:29 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: parnasokan

Wonder if Joe Wilson managed to squeeze in a tea with Dr. Khan during his social-gala packed trip to Niger.


5 posted on 11/30/2005 1:21:52 PM PST by rod1
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Don't give this story to MSNBC!!
6 posted on 11/30/2005 1:27:17 PM PST by holidayidol
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To: parnasokan

Would this be a clearer translation ?

Uranium from Niger for the Islamic Atom Bomb (Translation)

By Gian Marco Chiocci

il Giornale de Italia

Washington, November 30, 2005

The controversial “father” of Pakistan’s nuclear program was in Niamey
(Niger) on the very same days in which Saddam’s emissaries were present.

The network of Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan is a complex puzzle of shadow companies, straw men, university brains, religious individuals, businessmen, military and spies belonging to a government that continues to claim that it knows nothing, and has never known anything, about the traffic of centrifuges and know-how linked to the Islamic bomb.

Despite the arrest of the dispenser of atomic favours the organisation can still boast of ties throughout the world, but it’s in Africa, host to Islamic fundamentalism, that the situation seems to have escaped the 007’s in their search for suppliers of primary material, missile components and technology for the construction of weapons of mass destruction.

A recent intelligence lead takes us back to Niger, where Khan was a welcomed guest of the government and where his intermediaries continue to do business: the very same intermediaries who ,in 1999 made a fool of the French Secret Services charged with monitoring – through the multinational Cogema – the uranium mines from which some years before these intermediaries were able to illegally export 1,200 tons of yellow cake (yellow uranium oxide from which gas is extracted to be applied in centrifuges in order to be enriched) to Libya.

The very same Khan – according to official International Atomic Energy Agency data – bought a part of the 450 tons of (uranium) stored in Libya in exchange for arms and petrodollars to finance Islamabad’s nuclear program.

Khan worked for Pakistan and for anyone else looking for the precious pieces with which to make an atomic bomb.

Businessmen from Niger and the “architect” of the Islamic Bomb turn up in the notes of the secret services - who ,some time back indicated, amongst other things, the attempts made by Saddam’s emissaries to buy uranium from Niamey in the very same period in which, in Nigers capital, the Old Man of the DIY nuclear device, Khan, was present.

As was seen in Niger-gate the final report of the British Parliaments Commission, in July 2004, pointed out the passage in Niger of Iraqi officials in 1999 and mentions sellers of uranium who in 1999 and 2001 planned to sell uranium to Iran, Libya, China, North Korea and Iraq.

This information is in part similar to Ambassador Wilson’s report. The information puts Khan in Niger in that period, detailing how his scientific court, installed in the hall of the Grand Hotel du Niger, gave appointments to local emissaries and clients from every imaginable country on a daily basis: appointments where information, money and encrypted documents exchanged hands.

Secret Investigative notes refer in detail to how Khan and his scientific council made a series of visits to Niger and to the Direction of the Pakistani nuclear site of Khauta, visits made in February.

In 1998, and above all 1999, a series of encounters defined by nuclear anti-proliferation experts as highly suspect, were held in Niamey. It was here that the “doctor” had his atomic shopping base, the very same base as was used for trips to Sudan, Nigeria, Dubai, Casablanca (where he was received by the ambassador Kakar), Bamako or Timbuktu in Mali (February 98, Hotel Hendrina Khan), Chad where in February he visited the Shifa centre which had just been bombed by the Americans.

Again in February (there was) a visit to Mauritania where contacts were made with officials of the Republic of Congo and Somalia : countries reported by the CIA to the White House before the declarations made by George W. Bush in regards to Iraq :declarations in which the President mentions Africa, and not Niger, as the place in which Saddam was desperately seeking uranium.

While Rocco Martino was putting his hands on documents that evidenced agreements between the Niger government and Iraq for the supply of uranium ,at the very same time, and up until well into 2000, the strangest people on the earth were busy visiting Niger’s ‘Gran Bazar’ with Khan.

All of the intelligence agencies discovered the father of the Islamic Bomb seeking out money to satisfy the requirements of all those countries intentioned on counterbalancing Israel’s nuclear deterrent.

