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SaveDarfur.Org Ad Campaign Misleads About the Bush Admin's Role in Darfur
SaveDarfur.org and their TV and Print Campaigns ^ | 10/1/2006 | dirtboy

Posted on 10/01/2006 8:24:21 AM PDT by dirtboy

Over the last few days, the non-profit organization SaveDarfur has been running heart-wrenching commercials showing the victims of ongoing genocide in Darfur. The commercials are quite effective on an emotional level, as they should be for anyone with a heart. And then, at the end, there is a call to action for viewers.

What is the call to action, you might ask?

Is it a call for the UN to get serious about forcing Sudan (a member of the UN Human Rights Commission) to stop blocking deployment of a 22,500 member UN Peacekeeping force? (something already approved by the Security Council)

Is it a call for public pressure for sanctions or even military action against Sudan?

Of course not. The end of the commercial implores viewers to tell President Bush to take action to stop the genocide. And implies he hasn't been doing anything along those lines by not saying anything else on the matter.

Well, perhaps one could make the argument that they are working within the limits of a 30-second television commercial - you can't always squeeze in the full story in that short of a time span.

However, they are also running a print campaign that is under no such limitations. And here is what the print campaign is saying:

Auschwitz. Armenia. Rwanda. Bosnia. Now Darfur.

We have seen the haunting pictures, heard the cries of grieving mothers. Mr. President, you can end it tomorrow when you speak to the United Nations and the world. You need only stand up and say that the United States and its allies will take decisive action now to protect lives in Darfur. That the United States, and the rest of the world, will move now to deploy the UN force they've already approved. In America the support for action crosses partisan lines. John McCain and Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Bob Dole support taking action now.

Please, Mr. President. Beyond politics, beyond borders, beyond religion, there is the moral imperative to save lives. Mr. President, the world is waiting. The lives of two million people hang on your every word tomorrow. Please don't let them down.

TO SEND A MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT BUSH GO TO:

WWW.SAVEDARFUR.ORG

Well, maybe SaveDarfur.org simply isn't aware of all the Bush Adminstration has done to try and halt the genocide in Darfur. Except for the fact that they have the following items on their own website - a press release dated September 19th:

Coalition Applauds President’s Call for UN Peacekeepers and Appointment of Andrew Natsios as Special Envoy

Washington, DC – The Save Darfur Coalition today applauded President Bush’s commitment to get UN peacekeepers into Darfur and his appointment of Andrew Natsios to be his Presidential Special Envoy for Sudan during his address to the United Nations. The Coalition also stressed the need for both Mr. Natsios and President Bush to immediately increase pressure on the Sudanese Government to accept the already authorized UN peacekeeping force. Natsios previously served as the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and as the Special Humanitarian Coordinator for Sudan.

“By appointing Andrew Natsios to be his Special Envoy for Sudan, the President has told the world that he is serious about ending the crisis and building a lasting peace, and that means getting true security to the people who need it,” said David Rubenstein, Coordinator of the Save Darfur Coalition. “The true measure by which history will judge the President’s efforts to end this genocide is not what he says today, but what he does tomorrow. He and Mr. Natsios must be relentless until the genocide is stopped.”

So even as they were producing the TV and Print commercials and making the media buys, they were applauding Bush on their own website.

But maybe the Bush Admin isn't taking the actions needed to pressure Sudan into allowing the UN peacekeeping force into Darfur.

Or maybe the Bush Admin IS pressuring Sudan. Once again, from SaveDarfur's own website:

US tells Sudan: cooperate or expect confrontation

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Sudan in firm terms on Wednesday it must choose between "cooperation and confrontation" with the rest of the world and accept a U.N. force for Darfur. "Innocent people are suffering and dying. The humanitarian situation, already tenuous, is at risk of becoming a complete disaster. And the hope of peace is now in danger of collapsing altogether," she said of Darfur. Aside from the threat of punitive action, the United States has begun dangling the carrot of incentives if Sudan agrees to a U.N. force, including the promise of reconstruction funds and improved bilateral ties. "If the government of Sudan chooses cooperation -- if it works with the United Nations and welcomes the U.N. force into Darfur, then it will find a dedicated partner in the United States," said Rice. Darfur has become a rallying cry in the United States among a range of religious, political and rights groups and the Bush administration is under strong pressure to act. The Save Darfur Coalition ran a full-page advertisement in The New York Times on Wednesday, showing mass graves in Darfur. "When all the bodies have been buried in Darfur, how will history judge us?" said the headline on the advertisement.

