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JFK's fatal head wound: The truth for those who want to know (very graphic) & others | 11/22/03

Posted on 11/22/2003 5:10:59 PM PST by Wolfstar

The Zapruder film proves itself to be authentic. There is no possibility that any frames could have been cut out of the film or altered. Why/how? Every time a frame was exposed, part of the background scene was exposed onto both the next frame and the previous frame in the sprocket hole areas. This is because the sproket holes are between frames, as shown below:

The head shot, frame-by-frame:

Frame 312

Frame 313

Frame 313 enlarged:

Frame 314

Frame 315

Frame 316

Frame 317

Frame 318

Frame 319

Frame 320

The head wound:

The large flap of skull, skin and other tissue blown out above and just in front of the president’s right ear. The flap stayed attached and hung over the president's right cheek. On the ride to Parkland, Mrs. Kennedy attempted to put it back in place. What the doctors saw at Parkland was the wound partially closed with the shattered pieces at the top rear of the wound missing. Hence, some doctors recalled a wound in that area:

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 01nov1963; bang; diem; jfk; jfkhit; oswald
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To: veronica
I have a new theory. The last photo at your link says an entry wound through the throat. Therefore I say that Connelly concealed a gun under his arm and shot backwards up into the throat of the President, because he either didn't like assh@les from Massachusetts or wanted another Texan to be president. Then shot himself in the elbow or whatever he got shot in to provide a coverup. The SS agent, running to the back of the car, thought he heard shots coming from the car, and figured Jackie had shot John for screwing Marilyn.
241 posted on 01/09/2004 11:30:33 AM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm amazed this thread is still going. They call me crazy 'cause I think there was an organized conspiracy in the JFK assassination project.

If I'd only believe in Arlen, life would be so much simpler. But I don't...

242 posted on 01/09/2004 3:10:26 PM PST by martian_22 (Not proven my a$$!)
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To: GigaDittos
Here's an old one:
Thank you Dallas, good night!

243 posted on 01/10/2004 1:35:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (
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244 posted on 11/24/2004 5:27:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Wolfstar
This is just a comment. I went to the web site "SECRETS OF A HOMICIDE" by Dale K. Myers and printed out entrance wound and exit wound "cartoon characters" of JFK the cut out the entrance wound and traced it over the exit wound. To my shock the trajectory of the bullet seems to be traveling at a downward angle from the throat to the back at about 10 degrees. Remembering that Mr. Myers entire idea is to prove the opposite. If this is so why didn't he put the who thing togeather. At least I had the intelligence to do this. Although I am far from an expert one has to examine the details of any theory so thus far with his OWN EVIDENCE the contrary seems to be my conclusion.
245 posted on 01/02/2005 10:19:17 AM PST by marksw (JFK's throat wound.)
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To: marksw
Happy New Year, marksw. Interesting that you found and revived this thread. When I was a kid, I believed wholeheartedly that JFK's assassination was carried out by a conspiracy. It was only after some of the autopsy photos became public -- and I was a much better educated and informed adult -- that what's on the Zapruder film became obvious to me.

It unmistakably shows that the right front portion of JFK's head explodes outward and upward. It is a massive exit wound. The fatal shot came from somewhere behind JFK. Once I realized that the cottage industry that had sprung up about the assassination was essentially lying to me, it became much hard to trust any conspiracy theory.

246 posted on 01/02/2005 11:58:36 AM PST by Wolfstar (Where are you, Miss Beazley?)
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To: Wolfstar
I just want to say that i really agree with what a lot of you are saying. I believe that Oswald was the only shooter, and obviously shot Kennedy from behind. I don't really believe there was any sort of conspiracy, i think that the evidence speaks for itself. When you look at the Nix film, it's a lot easier to see the president's lean back after the head shot, so it makes sense that the shot came from behind. I'm writing a term paper on the assassination and reading a bit of what has been posted before seems logical and sensible, not thrown around and played with.
Our president was shot dead, that is a huge tragedy, it's something that people should make stories up about or demand that we lie about evidence to make it seem like there was a conspiracy. I've read all about these conspiracy theories; they all question every little thing, trying to make it look like there had to have been a conspiracy.
I just have one question:
Did the assassination make JFK look like a better president than he was thought to be?
247 posted on 02/22/2005 3:49:50 PM PST by sarahk
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To: sarahk
I just want to say that i really agree with what a lot of you are saying.

