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N. Korean Missile Export... Blocked by China(a factor in forcing missile launches?)
MBC (SKor TV) ^ | 09/04/06 | Shin Kyung-min

Posted on 09/04/2006 4:42:41 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

N. Korean Missile Export... Blocked by China

[MBC TV 2006-09-04 21:30]    

(Translator's Note: This is the transcript of an evening news segment)

[News Desk]

Anchor: N. Korea's missile export is being blocked.

After shipment by sea had been blocked, N. Korea has been trying to use air shipment, but China is blocking it, according to what we have found.

Sino-N. Korean relation is not what it used to be.

Correspondent Shin Kyung-min will be reporting. 

Correspondent: S. Korean government confirmed to us that N. Korean planes carrying missile components have been blocked by China from using Chinese airspace on many occasions since 2005.

U.S. intelligence monitoring N. Korea tipped off information on (N. Korean) air shipment of missile components, and China followed on it.

It is rather noteworthy that China, who did not join U.S.-sponsored PSI, Proliferation Security Initiative, accepted the U.S. requests.

Banning the use of its airspace naturally upset N. Korea, even feeling China betrayed them.

This might have been a factor when N. Korea went ahead of missile launches despite China's strong warning.

To N. Korea, missile is the symbol of N. Korean military power, bargaining chip to use against U.S., and premier export product.

In 2001, N. Korea is estimated to have earned 560 million dollars from missile export. After PSI is imposed late 2003, its revenue from the export plummeted to 100~200 million dollars annually, and missile export has been no longer done by sea, but by air. 

After Chinese ban, (N. Korean) missile export route is almost completely blocked. Currently, about 1,000 missiles are sitting at a warehouse, and the missile inventory is turning into a headache, according to what we have learned.

N. Korea's disappointment at China is rising, and the relation between two countries is expected to move away from the old arrangement.

Shin Kyung-min reporting for MBC News.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airshipment; airspace; china; korea; missilelaunch; nknukes; northkorea; psi
Slow screwing, the China's favorite. I wonder if that would be enough, though.

These days, I suspect that, whenever Hu Jintao sees Kim Jong-il's picture, the image of Abe Shinzo will overlap. Together, they would make one really unsettling image.

1 posted on 09/04/2006 4:42:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/04/2006 4:43:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe the NKer's should have given the aid trains back.


3 posted on 09/04/2006 4:47:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Kathy in Alaska

"N. Korea's disappointment at China is rising, and the relation between two countries is expected to move away from the old arrangement."

More evidence China and NK are not so friendly of late.


4 posted on 09/04/2006 4:47:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
"More evidence China and NK are not so friendly of late."

I can hear Chairman Hu doing the calculation in his head right now:

DPRK, Wal-Mart, DPRK, Wal-Mart ...

5 posted on 09/04/2006 4:51:05 PM PDT by trek
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The question is where were these planes heading? Iran? Syria?


6 posted on 09/04/2006 4:59:25 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me
Re #6

IMHO, mostly to Iran.

7 posted on 09/04/2006 5:03:31 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hummmm Let's see...

NK only flies in components for their missiles (avionics, engines ETC.)

I wonder Who would NEED a intercontinental ballistic missile motor ???


Since the have previously shipped to middle eastern countries. Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and (OH YEAH) IRAN !
8 posted on 09/04/2006 5:15:57 PM PDT by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: Tinman73

"I wonder Who would NEED a intercontinental ballistic missile motor ???"

From these last tests, it appears that North Korea dosen't have one ...


9 posted on 09/04/2006 5:39:25 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

Or is that what they want us to believe ???
Remember, it could of been a self destruct (Abort).


10 posted on 09/04/2006 5:48:58 PM PDT by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China is as much a target for North Korean missiles as anyone.

When the Kim family mafia decides to go out with a bang, China will be on the list too.


11 posted on 09/04/2006 5:57:55 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"Currently, about 1,000 missiles are sitting at a warehouse, and the missile inventory is turning into a headache, according to what we have learned."