Well, then, what does SaveDarfur have to say about this contradiction?

From their own FAQ

Why is the Coalition calling upon President Bush to help make sure UN peacekeepers are sent immediately to Darfur? Shouldn’t that be the UN’s responsibility?

The recent television ads sponsored by the Save Darfur Coalition asking President Bush to take the lead in pushing for the deployment of a UN force in Darfur are not meant in any way to “bash” the President, but rather to urge him to follow through on the good work he and his Administration have already begun. We are both cognizant and appreciative of the fact that the President has done more for the people of Darfur than any other world leader. In fact, it is because of his leadership thus far that we direct our pleas to President Bush now. The hard truth is that the United Nations does not have a standing army it can choose to deploy, it must instead rely on its member states to do the hard work necessary to actually deploy a peacekeeping force once that force has been authorized. As the strongest of member states, we believe that the United States, under the President’s leadership, must lead the international effort to raise and deploy that UN peacekeeping force. While we are not calling for U.S. troops in Darfur, we are calling for the strong U.S. leadership necessary to ensure that a capable UN force is raised and sent to Darfur as soon as possible.

It is also worth noting that while these ads running in the U.S. call for stronger leadership from President Bush, similar ads being run internationally call upon various international leaders to provide strong leadership as well. Advocacy directed at President Bush is not the sum total of our advocacy efforts, but is in fact only the U.S. directed portion of a larger international advocacy campaign directed at the top echelon of world leaders.

Read that again:

We are both cognizant and appreciative of the fact that the President has done more for the people of Darfur than any other world leader

So why is there NO mention of that in the TV or print ads? Why didn't SaveDarfur re-word the commercials to say something along the lines of "President Bush has exercised strong leadership to stop the genocide. Please call him up and say you back him to take even more concrete action!"

Well, maybe a look at the Executive Committee for SaveDarfur.org would reveal just WHY they don't want to give him such credit in their commercials - it includes many sworn enemies of the Bush Adminstration who have had no qualms about spreading lies about the Bush Admin in the past:

American Jewish World Service
American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA Society)
Amnesty International USA
Citizens for Global Solutions
Darfur Peace and Development
Genocide Intervention Network
International Crisis Group
Jewish Council for Public Affairs
NAACP
National Association of Evangelicals
National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA
STAND: A Student Anti-Genocide Coalition
Union for Reform Judaism
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

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I have a suggestion. Instead of calling President Bush to take action on Darfur when he already clearly is doing such by the very admission of those running ad campaigns claiming otherwise, I would suggest that freepers and other Americans outraged by this misleading advertising campaign use the contact information on the SaveDarfur website and tell SaveDarfur to tell the whole story in the commercials, instead of implying that Bush is doing nothing to stop the genocide. This may have been an honest mistake, or it may be politically motivated (after all, the November elections are not far off). But either way, it reeks no matter what the underlying motives may have been, and is counterproductive towards stopping the genocide in Darfur. SaveDarfur.org should pull these ads immediately and issue an apology to the Bush Adminstration for not telling the entire story:

Mail
Save Darfur Coalition
Suite 600
2120 L Street NW
Washington, D.C. 20037

Phone

(202) 478-6311

Fax

(202) 223-9579

Email

info@savedarfur.org


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1 posted on 10/01/2006 8:24:22 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: onyx; jwalsh07

Here's the thread.


2 posted on 10/01/2006 8:24:48 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy
Excellent.

And fast as well!

3 posted on 10/01/2006 8:27:14 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: dirtboy; defconw; Carolinamom; ohioWfan; Mo1; Right_in_Virginia; AliVeritas; snugs; Miss Marple; ...

Let me ping some people and then read it.

PING and pass it along!

This is important.