Thanks. And may I congratulate you on studying the evidence you can see with your own eyes, then reasoning out the obvious truth, rather than succumbing to the easy way out. Letting conspiracy theorists (whose theories often conflict with each other) do your thinking for you is the easy way out.

Did the assassination make JFK look like a better president than he was thought to be?

Yes. John F. Kennedy was in office from Jan. 20, 1961 to Nov. 22, 1963, or just a little under three full years. He didn't have the opportunity to govern for a full term, let alone to run for a second term. Given that several months of a president's first year is consumed by various appointments (cabinet, sub-cabinet, agencies, ambassadors, White House staff, etc.), JFK didn't have much time to build a record for good or ill.

Separating the real man and his presidency from the myth that mostly liberal, Democrat journalists and biographers (to say nothing of the cottage industry of conspiracy theorists) have build up about JFK is difficult. In reality, the man's presidency ranks somewhere in the mid-level to lower third of all presidencies.

On the positive side, his rhetorical skills were among the best of post-WWII presidents. He is remembered for that one line in his inaugural address (Ask not...), as well as for his speech challenging the U.S. to put a man on the moon before the decade of the 1960's ended.

One might also say that the peaceful resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis was also a positive accomplishment. However, his betrayal of Cuban freedom fighters at the Bay of Pigs, and his CIA's attempt to assassinate Fidel Castro led to Castro inviting the Soviets into Cuba. There would have been no missile crisis if Kennedy had handled the Cuban matter better from the start.

JFK's foreign policy was a disaster, one that very nearly led to a nuclear war between the Soviets and the U.S. Kennedy's muddled interference in the political affairs of South Vietnam, and his initial build-up of the American presence there, set the stage for Lyndon Johnson to vastly increase our military role after JFK's death.

Kennedy's first foreign policy blunder was the betrayal of the Cubans at the Bay of Pigs in April 1961, followed by imposition of a strict trade embargo on Cuba, which led to food rationing on the island in March 1962.

JFK's second big foreign policy blunder occured in August 1961 as he stood by and failed to respond while the Soviet Union built the Berlin Wall. The leader of the Soviet Union at the time, Nikita Khruschev, was a tough, cunning politician who had risen to the top of the Communist Party ranks unders Stalin. To put it bluntly, he thought he was dealing with a dumb, naive boob in JFK. So he decided to see just how far he could press the American president.

On May 29, 1962, a high-level Soviet delegation that included Marshal S. S. Biryuzov, commander of the Strategic Rocket Forces, and a high-level delegation, arrived secretly in Havana to suggest the deployment of nuclear weapons in Cuba. Castro, dealing with food rationing, a restive populace, and fear of CIA plots to kill him, jumped at the chance for Soviet assistance and protection.

October 14, 1962, the Cuban Missile Crisis begins when U.S. reconnaissance aircraft photograph Soviet construction of intermediate-range missile sites in Cuba. President Kennedy demands the withdrawal of Soviet missiles and imposes a naval blockade. Khrushchev agrees on condition that Cuba receives guarantee of non-aggression from the U.S. and Jupiter missiles aimed at the Soviet Union are removed from Turkey. Kennedy agrees. Khruschev blieves he has won a significant victory and he is right.

