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NYC Restaurant refuses to serve Bush twins.
Gawker.com ^ | 11.19.04 | Gawker.com

Posted on 11/19/2004 2:32:58 PM PST by conserv13

Edited on 11/22/2004 4:12:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

...Freemans tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins along with 2 massive secret service men tried to have dinner they were told by the maitre 'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years upon hearing the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots it was amazing!!! [Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.]...


Admin Note:

Received forwarded message from info@freemansrestaurant.com 11/22/2004

Regarding the Internet rumors, no member of Freeman's staff made any derogatory or discriminating comments towards Jenna or Barbara Bush. We are a non-partisan establishment and pride ourselves on having a diverse clientele. The Bush twins or any member of the first family are welcome to join us for dinner anytime.


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To: jpf
We could all call and reserve tables for Saturday night...and then not show up.

No,no,no, now here's what you do:

You go to a toy store or Spencer's Gifts in the mall or some place like that and you buy a plastic bug -- cockroaches work best, but any icky "bug" will do. It has to look (fairly) real.

Make a reservation at the restaurant. Show up, order a meal ...yup, yup, you're getting the idea... half way though slip the plastic bugs in/under some food on the plate (mashed potatoes work great for this).

Then wait a moment, leap up and cry: "Oh, my God!! There's a cockroach/bug in my food!!!"

Here you can add whatever dramatic touches you wish. But don't make it too long, or too obvious, and get out of there -- pronto!

The place will be in an uproar, and the restaurant's reputation will suddenly be....er...well you know.

101 posted on 11/19/2004 3:05:50 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: libertylass

You do understand that restaurants have caller ID, right? And that anything even remotely viewed as a threat is treated seriously...


102 posted on 11/19/2004 3:06:12 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: KarlInOhio
Nothing like coming back to the Midwest hunting lodge after a day in the field to have some boar pâté and stuffed prunes. Yummy and very Midwestern. (Have these people ever been west of the Hudson?)

Where's the venison, Elk, Moose, Wild Turkey, Trout, perch, and Salmon?

103 posted on 11/19/2004 3:06:15 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("...don't you fill me up with your rules, cause everybody knows that smoking ain't allowed in (bars))
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To: usaproud

dude..I'm sure the story is BS...it would be all over the news here. Do they even name the restaurant??


104 posted on 11/19/2004 3:06:19 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: jimbo123

Do you think they should be reported for RATS being spotted on the premises? he, he, he.


105 posted on 11/19/2004 3:07:03 PM PST by pieces of time (Pray for the safety and success of our troops.)
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To: finnman69
Below is a picture of the Maitre D and the losers who come to this restaurant.


106 posted on 11/19/2004 3:07:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: Beelzebubba
The "Massive" SS agents don't ring true.

Well, maybe they were, compared to the waiters and diners.

107 posted on 11/19/2004 3:07:54 PM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: yankeedame

NY City Human Rights Commission

http://nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailchr.html


NY State Human Rights Commission

http://www.nysdhr.com/complaints.html


NY City Health Department

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/rii/index.html


108 posted on 11/19/2004 3:08:45 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Repub4bush

I wish I were in New York just for one day to do what you suggest. It would be awesome!


109 posted on 11/19/2004 3:08:46 PM PST by valleygal
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To: Grampa Dave; Happy2BMe; devolve
What a bunch of scumbags these jerks are.

Yeah, best if Barbara and Jenna found a DECENT place alright.


110 posted on 11/19/2004 3:09:24 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: durasell

If I were famous, I just wouldn't eat in restaurants, period. You never know who has what out for you.


111 posted on 11/19/2004 3:09:47 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: MeekOneGOP
They'd always be welcome at my place...

OK, OK, I'm leaving...

112 posted on 11/19/2004 3:10:12 PM PST by Argh
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To: All

TO REPORT A SMOKING VIOLATION

http://nyc.gov/html/doh/html/smoke/smoke-complaint.html


113 posted on 11/19/2004 3:10:19 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: TexasGreg
Isn't this a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (Sec. 201(a) )

Probably not, because "First Daughters" aren't a protected class. I'll defend the Freeman's right of association, while also noting that they are total jackasses.

114 posted on 11/19/2004 3:10:23 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Trout was the entree after the appetizer part of the review, but I just wanted to ridicule New Yorkers with their "Midwestern" boar pâté and stuffed prunes. They didn't have the fresh Dodge killed deer on the menu like any real Midwestern restaurant would have :-).


115 posted on 11/19/2004 3:10:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: conserv13

This is true? All New York Republicans should know about this and never go to this particular place again. Democrats are so mean. They are just plain mean.


116 posted on 11/19/2004 3:11:28 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Argh
hahahahaha!

How thoughtful. :^D


117 posted on 11/19/2004 3:12:17 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: libertylass

I called as well...I think the story is BS but what the heck...some brain dead dingbat chick answered the phone...I asked here "I understand you are booked the next for years?" She replied, "excuse me"? And I repeated my statement...she said "I can't comment" which is an indictment of itself..(so I may be wrong about the story being BS).

I said.."You know, we could probably have you shut down in about four minutes"....