4 posted on 10/01/2006 8:28:13 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: jwalsh07

This one was pretty easy - all I had to do was go to their own damn website to get all the material I needed to indict their own ad campaign. The libs usually make you work a bit harder than that.


5 posted on 10/01/2006 8:29:57 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy

Darfur won't have any US military action for a variety of reasons... most of which come straight from the mouths of the libs who celebrate this cause.

1. There is no US compelling interest there (same thing was claimed of 'Nam and Iraq).

2. Who is the USA to be the world's policeman? What moral right do we have?

3. War is wrong. We shouldn't engage in war, cause living beings die. Thousands will die in such a war, mostly the innocents on the other side.

4. We are not being respectful of the Darfur culture and history if we interfere. What is that Star Trek prime directive again?

5. This is a civil war, and we shouldn't be putting American boys and girls in harm's way.

6. We should have the UN do it.

In other words, the Libs are inheriting the whirlwind of the winds of dissention that they've sown....


6 posted on 10/01/2006 8:31:21 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: dirtboy

Didn't you know this was Bush's fault?


7 posted on 10/01/2006 8:31:54 AM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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To: dirtboy

NOTHING will be done about the genocide in Darfur until the world openly recognizes ISLAM for what it is. In the meantime, moozlims get a free pass to continue their expansionism via genocide in the Horn of Africa.


8 posted on 10/01/2006 8:32:18 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: dirtboy

We are both cognizant and appreciative of the fact that the President has done more for the people of Darfur than any other world leader.

They really know how to show their appreciation, huh? /s

Excellent post, dirtboy!

9 posted on 10/01/2006 8:33:23 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: dirtboy

The president has been urging UN action on Darfur almost since taking office. I've seen the ads and they clearly insinuate that he's not interested.

I did some googling and found that the conspiracy sites already blame the president for all past and potential future scenarios. Some sites blame him for doing nothing, others make claims of secret ops that are causing the problems, and still others say that if we do anything it will be to steal their oil.

The left is nothing but pathetic scum.


10 posted on 10/01/2006 8:33:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: onyx

Thanks for the ping.


11 posted on 10/01/2006 8:34:01 AM PDT by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: dirtboy

Excellent!


12 posted on 10/01/2006 8:37:21 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: onyx
Thanks. This ad just infuriated me when I saw it today. I knew enough of the story to know Bush has been at the front of trying to do something here.

This isn't just about politics. It's about a cheap shot using a tragic situation - and that cheap shot does NOTHING to help the process along. In fact, the liberal nitwits running SaveDarfur also do NOT want the US to take any kind of unilateral action:

While we are not calling for U.S. troops in Darfur, we are calling for the strong U.S. leadership necessary to ensure that a capable UN force is raised and sent to Darfur as soon as possible.

But the only thing I see that would force Sudan to accept the peacekeeping force would be a threat of direct US military action if Sudan continues to block deployment.

We on FR can debate whether or not it is in our interests to be involved here, or at what level that involvement should be. However, SaveDarfur simply is not serious about what it would take to pressure Sudan here. Throw in their blatant omission of what Bush has done to date, and they are now part of the problem, not part of any solution.

13 posted on 10/01/2006 8:38:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: TWohlford
Darfur won't have any US military action for a variety of reasons...

7. We will radicalize more Muslims to the cause if we send troops there, and violence will increase, thus creating a quagmire

14 posted on 10/01/2006 8:39:11 AM PDT by montag813
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To: dirtboy

Maybe I'm pointing the finger at a group that was active earlier...

But when I saw the adverts, my knee-jerk thought was "Where the
fire-truck where you people when Christians and animists were being
murdered in southern Sudan by the Islamic Arabs of the government troops?"

But once it's Muslims getting raped, murdered and pillaged by their
co-religionists....it's time for a big ad campaign.


15 posted on 10/01/2006 8:40:05 AM PDT by VOA
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To: dirtboy

Thank you for posting.


16 posted on 10/01/2006 8:40:49 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: dirtboy

Excellent!...........this ad is very decieving.....it all comes down to the last line...*Please President Bush stop the genocide now*.......as if Bush is responsible for not doing anything!


