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A vanity from a former Hostage
self | October 22nd, 2004 | Svetlana Gubareva

Posted on 10/22/2004 10:23:46 PM PDT by svni

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To: familyop
The Russian government does not have free press or other free media. Censorship is occurring there, as it did during the Soviet years and during the reigns of the Czars before. Quite a few dissenting journalists have been murdered, and dissenting television companies have been shut down. A government capable of such behavior is also capable of staging other cruelties for propaganda purposes.

This post was from 2 years back, and it's easy to see all of what you wrote now.

Back when 'W' was looking into Putin's eyes and seeing a friend (as opposed to Laura Bush who saw Dracula), things were still not so clear.

Like Ms. Gubareva said: "Prostota - huzhe vorovstva" (Simplicity - is worse than stealing.)
101 posted on 10/07/2006 7:05:15 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: familyop
The Russian government does not have free press or other free media. Censorship is occurring there

The free press did exist at the time I posted the comment you referenced in 2004. It does now, but to a much lessor degree since Putin began his second term with moves to quash opposition to his policies.

But nothing in Putin's history seems to indicate that he would cause the deaths of many children in order to achieve a political gain. But he is acting as a dictator would.

What gain was achieved? Did he start a all out war with the Chechen's? Did he now pursue a slash and burn policy to eliminate them with new public support?

No, he did not, and has actually refused to join the U.S. and it's allies in the war on terror. If anything, he is ignoring the threat....

There are no dots to connect to the school bomb. There were none then, and there are none now. It remains a false conspiracy, but this does not excuse Putin's power grab. As I see it, he has seized almost total power in the past two years, and his reasons for doing so appear to be somewhat elusive.

Some believe it is to fight entrenched organized crime, and some believe it is his KGB upbringing that is showing and he wants total control, but nobody believes he staged the killings of those kids but conspiracy buffs who believe all sorts of things that are ridiculous.

102 posted on 10/08/2006 10:49:56 AM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the go pound sand:-))
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To: Cold Heat
From tomorrow's Novaya Gazeta:



On Saturday, October 7th,
Anna Politkovskaya,
correspondent of Novaya Gazeta
was killed in the stairwell of her home

        She was beautiful, and through the years became only more beautiful. Do you do know why? At first we merely receive our countenance from God, and then the rest we make of it ourselves in the way that we live.
       Still, they say that in maturity the soul begins to appear on face. Her soul was beautiful.
       She was feminine. She knew how to laugh and joke and cry from injustice. Any injustice, no matter with respect to whom, she took as her personal enemy, and she fought it with all her strength.
       She was amazingly courageous, much more courageous than those many macho types in their armored jeeps, surrounded by bodyguards.
       They threatened her, they tried to intimidate her, and arranged shadows and searches. She was arrested in Chechnya by "our own" airborne forces, and they threatened to shoot her. They poisoned her when she flew to Beslan. She clawed her way back to life, and, though afterwards she was never really as healthy as before, her conscience was all the stronger.
       Many people, even well-wishers of Novaya Gazeta, now and then said: "Well, your Politkovskaya - she's too much already..." Not too much! She always wrote the truth. It is another matter that this truth was frequently too terrible, that many people's consciences refused to accept it. And so, as a protective reaction, they said she was "too much already." Sometimes even our editorial staff.
       For the average person, probably, the most difficult thing is to turn away from a terrible fact. But, if we were to look evil directly in the eye, it cannot remain; it will pass. Anya looked evil directly in the eye, and, perhaps, she remained the conqueror in the worst situations. Perhaps she remained alive where her lowered eyes would have meant her death.
       For us she is still alive. We will be never accept the death of our Anya. Whoever undertook this brutal murder - in the center of Moscow, in broad daylight, we ourselves will search for the killers. We have a good idea where they can be located...
       In Europe, and in America, right now the question is being discussed: what is the state of the independent media in Russia? Novaya Gazeta in recent years has had three of its leading journalists murdered.
       Igor Domnikov. His killers - because of the efforts of honest detectives and this newspaper - were brought to court.
       Yuri Shchekochihin. Even the authorities in his homeland refused to look at the results of his autopsy... but we are continuing our investigation, and his killers will be punished.
       Now they have taken our Anya Politkovskaya... They killed not just a journalist, not just a human rights advocate, or a citizen, they killed a beautiful woman and mother.
       While there is still a Novaya Gazeta, her killers will not sleep quietly.
       Novaya Gazeta
You can express your condolences here:

103 posted on 10/08/2006 11:45:34 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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From the condolences weblog:
Aleksandr Usachev:
Who is behind this and the earlier murders?
Who wishes to stand with one foot in Europe, and with the other leg kick the objectionables in the rear and tries to keep his balance in the process?
Who is next?
Who will be the last?
God grant that the last victim of this undeclared war on the truth is Anna Politkovskaya...
Eternal is her memory, and condolences to her loved ones.