Between one trip and another Khan appeared again in Niger on February 22, 2000. He had been invited by the ambassador Brig Nisare. Khan arrived from Timbuktu, he had stopped over in Dubai where he remained with his right-hand-man Bukari Saied Abu Tair.

After the time necessary to meet with his men he left on the 24th for Sri Lanka with Nairobi, Kenya, as a final destination.

In fifteen days, on average, Khans visited ten African countries: always returning to Niger because – as was later discovered – his laboratories in Pakistan were going ahead with atomic powder from the mines in Niger (Pakistan produced around 745 kilos of enriched uranium capable of producing 40 nuclear bombs each with a 2,000 km range)

In 1999 Khan was discovered by the 007’s between Niger and Nigeria looking for fuel for a Chinese reactor.

From 1999 until today Khan’s network has suffered a series of setbacks but, according to intelligence analysts, in Africa’s fundamentalist countries Khan is continuing to function using lesser means.

Middlemen are finding fertile ground in the trafficking of double use components that are supposedly for civil use , but in reality intended for the enrichment of uranium for military purposes.


7 posted on 11/30/2005 1:28:27 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: holidayidol

Oh my God! I suppose PMSNBC got a pass since Innis ia an evil "Republican Consultant".


8 posted on 11/30/2005 1:35:11 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: holidayidol

Technical glitch.


9 posted on 11/30/2005 1:38:18 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: genefromjersey

Was not this known a long time ago and ended up with Libya coming out of the closet?

My own view is that Saddam saw the light and subcontracted his nuclear work to Libya. The discovery was made after Iraqi records were captured.

The Paki was hip deep in it all.


10 posted on 11/30/2005 1:39:58 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: rod1

Doesn't seem like it. According to Wilson, Niger was a pretty dull place.


11 posted on 11/30/2005 1:47:13 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: bert

As was China.


12 posted on 11/30/2005 1:55:17 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: bert

"The discovery was made after Iraqi records were captured."

According to the President's December '03 Libya statement, negotiations began with Libya in March '03. This would be prior to or at start of the war. I believe we will find out the partnership with Libya was discovered shortly after 911.


13 posted on 11/30/2005 2:04:25 PM PST by wkg
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To: parnasokan

This is just one more subject the Bush admin. needs to explain to the American people. The CIA knows, foreign intel. knows, hell, the whole world knows and the average American knows squat. I for one am sick of being treated like a child and being kept in the dark!


14 posted on 11/30/2005 2:15:18 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: genefromjersey

Thank YOU for the para breaks.


15 posted on 11/30/2005 2:30:20 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

I did a little minor re-wording as well-just to smooth the flow.


16 posted on 11/30/2005 3:42:12 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey

uh-oh. I gotta compare the two, word for word?


17 posted on 11/30/2005 5:01:20 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

No. I just smoothed out a couple of rough spots,and added a punctuation point or two.

I know literal translations are sometimes difficult to read for cultural reasons, if nothing else.


18 posted on 11/30/2005 5:28:38 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Alia; All

I haven't followed this as closely as you. Have you seen this website? If so, then I am way behind and you have my apologies.

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:51-oaACaZ5IJ:nuralcubicle.blogspot.com/2005/07/niger-yellowcake-story-italian-version.html+niamey+2000&hl=en


19 posted on 11/30/2005 6:10:15 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1
No, I hadn't. According to the site you've referenced...

Behind the Karl Rove and Plame Affair is a plot by three heads of government, Bush, Blair and Berlusconi, to deceive their nations, international institutions and world public opinion for their own cynical and immoral aims. Worse than Suez, worse than Gulf of Tonkin, worse than the Plain of Jars, worse than Watergate and worse than Iran-Contra.

20 posted on 12/01/2005 4:33:19 AM PST by Alia
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To: bert

Yet according to Wilson after his discussion with Nigerien officials such a transfer is impossible. He fails to explain how the Pakistanis and the Libyans managed to get nealy 2000 tons of Niger uranium "off the books".