17 posted on 10/01/2006 8:44:20 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: dirtboy; Jim Robinson; Hildy; spectre; OldFriend; Howlin; MikefromOhio; Pukin Dog; SoCalPol; ...

BUMP to everything you said.
Excellent work.

This is a horrid cheap shot and you're awesome to have caught it and exposed it!


18 posted on 10/01/2006 8:45:02 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
We are both cognizant and appreciative of the fact that the President has done more for the people of Darfur than any other world leader.

But we sure as heck ain't gonna give him credit in a national ad campaign. We'll instead imply the opposite - after all, it's only a few weeks until the November elections! We gotta have our priorities straight here, you know!

19 posted on 10/01/2006 8:45:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: onyx
This was another favorite of mine from their FAQ (who reads FAQs, BTW? Their praise of Bush was buried there:

It is also worth noting that while these ads running in the U.S. call for stronger leadership from President Bush, similar ads being run internationally call upon various international leaders to provide strong leadership as well. Advocacy directed at President Bush is not the sum total of our advocacy efforts, but is in fact only the U.S. directed portion of a larger international advocacy campaign directed at the top echelon of world leaders.

(too bad I forgot to italicize this paragraph in the initial post).

I guess the SaveDarfur people can't be bothered with the fact that most people seing the commercial in the US WILL NOT SEE THE COMMERCIALS RUNNING ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD.

20 posted on 10/01/2006 8:47:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy

I saw that commercial this morning. It raised the blood pressure, for sure. Now I am livid.

God bless President Bush and protect him from all enemies.


21 posted on 10/01/2006 8:49:30 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Some pray for peace; I pray for the VICTORY that will ensure it.)
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To: VOA

I get pretty sick of muslim claims that there is no racism or ethnic strife within islam. All I have to do is look to Darfur to see arab muslims slaughtering african muslims. Or we could look at the fact that Bangladeshi muslims often end up in arab countries as slaves. Look at the Kurds, they face an endless threat from the Turks, sunni muslims in Iraq and Shia muslims in Iran. And lets not forget that the palestinians are the long time whipping boy of the muslim world unless they kill themselves and take Jews and Christians with them.


22 posted on 10/01/2006 8:52:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: dirtboy

Exactly. The sponsor/associate lists tell the tale:

It's ELECTION time and what better way to motivate the black vote, to cite one wing of the democrat party?


23 posted on 10/01/2006 8:52:47 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
Hey, while we're hanging out in the FAQ section of SaveDarfur, let's see exactly what the good folks there are DOING to help the affected persons:

How does the Save Darfur Coalition help the people of Darfur?

We utilize media outreach, public education, targeted coalition building and grassroots mobilization to pressure policymakers and other decision-makers in the United States and abroad to help the people of Darfur.

How do I make a donation to the Save Darfur Coalition?

The easiest way to donate is through our secure online donation system.

If you prefer not to contribute online, you can send us a check or money order via the mail. For your security, we ask that you do not send cash.

Donations can be sent to the following address:

Save Darfur Coalition
P.O. Box 18176
Washington, D.C. 20036

Do you accept clothing and food donations?

We only accept monetary donations, as we do not provide on the ground humanitarian services.

24 posted on 10/01/2006 8:54:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: cripplecreek
Actually although that is what the left wants, by pushing the UN angle, we ares still doing nothing. The UN is a major human rights violator, and made up of many human rights violators. Get the US out out of the UN. The only solution is the destruction of the Sudanese government, and possibly giving Darfur independence. But we have so many evil regimes to destroy, and little time.
25 posted on 10/01/2006 8:56:32 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: dirtboy

I noticed that too!
ONLY MONETARY donations.

The question begs...for what purpose? MORE ADS?


26 posted on 10/01/2006 8:57:55 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
Well, they DID have a Million Postcard March. I'm sure THAT had the tyrants in Khartoum shaking in their boots:

Are you still collecting the Million Voices for Darfur postcards?

The Coalition and its partners collected more than 1,000,000 postcards urging President Bush to use the power of his office to support a stronger multinational force to protect the people of Darfur. Concerned citizens from every state in the union collected postcards at small town community events, large student rallies, religious services and on the Internet.