118 posted on 11/19/2004 3:12:48 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

I try.


119 posted on 11/19/2004 3:12:57 PM PST by Argh
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To: durasell

I don't believe the term "you'll hear from us" is an actual threat so much as a promise to file a complaint. Not in my book anyway.


120 posted on 11/19/2004 3:13:12 PM PST by libertylass
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To: jpf

Paging, "Adolph Oliver Nipples".


122 posted on 11/19/2004 3:13:57 PM PST by wewon (I puked when I heard W speak about Clinton)
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To: ThinkDifferent

I suppose you could be right, however the comment that they are busy for the next four years constitutes discrimination based on political affiliation. Plain and simple.


123 posted on 11/19/2004 3:14:49 PM PST by libertylass
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If this is true, let's get Drudge to put it on his page. Then EVERYONE will know. That's the best we can do. So how are we going to verify this?


124 posted on 11/19/2004 3:14:50 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: PhiKapMom

This is what Chowhounds has to say about them.

http://www.chowhound.com/boards/manhat/messages/155152.html


125 posted on 11/19/2004 3:15:26 PM PST by cheesehead
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To: PhiKapMom
Now I am even more proud of The University of Oklahoma and University of Nebraska fans that booed Tom Brokaw last Saturday night when it was announced he was at the game! It truly was priceless!

I missed that. Not surprising though, since Oklahoma and Nebraska were two of the three states where every county was "red". Go Big Red, take your pick. :) ) They were also #2 and #3 in the percent of the statewide vote for Bush. Utah was #1, the Utes really, really didn't like Kerry for some odd reason.. :)

126 posted on 11/19/2004 3:15:29 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Hildy

If Drudge puts it on his page then the restaurant will be booked for the next four years. New Yorkers love to combine pate with a political statement.


127 posted on 11/19/2004 3:16:22 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: jimbo123

"You can send a complaint to the NY City Commission on Human Rights for discrimination:

http://nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailchr.html"

I am pretty sure that wouldn't count as discrimination (just rudeness). Are Freepers trying to expand the definition here? Private business can refuse service to anybody if not on the basis of race, sex or often age.


128 posted on 11/19/2004 3:16:39 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: finnman69
Worn plank floors and painted cement walls fit with moose, elk and other assorted taxidermy

May the moose bite their sisters.

129 posted on 11/19/2004 3:16:40 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: jimbo123

My table for six tonight for Dr. & Mrs. Fred Fogel and friends will be hard to serve, since I'm still 660 miles away.


130 posted on 11/19/2004 3:17:10 PM PST by anton
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To: libertylass

http://www.nypost.com/living/32331.htm

As it turns out, Freeman's popularity is a mystery carefully cultivated by enigmatic owner Taavo Somer.

A trained architect, designer of the famed "My Boyfriend Is Out of Town" T-shirt, and a prankster who, legend has it, once laced toilet paper all over NoLIta, Somer is best known around downtown New York for knowing what people want — well before they do.

"Taavo is a pretty influential person in the downtown scene," said friend and fan Eleanor Lembo, a partner in Earnest Sewn jeans who shares office space with Somer.

Yet for all his connections and trend-spotting abilities, there are no pictures of Somer to be found anywhere online; he would not be interviewed by The Post, nor would he agree to photographs inside his restaurant.


131 posted on 11/19/2004 3:18:24 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Hildy
Are you kidding? Then their business will go out of the roof!! Free advertising thanks to us.

No, you have to complain to the better business bureau, and the agencies mention in a previous post. You have to do the "stuff" mentioned right above about finding roaches. Only I would actually find a real dead roach and shove it in my food. Seriously......

If you call....ask for WILLIAM!! Don't talk to the ditzy chicky. William needs to know that this won't be tolerated and that we intend to complain without offering the restaurant ANY free advertising for the lib's in NYC.

132 posted on 11/19/2004 3:18:39 PM PST by libertylass
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To: yankeedame

Plastic bugs won't work, only the the real kind (dead, though) will do. :)

This reminds me of "Mouse Hunt". Remember when the restauranteur brother (Nathan Lane)lost all his business when the mayor died after eating half a huge cockroach?


133 posted on 11/19/2004 3:18:56 PM PST by valleygal
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To: llevrok

Here's my "application":

Hey, great job dissing those snotty Bush Twins! How dare those Jesus Freaks ask for a table at your sophisticated, posh eatery! The nerve of those idiot children of an absolute idiot. I mean, what if Osama heard that you gave them some room at the inn. Like, he and his pals might plant a bomb in the Ladies room. That would be so uncool. Well, at least he and Al Qaeda know where you stand. Yours is the safest hot spot in NYC at this time, beleive me, er, Osama.

Hey, I hate Bush and believe that ALL Republicans are evil as well as complete dumb a$$es. They are a scourge on the earth and should be mocked and then thrown into liberal re-education camps! How any of them received a college degree is beyond me. Why any of them would deign to partake of your exclusive viands and hip ambiance is beyond understanding.

Gimme a job and I'll gladly show the world just how totally tolerant, peace-loving and inclusive we liberals really are.