Wonder who knows where this warehouse is located...would be nice to help take care of the headache.


12 posted on 09/04/2006 6:06:53 PM PDT by ElCid89 (the corps...the corps...and the corps...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Who are their customers, actually? With so many missiles exported?
13 posted on 09/04/2006 6:08:27 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: JustDoItAlways
Re #11

When push comes to shove, N. Korea may be in a two-front war. PLA coming from north, S. Korean and U.S. coming from south. Each group in a race to reach Pyongyang first. I am not kidding.

14 posted on 09/04/2006 6:08:50 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: paudio
Re #13

Uset to be Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, and Iran.

These days, probably Iran and Syria are main customers. The others, I think, are heeding U.S. now.

15 posted on 09/04/2006 6:10:56 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We might be wise, after total, massive shock/awe aerial bombardment for 48 hours, stage an Incheon-type west coast landing (combined with massive air drops), that is, 1/2 way up the North Korean coast, somewhere north of Sunan, and attack/move both to the east and then south to take Pyongyang, and to the north to hold the line against advancing PLA coming across the Yalu. They will have some of the northern half of the peninsula, but we must limit their occupation to as little an area as possible. As we divy up the spoils, we run the huge risk of a direct PRC-USA head on clash.


16 posted on 09/04/2006 6:18:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Not to mention the massive outflow of DPRK refugees southward, maybe even to Japan, by every conceivable means and dingy water craft. It will make the Vietnam boat people look like the Newport Beach Christmas Light Festival.


17 posted on 09/04/2006 6:19:57 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: Tinman73

LOL - Great idea ... they should convince us they are ALLMOST there, instead of us not knowing at all where they are in development ...

( or the Japanese could have taken it out )


18 posted on 09/04/2006 6:20:08 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Many thanks for the translation. That "imminent" NK nuclear test seems to have dropped off the radar screen too. And Kim's train is right at the Yalu. Interesting stuff.


19 posted on 09/04/2006 6:20:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jet Jaguar
More evidence China and NK are not so friendly of late.

Thanks, Jet Jag.

20 posted on 09/04/2006 6:26:14 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ God Bless and Protect Our Brave Protectors of Freedom~)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It sounds like the Chinese are sending Mini-Me a not-so-subtle message that he needs them far more than they need him.


21 posted on 09/04/2006 6:29:15 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Tinman73; RS
Remember, it could of been a self destruct (Abort).

Yeah, and it could've been an Airborne Laser Intercept test.

And it could've been an Aurora knock down.

And it could've been an intervention by the hidden Overlord colonization fleet.

22 posted on 09/04/2006 6:30:38 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave

DPRK ping


23 posted on 09/04/2006 6:31:29 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Re #16

I agree. If possible, landing should be done on Sunan, Nampo which is near Pyongyahng on the Western coast, and Wonsan and Chongjin on the East coast. Denying China the direct access to East Sea(Sea of Japan) must be an important strategic imperative.

24 posted on 09/04/2006 6:31:45 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Re #21

Right.

25 posted on 09/04/2006 6:32:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Jet Jaguar

What country would want that basket case led by a lunatic on its border. Our border relations with Mexico by comparison are a vision of delights.


26 posted on 09/04/2006 6:33:52 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Re #15

Correction:

Uset Used to be Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, and Iran.

27 posted on 09/04/2006 6:41:18 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
PRC would love nothing more than to have the functioning seaports of Wonsan and Chongjin (of the DPRK) for their own Red Navy. Ummmmm, delicious, marine ports on the Sea of Japan facing Japan.


28 posted on 09/04/2006 6:42:29 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

29 posted on 09/04/2006 6:44:44 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If China decided they wanted to, when prodded Kim Jong-il would let them move down to the DMZ before we decided what to do about it.

It's a close call, but I think China will let the South have it. They have nothing worthwhile to gain from taking the North.