While the Million Voices for Darfur Campaign is no longer active, we will still collect your postcards and deliver them to President Bush.

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And check out who signed the Millionth Postcard (one is a usual suspect, the other wasn't but probably should be by now):

Senators Frist and Clinton Sign One Millionth Postcard Urging President Bush to Advocate Multinational Peacekeeping Force to Stop Darfur Genocide

Washington, DC – Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, M.D. (R-TN) and Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) today joined other Members of Congress in signing the 1,000,000th postcard to President Bush urging him to use the full power of his office to support a stronger multinational force to protect the innocent civilians under attack in Darfur, Sudan. The senators signed the postcard at a U.S. Capitol news conference, helping the Save Darfur Coalition to reach its goal in just five months.

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I think pushing Frist for majority leader was probably the biggest political mistake the Bush Admin did. He has been a clueless disaster.

27 posted on 10/01/2006 9:02:05 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy; ohioWfan

Oh FGS! I could have done without reading Frist has signed on. Good grief.

If ohioWfan doesn't reply, I will link your thread on the Dose tonight. I see that most posters are still involved on the Sunday thread.


28 posted on 10/01/2006 9:04:56 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx

Their appreciation is positively UNDERwhelming.


29 posted on 10/01/2006 9:06:24 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: onyx
Here is the latest talking point about Darfur from the NAACP website (since they are listed on the Executive Committee for SaveDarfur):

The United States must use all available means¯diplomatic and financial¯to ensure the rapid deployment of peacekeepers in Darfur.

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Note that military action is not an option to them. Which means they are not serious about pressuring Sudan.

30 posted on 10/01/2006 9:06:50 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy

This is the most intellectually dishonest ad I have ever witnessed. It must have been produced by Kofi Annan... in collusion with George Clooney.


31 posted on 10/01/2006 9:18:13 AM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: melt
in collusion with George Clooney

I wouldn't blame Clooney. He has said in public that Bush has done more for Darfur than any other world leader.

I smell rats within the liberal members of the executive committe at SaveDarfur.

32 posted on 10/01/2006 9:19:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Their appreciation is positively UNDERwhelming.

I have a feeling, just a gut instinct from two decades in marketing, that they might have had several commerical scripts and focus-tested them among their members. And any commercial that gave Bush any credit probably got booed down.

33 posted on 10/01/2006 9:32:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy

I go along with your gut instinct.


34 posted on 10/01/2006 9:34:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: okie01; Shermy

PR ping to okie01 and a general ping to FR's best BS detector shermy.


35 posted on 10/01/2006 9:45:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: dirtboy

When we saw that commercial, my husband looked at me and said "geuss they don't realize it's the UN Peacekeepers doing the raping and molesting".


36 posted on 10/01/2006 9:50:31 AM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: MissEdie

I'm glad other people saw the commercial and saw problems with how it ended. The first time I saw it, I thought I might have been overreacting. But it ran a second time during FNS and I was irate enough to look up what this outfit was about.


37 posted on 10/01/2006 9:54:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
One of the other finalist commericals said "It Slices! It Dices! It stops genocide without military intervention!"

Methinks liberals should start adapting the informercial approach for their political ads. After all, both promote things that don't permform anywhere near as well as claimed in the commercials.

38 posted on 10/01/2006 9:56:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; dirtboy
Worse than underwhelming --- dirtboy has exposed their duplicity.
39 posted on 10/01/2006 9:59:20 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: dirtboy
This African country should be saved for humanitarian reasons but it's hard to find any other reason.

Africa has been on the dole for hundreds of years. The entire continent is unable even to feed itself. The Peace Corps and thousands of missionaries have proved that Africans cannot be taught. The advances of the colonial
period went back to the jungles when colonialism ended.

Colonialism did not end because France, Germany, Belgium and other colonial powers suddenly decided that African nations should have independence. Colonialism ended because it became too big a burden with diminishing returns.

African nations are incapable of self-government or any other kind except for strong-man government.

In Charles Dickens novels of the 1850s some of his characters are obsessed with sending "handkerchiefs to Booriboola." Nothing has changed. Yes, by all means save them again, but what's the point?

