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To: svni


I know you were invited here by Peter. I have great respect for him.

But please, I've NOT seen any report to support this statement:

>>>The world exhaled in relief on the morning of October 26th, 2002, when the Russian government officially stated that it was ALL OVER WITHOUT CASUALTIES, that all the hostages were saved.<<<

Do you have a link to show for this?

And for your comment about not shooting a terrorist that doesn't have an explosive belt...that is standard training procedure. That isn't indigenous to Russia. Any swat team/anti terror team would shoot on sight once an incident gets to a hostage situation.

I'm lost here. What is your point?

48 posted on 10/23/2004 9:42:42 PM PDT by Calpernia (
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To: Calpernia; All

I can't see the url, but will post the site that it came from in the next post.

this article from Canada refers to the lies that Russia told.

Is this the same gas that Reno and Clinton used on the Americans at Waco?

Hostages weren't priority, critics charge The Canadian Press (10/30/2002)

By Fred Weir / The Canadian Press

Moscow - Relief has turned to bewilderment and anger as Russians count the dead among hostages in the storming of a
Moscow theatre and the use of a secret incapacitating gas to thwart terrorists who had threatened to kill hundreds of captives.
"There are big questions about the priorities of our authorities in this situation," says Andrei Piontkovsky, director of the
independent Centre for Strategic Studies in Moscow.
Piontkovsky and other critics have suggested that saving ordinary citizens' lives were not at the top of the list of official
concerns in the weekend operation.
Despite efforts by President Vladimir Putin to reform the bureaucracy, critics say the government's reputation for callousness,
secrecy and fibbing to the public has resurfaced during the hostage crisis.
This group of substances can kill pain and dull the senses, but may also bring on coma and death by shutting down breathing and
"There is a well-known Russian habit of overdoing things," commented Lev Fyodorov, a former Soviet chemical weapons
scientist who now heads the independent Council for Chemical Security in Moscow.
"The doses they injected into the theatre were far too great. . . . They did not take into account that many people inside the
theatre were from risk groups, such as pregnant women, people with heart, kidney or liver problems, elderly people and so on."
Putin has publicly lamented the loss of life and asked for forgiveness that hostages died in the crisis, but relatives of some
victims had not received official information about their loved ones by Monday evening.
"It seems that in Russia, victory is always three-quarters disaster," commented Alexander Konovalov, an expert with the
Institute of Canada-USA Studies in Moscow.

53 posted on 10/24/2004 4:26:59 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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