21 posted on 12/01/2005 4:38:30 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: parnasokan
Kudos. Your translation has been acknowledged by Clarice Feldman at The American Thinker. I'd love to know what her freeper name is. ;-)
22 posted on 12/01/2005 5:26:08 AM PST by Quilla
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To: bert

Exactly. That's why Bush took a personal interest in going to Oak Ridge TN last year. The Iraqi nuclear weapon program, which was subcontracted to Libya, was brought back to Oak Ridge. Bush wanted to see it for himself.

My own take on this is that the Republicans actually believe in and practice security, and that for national security reasons, there is a lot about the Iraqi nuclear weapons program that they need to keep secret, until they also nail Iran.

The US is like a detective investigating a conspiracy of murderers (Iraq and Iran). We arrested one guy (Iraq), but we're not about to talk about or display any evidence until we get the other guy (Iran).


23 posted on 12/01/2005 8:40:50 AM PST by atomicweeder
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To: Wristpin

"Yet according to Wilson after his discussion with Nigerien officials such a transfer is impossible."

And Wilson believed them?

As I recall, this investigation began with a report of several hundred tons of yellowcake in a warehouse in Benin. If undocumented transfers are impossible, how did it get there?


24 posted on 12/01/2005 8:43:20 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: atomicweeder

....That's why Bush took a personal interest in going to Oak Ridge TN last year....

Although a good East Tennessean I screwed up and left out the Oak Ridge connection.

It is of great importance.In the proper place and at the proper time it will be made known.

It'll be like waferin..... rats will die.


25 posted on 12/01/2005 8:45:44 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: popdonnelly

That yellowcake was left over from the reactor the Isrealis took out in 1982 and was under UN seal. I've read you need a different grade of the stuff to make a nuclear bomb.


26 posted on 12/01/2005 8:52:15 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Alia
"No, I hadn't. According to the site you've referenced... Behind the Karl Rove and Plame Affair is a plot by three heads of government, Bush, Blair and Berlusconi, to deceive their nations, international institutions and world public opinion for their own cynical and immoral aims. Worse than Suez, worse than Gulf of Tonkin, worse than the Plain of Jars, worse than Watergate and worse than Iran-Contra."

Yes, it was a VERY leftist website. I ran across it looking for general timeline info on Niger itself. But the site referred to individuals I hadn't seen discussed anywhere on FR, so I thought I would mention it to anyone researching this. I have no idea if any info there is useful or not (obvious leftist bias aside).

27 posted on 12/01/2005 9:24:42 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: parnasokan
Nigergate, the 007 French who takes apart the thesis of the Sismi

from ours sendes CARL to you BONINI and GIUSEPPE D'.avanzo

(1 December 2005)

http://www.repubblica.it/2005/j/sezioni/esteri/nigergate/francia007/francia007.html

Original In Italian


Concepts:

Rocco Martino, Sismi, Cia, Americans, French, uranio, Alain Chouet, Dgse, Paris, nigerino, Italians, foreign country, reports, Niger, country.

Summary:
PARIS - the Directorate-General of external Safety (Dgse) is the French counterespionage to the foreign country.

I have communicated and exchanged with the Americans the regarding information this case.

To the age of the facts I directed the Service de rensignement de security, the Department Emergency and Intelligence, that it has competence on anti-terrorism, counterespionage to the foreign country, against-proliferation of the crews of mass destruction ".

The story of Alain Chouet corrects in four essential points the reconstruction of the transaction offered to the Parliament from the government and the Sismi.

Continuous to ask to me because the Sismi supports that behind this history we are.

Substantial correction: the prologo of the "Nigergate" goes in scene in the summer of 2001, before the 11 september, at the hands of the Cia.

The Americans before add that to insospettirli it has been a travel, at least two years, of the ambassador iracheno near the Sede Saint in the Central African countries.

Assignment my men to put itself to the job in Africa.

In Niger, obviously, but also in Namibia (you will understand soon because).

After the attack to the Towers, between the september the 2001 and spring of the successive year, that information on the uranio nigerino returns to be an indistinct and insignificant noise of bottom.

The 21 september 2001, Gianfranco admiral Boats (predecessore of Pollari) sendes a cable to Langley with news of a happened transfer "in the ' 99 of staff iracheno in Niger during which they had been made also questions on the impoverito production of uranio in the two mines of the Country and on the modalities of export of that material".