It seems to me that we are living in '1984' of George Orwell, or during the time of the inquisition. If they are killing journalists, it means they are afraid of their words, and seriously afraid. But why do why allow ourselves to be silent? To kill a lot of people is more difficult.
I kneel down before Anna Politkovskaya, such honest and fearless people are unfortunately very few.
Sergey, Krasnodar

They have extinguished yet another ray of light in this dark empire.

Thank you, for the truth! For freedom! For the example!
You are a hero!
Rest in peace.

Mihail Bogomolov:
Anna Stepanovna, forgive us! But we do not say 'farewell!' You remain with us, as one of the few people who didn't just look upon the government scum, but called them exactly what they deserved: scum.
Don't say with sorrow: 'They are gone!' But with gratitude: 'They were!'

SUCH news from Russia already doesn't suprise us, we all felt the sharp pain when we knew of Anna Politkovskaya's death. There are fewer and fewer people who aren't afraid to 'take to the streets', and Politkovskaya was the brightest light among them.

It's hard to be an honest person in a bandit land...

She gave us all strength...

My tears choke me, it's hard to write, such an honest person, so close to my heart.
These reptiles are killing the last people, hoping that a society of beasts remains. They hope to frighten everyone, to make us stop thinking. Let the earth be your pillow, Lord protect her bright spirit, Amen.

Today Russia has no conscience. They killed it.

We mourn with you!
Government of force, stupid government, without brains,
Do you think that dying in her flower of life
She leaves, that the country is all like a prison,
Not ruled by law, but by a pistol?
But a bullet is a weak argument,
Obviously the truth is simple, like two times two:
Though Anna Politkovskaya is no more,
Her Novaya Gazeta is alive!
A.N. Kapitonov

They feared her!!! The men revealed by authority and money! Fear this, you cowards, Anna from the skies will reveal all your meannesses, from there even more easily... But they did not count on one thing, yes, we were shaken by this murder, but we were not lost, we didn't scatter, we balled up our fists. If this brittle woman could resist this steam roller, this evil, then I can. Glory to you Anna, the fearless hero! You have it much better up there in heaven, than we do here in Russian, you have much more pleasant company. We remember everything, and this means that you live on, and evil will fall upon all the killers!
Glory to you, hero!

Good bye, my friend, good bye.
My dear one, you are inside my breast.
This predestined parting,
Promises a reunion ahead.
Good bye, my friend, without a handshake, without a word,
Do not get sad or furrow your brow,
Dying is nothing new in this life,
But living, of course, isn't novel either.
(S. Yesenin, ‹1925›)

Dear Anna,
Thank you, for loudly saying what many feared to think,
Thank you, for going ahead, when many lagged behind,
Thank you, for trying to save the innocent who were condemned,
Thank you, for treasuring human life so,
Thank you, for telling us the truth,
Thank you, for your life,
Thank you,
A bright memory of you.

Sincerest condolences, I am crying... as if one of my own had died. Maybe I can say that it is so. Anna was at 'Nord-Ost', there where my closest person in the world was, ... Her whole life she tried to help those who had it bad. I always trusted her. Eternal is her memory...

Bitter. Unmeasurable sadness. Shame for our nation, for all of us. Anna Politkovskaya was fearless. Her readers feared for her. It happened anyway. How THEY master us! How we allowed THEM to master us!
Thank you, Anna! All these years you showed us how we should live. Thank you, and forgive us.

99% corruption, 99% stupidity, 99% lies and meanness, and 1 % honest people. They are shooting and forcing out of the country the last of this percent. My condolences to all those close to Anna. And I'm very sorry for myself and my children.

Shame and fear for the country in which I was once born. Judging for everything, anything goes, and it's a frighteningly long time until the dawn. Hang in there, like Anna hung in there, and don't lose hope, we are with you. Let the earth be your pillow!"

(October 7th, 2006, in memory of Anna Politkovskaya)

Don't listen for her respiration, and don't summon the physicians -
Her soul already walks barefoot along the celestial lawn.
God takes away the good by the hands of bastards.
Idle neighbors stare out from their windows.
What is it to her, spending time in spite with praise and disparagement?
She is already away from this bloody suffering.
The quivering reflection of a candle is like a halo overhead.
And the next on the list places flowers on her coffin.
Viktor Kagan

104 posted on 10/09/2006 11:16:01 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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A few more comments from Anya's condolences weblog:
Anna annoyed the authorities, like a bone in their throat, and they killed her. They will stop at nothing! Power corrupts.

How awful it is to live in our country... This grief is impossible to put into words. We were so proud that there could be such journalists - courageous, fearless, brave. We are many more than they authorities think, and together we'll set things right.

Rustam Kersanov
Goodbye, Anna! You were a talanted journalist and a fearless person. I hope your courage helps to awaken the sleeping conscience of the average man and nourish the fighters.