Signed,

Mindy Moore-On


134 posted on 11/19/2004 3:19:02 PM PST by demnomo
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To: durasell
I'd be proud to get the bum's rush from Freeman's.....

Scuze-me my while I whip this out....sometimes it's impotent foe me ta review my x-list of eaterees....let's see...hmmmm....whilst I review my high-class rib-shack do-not-eat list:

1) Billy Ray's coon&possum soup n' stuff

2) Mid-Town Chickenfeets & Grits

3) Freemman's NYC... (Freeman's a bit on the po side.....)

135 posted on 11/19/2004 3:19:37 PM PST by cbkaty
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To: TexasGreg
"Isn't this a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (Sec. 201(a) ), which outlawed discrimination in public accommodations?"

A lot of cities - Seattle included - have broadened the list of protected categories to include things like creed, political affiliation, and sexual orientation. If an incident like this happened in Seattle, it would be illegal.
136 posted on 11/19/2004 3:20:09 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: El Gato

And Utah is a beautiful place. From Zion in the south to some of the greatest skiing in the world up north. I would love to have a cabin there. Lots of lakes with great fishing and mts for hunting deer.


137 posted on 11/19/2004 3:20:22 PM PST by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: conserv13
Interesting. Notice the post by someone called IndianaJones:

You bunch of ungrateful commie POS in NYC: Don't expect anyone from MY police department in Texas to come to NYC and help out [on our own time and expense] next time you get attacked. You'll be on your own after this story.

You made your bed of hate, now you can lay in it.

Posted by: IndianaJOnes at November 19, 2004 06:18 PM

138 posted on 11/19/2004 3:21:48 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Tenacious0

Dear Tenacious0,

I am merely stating that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 does not protect folks against discrimination based on political preferences. Period.

That being said, if Ms. Goldberg walked into a restaurant and was refused service based on her politics, she could not sue for discrimination based on political discrimination.

However, if she were to demonstrate that screening people on the basis of their political affiliation had a significant adverse effect on a "protected class" (such as black people), then she could sue for racial discrimination, basing her claim on the theory of "disparate impact."

In the employment law field, generally speaking, there is a prima facie case made for discrimination if the "four-fifths" rule is violated. That is, if the effect of the screen has the effect of causing members of the "protected group" to have less than 80% of the representation they otherwise might have if represented proportionately to the population from which the employer usually draws. Then the burden of proof falls to the defendant to prove he has not discriminated.

Thus, it is likely that Ms. Goldberg would at least have a case, since the overwhelming majority of black people vote Democrat, and if the screen were to be applied across-the-board, if would disproportionately affect black people very severely.

However, the Bush twins likely could not make a claim, as discriminating against Republicans will not generally disproportionately harm members of any "protected class."

Even if one makes a claim based on discrimination against white people, the fact is that a large minority of white folks are Democrats, and thus, it would be difficult that if the screen were universally applied that it would have a disproportionate adverse impact on white people.


Hope that makes it clearer.


sitetest


139 posted on 11/19/2004 3:22:19 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: jpf
We could all call and reserve tables for Saturday night...and then not show up.

I just applied for the Job of Maitre 'd, so if I get it, you guys will all get sweeeet seats!

140 posted on 11/19/2004 3:22:24 PM PST by RedQuill
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To: jigsaw

Leave a review here...

http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/41451747


141 posted on 11/19/2004 3:22:47 PM PST by Talon56
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To: struwwelpeter

From their menu -

"blue cheese-stuffed prunes wrapped with bacon"

The toilet in this place must get lots of action given the menu.


142 posted on 11/19/2004 3:22:52 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: cbkaty

Look, it's just another one of those downtown hipster places that'll be gone soon enough. If you are in NYC and want something on that order, then try Chumley's. A bit hard to find, but just as good.


143 posted on 11/19/2004 3:23:04 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: conserv13

They are free to do that. If I had a pharmacy, I would not sell Clinton heart medication. If I had a JiffyLube, I would refuse to service Hillary's broom.


144 posted on 11/19/2004 3:23:17 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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To: Hand em their arse
Hey Chick,

Ya up for a "water date"?? LOL!

Oh, absolutely! I'm sick and tired of businesses foisting their politics on me. Just last week, I walked away from the Nars Cosmetics counter when the saleswoman started bitching about how angry and depressed she's been since the Election. Even when it was clear that I didn't wish to discuss politics with her, she persisted -- until I interrupted and told her that I was most definitely NOT unhappy with that.

145 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:03 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.HillaryWatch.org)
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To: conserv13

Hmmm... So what?


146 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:22 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: conserv13
girliemansoreloser
147 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:26 PM PST by timestax
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To: OneTimeLurker
"Private business can refuse service to anybody if not on the basis of race, sex or often age."

A lot of liberal cities have expanded the list of protected categories, and political affiliation is often one of them; I know it is in Seattle, and it might be in NYC.
148 posted on 11/19/2004 3:24:42 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

NY City also has a liberal interpretation of protected classes for discrimination, including political affiliation.


149 posted on 11/19/2004 3:25:38 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Indie

Can you give me a link to where you read that? All I could find on their site was job info.


150 posted on 11/19/2004 3:25:38 PM PST by valleygal
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