30 posted on 09/04/2006 6:45:19 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
Re #30

As I said, how about access to East Sea(Sea of Japan)?

31 posted on 09/04/2006 6:47:46 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

RE #31

Maybe just the Coastline would be worth it, But who in the right mind would want a country that has 24 Million Starving Peasants. I mean the Commies have their own problems as it is with their own Muslim Group, Their Poor Peasants and so on.

But then taking over the coastline only is practically an act of war since Japan would feel extremely treathened.

Taking over the entire country is more of a burden. It would take a hell of alot of aids just to feed them since the current amount of aid isnt enough since it is usually given to the army.

But on the other hand, They can retrieve their Aid Trains back which is a good thing!


32 posted on 09/04/2006 7:04:14 PM PDT by Petey139
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"As I said, how about access to East Sea(Sea of Japan)?"

For what ? This is not like it's 1910 anymore. They would have to rebuild much of North Koreas infrastructure to get there, then when they do, of what benefit is it ?


33 posted on 09/04/2006 7:11:02 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Petey139
Re #32

One of the scenarios I can suspect China could entertain is that China will secure some buffer zone to the south of Yalu and Tumen River. "How far to the south" is to be negotiated with U.S., and they would also demand a north eastern chunk of N. Korea(part of N. Hamkyong Province) including decent seaport on East Sea. This way, it would not much of a burden for China, and in exchange for ceding direct control of most of N. Korea, China secures nice seaport for PLAN.

34 posted on 09/04/2006 7:14:08 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Petey139; RS

See my reply #34.


35 posted on 09/04/2006 7:15:18 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Pardon my ignorance but, after 50 plus years of communism NK is a poor, starving country. What are the spoils?


36 posted on 09/04/2006 7:24:56 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"PRC would love nothing more than to have the functioning seaports of Wonsan and Chongjin"

Why would any commander in his right mind want to build immoveable Navy bases within strike range of your enemies aircraft ?


37 posted on 09/04/2006 7:29:03 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

You'd have to take that up with Beijing!


38 posted on 09/04/2006 7:40:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: paudio

Well it would be safe to say that NK's customers are the enemies of tbe U.S., ya think?


39 posted on 09/04/2006 7:44:51 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar, hydropower, intact missile launch sites, fishery access, salt water ports.....


40 posted on 09/04/2006 7:44:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

... yep that 50,000 square miles looks mighty tempting and has all that all that stuff they are missing in the other 3.7 million square miles they already own. Worth taking a chance on war over ...


41 posted on 09/04/2006 8:54:26 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
PLA coming from north, S. Korean and U.S. coming from south.

Sounds like a pretty short war to me. But what would realistically cause China to invade NoKorea? Would Kim really wave his missiles at China?

42 posted on 09/04/2006 10:24:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
Re #42

No, the more likely situation is N. Korea could create military confrontation with U.S., and push Japan to rearm. The former could crash Chinese economy.

In such a case, China could move in, get rid of Kim, and on a drive seat to dictate N. Korea's future.

43 posted on 09/04/2006 10:36:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Article mentioned on 'The American Thinker'(09/06/2006) with a link back to Free Republic.


44 posted on 09/06/2006 6:33:12 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Re #44

Cool.

45 posted on 09/06/2006 7:05:35 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Jet Jaguar

China makes far, far, FAR more money off America and South Korea than they do off of North Korea.

And they're NOT about to do anything to lose that moola.

(but they definitely don't want to appear like that to their own population)


46 posted on 09/06/2006 3:18:42 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: sam_paine

Don't you know that the JOOOOOOOS (TM) orbital mind control satellites took control of the mind of the North Korean test controllers and forced them to hit the 'self-destruct' switch?

Sheesh. All these loony, whacked out theories over what happened. The truth is so much simply to understand.

Repeat after me: "Orbital mind control satellites... Orbital mind control satellites... Orbital mind control satellites... Ommmmm... Ommmm..."

:-P


47 posted on 09/06/2006 3:24:31 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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