The Soviets maintain their influence in Cuba until the collapse of the Soviet Union. Their influence spreads to the Middle East and Africa, and Castro helps spread communism to Central and South America. Worse, Kennedy was preparing to totally cave in to Castro and the Soviets when his asassination intervened. On November 17, 1963, just days before his death, Kennedy asked French journalist Jean Daniel to tell Castro that he was ready to negotiate normal relations and drop the embargo. According to former JFK Press Secretary Pierre Salinger, "If Kennedy had lived I am confident that he would have negotiated that agreement and dropped the embargo, because he was upset with the way the Soviet Union was playing a strong role in Cuba and Latin America."

On the domestic front, modern conservatives like Rush Limbaugh enjoy pointing to Kennedy's income tax cut as a way to reinforce the benefit of tax cuts. However, that glosses over the negatives of Kennedy's domestic policy. Under Kennedy, the feds acquired intrusive new powers to snoop into the bank accounts of every American. For the first time, banks were required to report interest payments to the feds, and initial attempts were made to tax interest on bank accounts.

I'm not certain, but I believe Kennedy also signed the law that forced banks to report all withdrawals over $10,000 cash to the feds. (It's possible this latter intrusion into our privacy and personal property by the feds came later, although I don't have time to research it now.)

Hope all of this helps.

248 posted on 02/22/2005 5:01:36 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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Appointment in Dallas: The Final Solution to the Assassination of JFK Appointment in Dallas:
The Final Solution to
the Assassination of JFK

by Hugh C. McDonald
other edition

249 posted on 06/01/2005 12:37:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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250 posted on 12/13/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by southland (proverbs 22:7)
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To: marksw


251 posted on 12/13/2006 7:46:41 PM PST by southland (proverbs 22:7)
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To: SunkenCiv

252 posted on 12/09/2007 10:49:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Thanks, I’ve heard that Zoppi story repeated since I was a wee lad.

253 posted on 12/09/2007 11:14:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, December 10, 2007____________________
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To: SunkenCiv

A couple of interesting pictures

and #126

254 posted on 12/09/2007 11:17:43 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Wolfstar
Didn't see this animated clip on your thread and thought I'd add it ...

255 posted on 07/09/2008 10:07:43 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Didn't see this animated clip on your thread and thought I'd add it ...

Hi "Meek." Wow, talk about oldies but goodies. That was back in the days when average FR threads drew over a hundred comments easy. This JFK one was the subject of a lively debate at the time. I miss those FR days.

The ani you posted is small, but people should still be able to recognize that they are seeing blood, bone and tissue explode up and forwards from a huge exit wound above JFK's right temple area. You can also just make out the huge flap of skin and bone that falls over his right cheek.

For years, people mistook the motion of JFK's body back and to the left as an indication he was shot from the front. In fact, it's the explosive force of the bullet creating that huge exit wound which causes the body's motion back and to the left. It's just like when superheated gasses push out the rear of a rocket. The rocket goes in the opposite direction from the direction the gasses and flames go. They push downward and the rocket goes up.

256 posted on 07/09/2008 10:30:44 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Only a selfish, idiotic coward thinks the way to win in politics is for his own side to lose.)
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To: Wolfstar


Your description of the animation is perfect and describes it exactly, thanks.

Guess I better hit the horizontal rack for a few hours now.

Have a SUPER Thursday!

257 posted on 07/09/2008 10:52:54 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz! Free Lazamataz!)
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To: Az Joe

And your kind are certifiable, as well; you must ignore the possibility of a conspiracy to assassinate the president in spite of an assassination surrounded in a cloud of magic bullets. It is a given that something else happened. And wouldn’t it seem much more possible that a motivated group would attempt it. Maybe it was the Mafia, they’re bad, right? Indeed there’s a fine line between business and organized crime.

258 posted on 07/15/2008 9:32:18 AM PDT by Maxwell Amuse
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To: SunkenCiv

thx thx.

I’ve seen the Madeline Duncan Brown interview before.

Seemed pretty convincing to me.

259 posted on 04/22/2011 4:53:15 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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