In the February and March 2002, to Langley two relationships arrive from "a foreign service" others that confirm the track nigerina of the atomic rearmament of Saddam.

They deliver to us, of fact, all the information that after we will only discover - I emphasize, after we will discover - to be contained in the dossier of Rocco Martino and of which, in that moment, we have not still never felt to speak.

According to the Italian reconstruction and American those documents are not still in possession of the Cia, neither never have been in possession of the Sismi.

They have this for a year roba and they say it only now, after that already we have gone two times in Niger ".

However neither then, neither after, the Americans report to us from who have received that one roba.

Office in Lussemburgo with one cover society, the Security Development Organization, Office Intelligence to the 3 of Rue Hoel, Sandweiler.

Rocco Martino, for our Service, works therefore for Chouet.

The Sismi in order to confirm the circumstance has diffused to the press two photo of Rocco Martino to talk, "to Brussels", with a French agent of which the ago name, Jacques Nadal.

The Sismi accusation the French intelligence to have taciuto to the Americans the infondatezza of the dossier nigerino.

Indeed, it marks it the Sismi, the director of the controproliferazione of the ministry of the Foreign countries French, 22 November 2002, in the course of a reunion with civil employees of the Department of State, reports that France is in second possession of information which the Iraq has tried of procurarsi uranio in Niger.

The information, asserts the diplomatic French, has been verified and thought reliable.

Citing the relation of the Committee of control on the intelligence of the USA Senate, the Sismi supports that "only 4 March 2003, France perceives Washington that its information on the uranio are based on the same information in possession of Paris".

First: our ministry of the Foreign countries does not know what ago the Dgse.

It is a praxis that is not only worth for the French services.

According to: we have perceived the Cia in summer 2002.

Third party: fairies attention to the words of the USA relationship.

It does not say that France informs the 4 Americans March 2003.

The relationship says: "4 March 2003 the government American has learned that the French have based their analyses begins them on the uranio nigerino on same documents in possession of Washington".

And then, I would be more cautious to say that our ministry of the Foreign countries has supported that France had tests of an attempt of traffic of uranio.

In mine two years of commando to the Dgse it is capitato to me to meet George Tenet, then the director of the Cia.

I have participated to reunions between Paris and Washington.

According to the story of Alain Chouet, the French do not have null to that to make with Rocco Martino (the Sismi have sure to that to make with Rocco Martino).

No movement of Rocco Martino escapes to the Sismi when, in the summer of 2002, the vendifumo it meets for before turns the French agent (is not true, therefore, than the Sismi it knows who is Rocco Martino only in the summer of 2003).

They are the French, which the Cia it asks lumi in order to verify news had from the Italians, to refute them (and they are not therefore the Italians to refute to the Cia the news in possession of the French).

The Cia is in possession at least part goddesses documents of Rocco Martino puttinges with from one source del Sismi (the "Mrs." nell' embassy nigerina of Rome), controlled from colonel del Sismi (Antonio Nucera), already nel July del 2002.

The testimony of Alain Chouet scombussola the artificial version offered from the government to the inconcludente and submitted Committee of control parliamentarian and to the prosecuting attorney of Rome.


Summarized by Copernic Summarizer

 

28 posted on 12/01/2005 11:32:15 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: Wristpin

Right, that would be yellowcake in Iraq. I was referring to yellowcake that was reported to be in a warehouse in Benin, in Africa.


29 posted on 12/01/2005 11:56:48 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Wristpin

I need to make a correction. According to the Senate Intelligence Committee report, the Benin yellowcake story didn't surface until November, 2002, after Wilson's trip.


30 posted on 12/01/2005 12:20:40 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: sageb1

This is an interesting article, although I don't agree with its slant. It indicates that someone at the Niger Embassy passed the file, containing both legit and forged documents, over to SISMI. Rocco Martino has said that an Embassy employee passed the documents on to him, as well. Martino later sold them to the French. So we appear to have one or more industrious Embassy employees. Maybe the break-in was faked, to cover up what someone in the Embassy was doing - stealing stuff so he could sell it to foreign intelligence services.


31 posted on 12/01/2005 1:07:55 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: sageb1
But the site referred to individuals I hadn't seen discussed anywhere on FR, so I thought I would mention it to anyone researching this. I have no idea if any info there is useful or not (obvious leftist bias aside).