I feel as I did once when I heard of Galich's death. And if the government was involved, you'll never know. A bright memory of her!

I hope that these curs answer in this life. Anna was an honest, brave person.

A terrible death. I'm very sad for this remarkable person. I'm very sad for all the people who have no rights whatsoever, including a right to life. The pomp of holidays and fireworks in their honor - that is all the authorities are interested in. They kill people and go unpunished, homes are falling apart from age and disrepair, people are buried alive while asleep. And there is no end to this, no limit. Forgive us, Anya!

Poor Russia! Really you need another 300 years to understand who is manipulating, scaring, and killing you. If you can mourn Anna today and then leave her in peace, then she wasn't needed by you in life. Today it's too late, however. Anna knew what she was doing and you should too. Condolences to both of you.

The murder of any journalist is terrible. It is a gag, by which they shut our mouth. I am sorry for Anna, such a talented and purposeful person. It is pitiful and terrible that deeds such as this are still possible...

105 posted on 10/10/2006 3:00:15 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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Soon to be published on

What will we allow them to do tomorrow?

"Women, men, adults and children! Today we are stuck in a life or death situation. We all have parents, relatives, or children. Their lives are on your consciences. We beg that you solve this problem peacefully, otherwise much blood will end up being spilled."
This was the appeal of the hostages from the "brilliant success" that carried away 130 lives, and left behind 60 orphans, hundreds permanently handicapped, and wrecked the lives of the thousands whose relatives and loved ones never returned from the theater. These monstrous statistics, however, do reflect the complete scale of the tragedy: the future is now predetermined by the "gas attack" at Dubrovka.

Dubrovka is Moscow's legal precedent, a license to use such gas chambers in the struggle against terrorism. Our "ostrich" politics and silent consent to the "anything goes" policies of the Russian authorities makes this legitimate. Moscow's strategy at Dubrovka, "do not ask at what price victory", shows that the community is a potential hostage of the Russian president's ambitions, and that civilians are nothing more than potential victims of future 'Nord-Ost' gas chambers.

Russian defense minister Sergey Ivanov was not speaking rhetorically when he promised to use "all effective weapons, other than nuclear" in the struggle against the terrorist threat. This gas attack in the center of Moscow in the 21st century is a kind of neutron bomb, which kills people while leaving buildings undamaged. For the first time in peacetime, a civilized, "democrat" government has used secret chemical substances against thousands of peaceful civilians.

The promotions and awards of the secret "heroes of 'Nord-Ost'," and the unaccountability of those who successfully risked the lives of strangers, will be a stimulus for future operations to poison, burn, and kill terrorists along with their hostages. We, who are all someone's children and someone's parents, cannot trust the destiny of ourselves and our loved ones to those who view our lives as nothing more than a tactical decision, a flip of the coin while calculating actions to their own selfish benefit.

The persistence of these executioners in evading responsibility, in avoiding the legal process, has laid bare not only the scale of the conspiracy, but the animal fear they have of punishment. It is a long-standing, tragic tradition in Russia to murder of those who will not bend to the will of the authorities. Now they have forever silenced Anna Politkovskaya. Anna's voice was the alarm bell of 'Nord-Ost', and she was intimately connected to the 'Nord-Ost' case, just as a mother and her newborn are connected by an umbilicus. Anna's courage was admired everywhere, even by the terrorists, but her irreconcilability infuriated the authorities and exposed their impotence. How awful must be the truth, how dangerous it must be for those who have something to hide, if they can only hide from it with the help of a bullet?

Why does the bell toll - what was Anya writing about?

She wrote that an evil ignored gives birth to an even greater evil, that a crime that goes unpunished is doomed to repeat itself.

She wrote that there are real people behind the tragedy at Dubrovka, and they have names, ranks, and titles, and these must be made known. She wrote that they have a duty to save and protect, not to murder. She wrote that only an independent investigation into the responsibility of the Russian leadership for 'Nord-Ost', and a trial of the murderers, could protect us from future crimes by today's authorities, as well as the crimes of tomorrow’s authorities at the next 'Nord-Ost' and Beslan.

For whom does the bell toll - for whom was Anya writing?

She wrote for those who were killed in this 21st century gas chamber, for the children who were shot and incinerated in the school, for the citizens who were tortured and tormented in Chechnya. She wrote for those whom we have to duty to remember. She wrote for the future of our children and grandchildren, so that the world they are born into would be worthy of them.

For whom did the bell toll on October 10th?

It tolled for Anna Politkovskaya, and the question: what will we allow them to do tomorrow? If we do not find an answer, than WE have allowed THEM to murder. On October 7th, we, the 'Nord-Ost' victims, were once again made orphans; once again we lost our OWN.

Do not ask for whom does the bell toll... listen to it...

Lubov Burban
106 posted on 10/16/2006 10:23:41 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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