So kick me. But I didn't make it so.
40 posted on 10/01/2006 10:10:02 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: dirtboy
This African country should be saved for humanitarian reasons but it's hard to find any other reason.

Africa has been on the dole for hundreds of years. The entire continent is unable even to feed itself. The Peace Corps and thousands of missionaries have proved that Africans cannot be taught. The advances of the colonial
period went back to the jungles when colonialism ended.

Colonialism did not end because France, Germany, Belgium and other colonial powers suddenly decided that African nations should have independence. Colonialism ended because it became too big a burden with diminishing returns.

African nations are incapable of self-government or any other kind except for strong-man government.

In Charles Dickens novels of the 1850s some of his characters are obsessed with sending "handkerchiefs to Booriboola." Nothing has changed. Yes, by all means save them again, but what's the point?

So kick me. But I didn't make it so.
41 posted on 10/01/2006 10:11:10 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: dirtboy

Glad you did, I'm spreading the word among my non-political friends so they hopefully won't be duped during the upcoming elections.


42 posted on 10/01/2006 10:16:13 AM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: dirtboy

I saw this Commie ad for the first time yesterday and all I can say is that this Darfur crowd has to be doing a whole lot a drugs to believe they can get away with blaming the fiasco in Darfur on President Bush. Probably the most disgusting thing I've heard out of a bunch of pothead, Commie sexual deviants to date. Darfur is none of our business. If the U.S. gets involved in that sewer, I'LL become an "anti-war" protestor. Somebody needs to be shot over this stupid and disgusting propaganda "ad" being shown on TV in my country.


43 posted on 10/01/2006 10:18:26 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: dirtboy
I don't have any doubt that the ads are an attempt by the left to have their cake (save Darfur) and eat it too (bash Bush).

What they are willing to grant on their own website won't find its way into the ads because of, as you suspect, their board of directors. A contributors list for this rather elaborate campaign might also be even more enlightening.

As far as the ad copy is concerned, there is a professional need to call the reader/viewer to action. And, as you note, the way this particular call to action is framed avoids stating an admitted truth and implies something that isn't the truth.

A copywriter has to work to do that. It has nothing to do with the 30-second limitation.

At best, it's sloppy writing and editing. At worst, it's probably what it really is -- propaganda.

44 posted on 10/01/2006 10:42:50 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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"The recent television ads sponsored by the Save Darfur Coalition asking President Bush to take the lead in pushing for the deployment of a UN force in Darfur are not meant in any way to “bash” the President, but rather to urge him to follow through on the good work he and his Administration have already begun. We are both cognizant and appreciative of the fact that the President has done more for the people of Darfur than any other world leader. In fact, it is because of his leadership thus far that we direct our pleas to President Bush now."

The above is blatant disinformation. I know, I was personally there, in Central Park, in New York City, on September 17th during the "Save Darfur" rally.

I was supposed to meet two friends whose churhes have been working with one of the religious groups advocating for international action to end the conflict and genocide in Darfur. When we didn't meet-up at our designated meeting place, at Fifth Ave and 86th street, I waited awhile and then went ahead on my own.

The first thing that was so obvious was that the event was staged more as a fund-raiser, membership drive and organizational awarness raising event for one of the lead partners in the Save Darfur coalition - Amnesty International. The Amnesty people, their placards, their insignia, the banners, their T-shirts, their stick-on-your clothing decals, their staff, their workers seeking new members far and away were a more significant presence than the symbols of the Save Darfur coalition itself - by a very wide margin.

As usual with such events, things get started late. They had some music, some singing and an African dance group as "warmup" acts for the speakers. Nothing to object about.

The majority of folks in my immediate area were friendly enough, even with their Amnesty patches on their clothes.

What surprised me, but should not have, was the incongruity of their sincerity and seeming passion for the issue along side of their utter ignorance of (1)Darfur, geographically, (2)history of the conflict there, (3) racial and ethnic distinctions between the groups in Darfur, (4)role of China in Sudan, economically today, (5)role of China and Russia blocking stronger action on Darfur in the Security Council, (6)history of just what has taken place (on Darfur) in the Security Council, who proposed actions and who defeated those proposals.