GMTA! I took note of the names. Names I've not yet seen, and will look. Thank you.

32 posted on 12/01/2005 4:07:38 PM PST by Alia
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To: genefromjersey

Yours, very much smoothed the flow!


33 posted on 12/01/2005 4:09:01 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

Ah ! Alea jacti est !

(Sorry ! Couldn't resist the pun !)


34 posted on 12/01/2005 4:12:03 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey

That's all right. Just pass the jug my ways when yer done with it. ;>


35 posted on 12/01/2005 4:15:11 PM PST by Alia
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To: parnasokan
I fear that, in my lifetime, a non-governmental entity will probably wipe a large city off the globe... most likely Tel Aviv or a top-5 US city.

(Even if it were a government, I'm not sure we'd have the intestinal fortitude to reply in kind... making several hundred billion dollars pointless, in the end. However, when it isn't a government, even a hawk wanting to retaliate won't have a "legitimate" target, and we'll have to watch, impotently.)

36 posted on 12/01/2005 4:16:32 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Pyro7480; JohnHuang2; SJackson; AdmSmith; kattracks

"Bush lied" ping


37 posted on 12/01/2005 4:41:38 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Alia

Juggus (hic !) passus est.

Sorry 'bout that ! You'd think at my age I would have forgotten all that damn Latin from HS !


38 posted on 12/01/2005 5:26:37 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: bert

I'm Texan by birth, Virginian by choice (31 years living here), and now that my kid goes to UT-Knoxville, I've adopted Tennessee as well. It is a GREAT state! Too bad the Vols had a rough season.


39 posted on 12/01/2005 6:00:20 PM PST by atomicweeder
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To: MileHi
You bet they did. If Innis had been a Rat, blood would still be flowing in Rockefeller Center and everyone from Jack Welsh to the receptionist would still be paying reperations to Jackson and Sharpton.
40 posted on 12/01/2005 6:10:41 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Wristpin
I've read you need a different grade of the stuff to make a nuclear bomb.

It all starts with yellow cake (uranium oxide), though -- which has to be further refined to isolate the U-235 from the U-238.

The centrifuges are one step in this process.

41 posted on 12/01/2005 6:18:07 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: genefromjersey

lol. I hazard to wonder what other "great phrases" you learned in HS "conversational" Latin. heehee... :>


42 posted on 12/01/2005 7:03:56 PM PST by Alia
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To: TBP
CNN.com

Niger guards get nuclear training

Country at center of CIA leak case

NIAMEY, Niger (Reuters) -- Customs and border guards in Niger, the African country named in a U.S. intelligence scandal over alleged Iraqi uranium purchases, are being trained to fight the smuggling of nuclear materials, the government said.

International Atomic Energy Agency specialists, along with local experts, were giving a three-day course this week in the African uranium producer on the risks of handling radioactive material and how to detect trafficking of nuclear substances.

Citing intelligence reports that have since been widely discredited, U.S. President George W. Bush referred in a 2003 State of the Union address to alleged Iraqi attempts to buy uranium from Niger. This speech, which Bush's critics say was deliberately misleading, made the case for war against Iraq.

The so-called Niger dossier is at the center of a high-profile investigation in the United States over the leak of a covert CIA agent's identity to the media.

Niger's Public Health Minister Ary Ibrahim said at the opening of the nuclear security course in Niamey on Wednesday that one of its aims was to improve cooperation to control illegal trafficking of nuclear materials like uranium.

"Their importance in the socio-economic development of our country should not make us lose sight of the risks which can derive from handling them," he said.

Niger exports around 3,000 tons of uranium a year, mostly to France, Japan and Spain.

Bush's 2003 speech mentioning Niger led to public criticism by a former U.S. career diplomat, Joseph Wilson, who accused the administration of twisting intelligence to bolster the case for war on Iraq.

Wilson based his criticism in part on a CIA-sponsored mission he made to Africa in 2002 to check reports that Iraq sought uranium from Niger. Wilson said the reports were unsubstantiated and later accused the White House of leaking the identity of his covert CIA agent wife in retaliation.

