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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: MJY1288
What's wrong with voting one's conscience?
181 posted on 02/02/2004 10:08:33 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: OWK
And therefore people best just shut up and take whatever steaming pile of leftist feces that Bush sends their way with a smile and a thank you... Right? Is that how it works?

There are many candidates on many different ballots this November. Promoting conservatism extends well beyond the Presidential candidate. Of course, you don't need a simian like me to call this to your attention . . .

The problem with promoting conservatism via the vote, especially this year, is it requires work; one has to actually study every position and every candidate and determine his or her true stance to the best of one's ability, to determine whether or not that candidate is really conservative. Voting a straight ticket won't cut it; nor will a 'protest' vote for an unelectable, though thoroughly papered, conservative presidential candidate.

Likewise, sitting at home on election day does nothing but affirm moral and intellectual laziness on the part of the sofa warmer.

To thine own self be true . . .

182 posted on 02/02/2004 10:09:07 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: OWK
I'm fully in your camp as usual.
183 posted on 02/02/2004 10:09:16 AM PST by gorush (You're it!)
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To: Mr. Low Key
I am not your son and I don't run your errands.

Conservatives are self reliant.

Try Google.
184 posted on 02/02/2004 10:09:24 AM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: OWK
You don't even read what's being written.
You repeat the same line over and over again.
Bush expanded federal programs! Bush expanded
federal programs. Yeah. Right. Okay. We get the point.
I even said you might have a valid complaint - but
when it comes down to the voting, you still have
only two options. One of them is Bush and one of them is the Democrat.

Bush may let us down on a lot of issues, but in letting
a Democrat win, you give up _every_ issue.

I'm not telling you to excuse Bush. But I fail to see
how ensuring a Democratic win will solve your problem.
It's more important to keep the country in the best
state possible than to teach one Republican candidate
a lesson.

If I'm wrong, show me how, but don't keep repeating
your little list of federal programs. I've seen it
already.
185 posted on 02/02/2004 10:10:04 AM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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To: Sockdologer; OWK
Look. No one's telling you to embrace everything the President's done. But use a little common sense.

JMO, but common sense to OWK is like water being thrown on the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz.

186 posted on 02/02/2004 10:10:49 AM PST by Dane
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To: robowombat
Mr. Adams,

You don't deserve to wear that name. Mr. Rosenberg would suit you more appropriately as you are willing to put America's future at great risk for the sake of your personal ideals.



187 posted on 02/02/2004 10:11:00 AM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: OWK
Hey, it's not the criticism I mind. It's the voting
I'm worried about.
188 posted on 02/02/2004 10:11:18 AM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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To: Dane
JMO?
189 posted on 02/02/2004 10:12:13 AM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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To: Sockdologer
You don't even read what's being written.

I read exactly what you wrote.

And I've read it 1000 times before.

Yeah... they're not conservative.. "but the dems"... "the dems"... the boogermen will eat out liver if we dare to criticize the king..

Bah...

190 posted on 02/02/2004 10:12:46 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
It grows tiresome.

Tiresome is the constant, DAILY postings of dispiriting negativity that are posted on FR to accomplish...

Well, we don't know what they are supposed to accomplish except some vague "Make Bush Accountable" idea. Everybody at FR knows how you Disgruntled ones feel now. Fine. But why post DAY after DAY, HOUR after HOUR the same negative stuff.

It's like wormtounge. It's like Terrell Owens. It's like the wife of the referee in the super bowl commercial.

Pure poison.

191 posted on 02/02/2004 10:13:09 AM PST by Warren_Piece (Wake up you Sheeple! The Steelers fan invaders are a bunch of Statists!)
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To: Sockdologer
JMO?

Just my opinion.

192 posted on 02/02/2004 10:13:42 AM PST by Dane
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To: gorush
Another name it warms my heart to see.

Best Regards.

193 posted on 02/02/2004 10:13:45 AM PST by OWK
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To: kevao
When hundreds of thousands of illegals per year can cross our borders with impunity, our sovereignty is at risk.

To the extent President Kerry would put us at risk? Those are our only two realistic choices... a man who has shown great personal character but not 100% conservative values, or a man who deliberately flies the American flag upside, admires socialism and bows reverently to the U.N.


194 posted on 02/02/2004 10:14:26 AM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: OWK
Alright. If you don't think the dems are worse,
tell me why. Tell me how. I'm waiting.
195 posted on 02/02/2004 10:14:30 AM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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To: OWK
The quantum leap to the left aside, the biggest threat to freedom I see is the Kremlin-style, toe the party line mentality that has emerged in our national politics. Don't question, don't think. Our leaders know better, our motives are pure, we know what's best for you. If you do not conform, we will punish you in a hundred different ways. Those who control by threat or intimidation are not leaders at all.
196 posted on 02/02/2004 10:15:01 AM PST by Ches ("old enough to remember when the air was clean and sex was dirty")
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To: Abe Froman
The vote for Perot didn't appear to be a clear vote for conservatism. He had populist appeal and represented some kind of vague dissatisfaction with politics and politicians, apparently. A vote for the Libertarian or Constitution candidate would be unmistakeable.

Good Lord! Why is it so hard to understand that the split vote elected Bill Clinton?

Split it again and maybe you will get Hillary. Or if not Hillary, maybe it will be Kerry who pretended to throw away his medals in an anti-war protest.

197 posted on 02/02/2004 10:16:28 AM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: Warren_Piece
Tiresome is the constant, DAILY postings of dispiriting negativity...

Awwww.... negativity.. (sniff sniff)

I am critical of socialism and leftism.

I criticize Bush for his socialism, and his leftism.

Want to hear less criticism of Bush?

Encourage him to behave like less of a leftist.

Pretty simple.

198 posted on 02/02/2004 10:16:31 AM PST by OWK
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To: Columbine
Exactly!
199 posted on 02/02/2004 10:16:56 AM PST by Sockdologer (Yeeeagh!)
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To: robowombat
"I’m Tired"

Maybe you should look at your attachment to being tired.

200 posted on 02/02/2004 10:16:58 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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