There is nothing deadlier in world geo-political crises than high passion that your cause, and the views of your leaders in that cause, are right, coupled with extreme ignorance. It is just the right mix for the prevaricators of misinformation to turn your passion to their political interest.

The first speaker was a woman (whose name I forgot) but who was presented as one of the people from one of the main "humanitarian" organizations that had been working in Darfur (as she herself had) for the last ten years. She was "moderate" enough, while ending with an obvious "lead in" for the next speaker, suggesting that America alone, through its leaders, can change the course of what's happening in Darfur.

That was the "right" opening for the speach by Madeline Halfbright. Here was the Clintonista who sat on the Security Council and tolerated the genocide in Rwanda, preaching to her audience that George Bush must be asleep or he (all by himself) would have brought more action at the United Nations by now.

She was not the last speaker (to thousands) to say directly to the audience that if the United Nations failed to act, the voters should make George Bush pay for that failure in November.

I think it was mid-speech of the 2nd or third speaker after Miss Halfbright that I got up and left in disgust.

The general tone of the event had become another "bash Bush" cause and openly ignored the facts and particularly the facts that the United States UN delegation has been the most forceful Security Council delegation on Darfur and that each "appeasing" action has been forced on the Security Council by either China, Russia, or France with the applause (and votes) from the sidelines from any Arab or "third world" delegations.

One speaker as much as said that (and I'll paraphrase)
"if George Bush really wanted to, he could force the security council votes" we need to end the genocide.

The whole thing was, for Darfur, a real farce and for NY lefties a pre-November pep rally; nothing more. In sum, it showed what phonies the "human rights" organizations really are. They do not exist to promote human rights. The "Human rights" agenda is simply a political tool, with no real underlying morality.

Given the honest participation of many religious organizations in the efforts to help those in Darfur, the Central Park event was a bummer, even though I could have predicted much of the event that disgusted me.

I think we should be writing to our religious friends and asking that their organizations sever their association with the present "Save Darfur" coaltion and continue to work as their own group, without Amnesty International and its political fellow-travelors.


45 posted on 10/01/2006 10:44:08 AM PDT by Wuli
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What they are willing to grant on their own website won't find its way into the ads because of, as you suspect, their board of directors.

But in their minds the statements on the website give them an "out" against criticism. And I imagine they will use the 30-second defense regarding the TV commercial - that there simply wasn't time to tell the whole story.

But that falls flat given they didn't tell the whole story in the print campaign.

46 posted on 10/01/2006 10:47:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: Wuli
Thank you SO MUCH for the first-hand account of the rally.

"if George Bush really wanted to, he could force the security council votes" we need to end the genocide.

Amazing. If Bush ever threatened or strong-armed a Security Council member, the shrieks from the left would deafening.

without Amnesty International and its political fellow-travelors.

Amnesty is big into a fall membership drive at the moment.

47 posted on 10/01/2006 10:50:12 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: Wuli
suggesting that America alone, through its leaders, can change the course of what's happening in Darfur.

From the same crowd that decries that Bush seeks to go it alone in the world.

48 posted on 10/01/2006 10:52:02 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline, go away today. I don't feel much like dancing...)
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To: Wuli

Very interesting.....like I posted earlier..the last line of this ad is "Please President Bush, stop the genocide"....it all fits now!


49 posted on 10/01/2006 10:55:48 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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And I imagine they will use the 30-second defense regarding the TV commercial...

Instead of this:

Please, Mr. President. Beyond politics, beyond borders, beyond religion, there is the moral imperative to save lives. Mr. President, the world is waiting. The lives of two million people hang on your every word tomorrow. Please don't let them down.

Try this.

President Bush and America have done more to recognize that beyond borders, beyond religion, there is the moral imperative to save lives. We must keep up this good work. The lives of two million people depend upon it. Please give President Bush your support.

More honest. And, maybe, a little more effective...

Which is to say, "What thirty-second problem?"

Liberals! Bah!!!

50 posted on 10/01/2006 11:05:44 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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