The IAEA has said the documents the United States cited to back its allegations that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger were false.

Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/12/01/niger.nuclear.ap

43 posted on 12/02/2005 4:55:09 PM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: MilleniumBug
Bush's 2003 speech mentioning Niger led to public criticism by a former U.S. career diplomat, Joseph Wilson, who accused the administration of twisting intelligence to bolster the case for war on Iraq.

Bush did not mention Niger in his speech!! Freepers are better reporters than Reuters.

Instead of lying, why don't they do some research and tell the public the truth which is that the Clinton Administration knew Iraq was trying to buy Uranium as far back as 1997.

I posted the story here.

Saddam's Shadow-The Clinton Adminitration knew about Iraq Uranium Africa Energy & Mining | June 18, 1997 | Indigo Publications

Saddam's Shadow Africa Energy & Mining June 18, 1997
Copyright 1997 Indigo Publications Africa Energy & Mining
June 18, 1997
SECTION: MINING; DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO; N. 207 LENGTH: 787 words
HEADLINE: Saddam's Shadow

BODY: It's not only diamonds and base metals that interest big mining companies and the latter are not alone in being interested in Katanga. In the delegation that the United States sent to Kinshasa on June 2 under its ambassador to the United Nations, Bill Richardson, the state department's African affairs department was represented by Marc Baas, director for Central Africa. (Susan Rice, director for African Affairs at the National Security Council, has just been appointed under secretary of state for African affairs in succession to George Moose). Baas was accompanied by a representative of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and several Defense Department officials. The mission also visited Lubumbashi and met with officials from Gecamines and provincial authorities.

AEM's sources claim it wasn't the small research reactor that General Electric installed in 1977 at the university of Kinshasa, and which ceased operating in 1990, that interested the NRC and the military men, but rather the Shinkolobwe uranium deposit. Its resources are negligible from a commercial viewpoint when weighed against those in Namibia and Niger and new discoveries like France's Cogema has just made in western Canada. They weren't negligible from the security standpoint, however. The Americans are concerned over a visit to Katanga by the head of the Iraqi Baath party's international relations section, Shabi Al Maliki, around a year ago. He, too, showed an interest in Katanga's uranium, and last February another high-ranking Iraqi official reportedly held talks in Kinshasa with the mines minister in the last government of the Mobutu era, Banza Mukalay. The uranium is thought to have also figured in Libya's proposals in 1995 to supply oil to Zaire in exchange for ore.

Richardson said on June 7 that president Laurent Kabila had given permission for a UN mission to come to the country to investigate the plight of Hutu refugees starting from July 7. Richardson qualified the green light as "a breakthrough on the human rights and humanitarian front." For his part, Brian Atwood, director of U.S.AID, announced in Brussels on June 11 that potential donors would shortly meet for talks on aiding the Democratic Republic of Congo. But such assistance would be conditional on Congo respecting human rights, Atwood indicated. He added that Washington wanted the Kabila government to succeed because if it did not this could result in violence spreading to other countries. He issued an appeal to all governments to use their influence to halt atrocities which various reports indicate are occurring in the eastern part of the country. He said that "organized groups and independent groups" were attempting to strengthen their positions in the eastern regions.

South Africa, for its part, is putting together a team to advise Kabila on reconstructing the country and reorganizing its finances (AEM 205). Deputy president Thabo Mbeki said last week the team would be ready to leave within days and that its members would be chosen in agreement with the Congo government "to discuss a variety of matters that impact on the socioeconomic situation."

He added that Congo's leaders had asked that it consist of officials from South Africa's "Reserve Bank, the economic ministries and people dealing with infrastructure, public administration and so on." Officials said south Africa's foreign minister, Alfred Nzo, discussed Kinshasa's needs with Congo foreign minister Bizima Karaha at the recent Organization of African Unity summit in Harare. The South African mission will be headed by deputy foreign minister Aziz Pahad.

LOAD-DATE: June 20, 1997

SBD
44 posted on 12/04/2005 1:16:36 PM PST by SBD1
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To: parnasokan

Hmmmmm interesting in light of the recent fired leaker (Mary McCarthy) at the CIA.


45 posted on 04/22/2006 5:28:52 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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