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NYC Restaurant refuses to serve Bush twins.
Gawker.com ^ | 11.19.04 | Gawker.com

Posted on 11/19/2004 2:32:58 PM PST by conserv13

Edited on 11/22/2004 4:12:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

...Freemans tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins along with 2 massive secret service men tried to have dinner they were told by the maitre 'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years upon hearing the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots it was amazing!!! [Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.]...


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Received forwarded message from info@freemansrestaurant.com 11/22/2004

Regarding the Internet rumors, no member of Freeman's staff made any derogatory or discriminating comments towards Jenna or Barbara Bush. We are a non-partisan establishment and pride ourselves on having a diverse clientele. The Bush twins or any member of the first family are welcome to join us for dinner anytime.


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KEYWORDS: bogustale; bushtwins; bushwa; fabrication; freemans; lyingdemlosers; rudenyers; totallybogus; urbanlegend
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To: phxaz

this lib board has been getting a lot of heat from Freepers: http://www.thomasjlang.com/archives/000348.html


341 posted on 11/19/2004 8:46:02 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: phxaz

if this was making liberals angry, this restrant fax would be recieving a plain sheet of black paper.

-DNS on their website.

-health department complaints (bribes can get expensive)

-networks doing health/cleanliness tabloid type stories.

-ACLU jumping to the rescue.


and not one liberal would give the restraunt business or money.


342 posted on 11/19/2004 8:57:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: sitetest
I expect that the management of a restaurant may also discriminate based on politics, all things being equal.

But democrats tell us that Republicans are all dangerous evangelical Christian fanatics. At least that's what I keep hearing from the left. This "fact" alone brings the restaurant's actions under scrutiny of the Civil Rights Act.

Oh, wait, I forgot that conservatives can't be discriminated against. Just ask the ACLU.

343 posted on 11/19/2004 9:03:15 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Prime Choice

Another example of classy behavior by residents of the City of Ingrates.


344 posted on 11/19/2004 9:23:44 PM PST by Bushbacker (ttlGe)
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To: conserv13

Its Time for for some Freeper Blues Brothers to Dine.


345 posted on 11/19/2004 9:26:09 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: vrwcagent0498
What p***es me off is how much support we gave NYC after the 9/11/01 attacks. (we meaning, the Bushes and Red Staters)

Won't get fooled again...


WRONG! We don't give to get!! We give by compassion, and that was needed at 9/11!!!
346 posted on 11/19/2004 9:26:22 PM PST by danamco
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To: Repub4bush
"I think all of us Freepers in the area should make reservations on a given date. Everyone arrive about 15-30 minutes apart. The last couple arriving make a loud scene. Like: "Honey isn't this where the Bush twins were turned away recently?" At which point all Freeper diners get up and leave."

Great idea....also have the next wave waiting in line outside the restaurant for the next sitting ....to be repeated!

347 posted on 11/19/2004 9:37:02 PM PST by TheLion
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To: yankeedame

Hey, just let loose a bag of bugs and watch the patrons scream....lol


348 posted on 11/19/2004 9:39:54 PM PST by TheLion
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To: danamco

Yawn.

Like France? Maybe asking for a little bit of respect (in this case, President's family) is too much to ask for...


349 posted on 11/19/2004 10:14:07 PM PST by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: sitetest
The 1964 Civil Rights Act banned discrimination based on membership in five protected classes: race, religion, color, ethnic origin, and sex.

At least as it applies to employment law, there is no bar to discrimination based on politics.


As I speculated, it could be interpreted as discrimination based upon religion since they believe we're all religious idiots.
350 posted on 11/19/2004 10:22:01 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It's a privately owned restuarant, and they are refusing to served individuals for political reasons. They have that right, just as we have the right to encourage everyone we know not to eat there. If they wanna be dicks, let 'em. It's just one more example of liberal tolerance and acceptance of diversity, anyhow...

Just as it is illegal for a privately owned restuarant to discrimination against African Americans who wish to eat there, so also it is against the law for a privately owned restuarant to discriminate based upon the religion of patrons. Given the way in which the Dems have painted all conservatives as religious idiots, one could make an argument on the religious grounds.

In this case, however, it was based tightly upon who these girls were. The action of the management, and the patrons there, was the height of incivility; they reflect their counterparts at DUmmy land.
351 posted on 11/19/2004 10:30:09 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: Indie

Thank you for posting that link, Indie.


352 posted on 11/19/2004 10:30:46 PM PST by valleygal
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To: OldFriend

YES! Remember that?? We are NOT acting on stage for Republicans! WAAAH! Why isn`t anyone coming to our play?? It`s all the Republicans fault! WAAAAAH! Have you ever seen the movie Team America? People think it makes fun of the war on terror, but it really doesn`t. It makes the fighters against terror out to be heros. What is does instead is bash the living hell out of Broadway liberals, Hollywood liberals and the French. The first 20 minutes of that movie I was laughing so hard I could hardly see the screen, especially the one part of "Gary Johnson; Broadway actor". Any movie that ticks off Sean Penn is the greatest movie ever made in my book, and I`m sure it was no coincidence it was released right before the election.


353 posted on 11/19/2004 10:30:53 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: phxaz

You called all the way from PHX? :)


354 posted on 11/19/2004 10:32:42 PM PST by valleygal
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To: ThinkDifferent
Probably not, because "First Daughters" aren't a protected class.

Sure they are ... on religious grounds (i.e., "Evangelical Christian). But ...then ... the twins are not, exactly, "in good standing" with that religious expression ... so ... oh well. I wouldn't want to eat there, anyway, but I do wonder what would happen if i were to show up dressed in clerics and, after being seated (assuming I was seated) I did or said something to indicate that I had voted for Bush. (hehe)
355 posted on 11/19/2004 10:36:31 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: sitetest
However, the Bush twins likely could not make a claim, as discriminating against Republicans will not generally disproportionately harm members of any "protected class."

How about "Evangelical Christian"? :) Granted, we've not in the past thought of them as "protected," yet discrimination based upon religion IS in the list.
356 posted on 11/19/2004 10:41:04 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: TexasGreg

From what I've now read it looks like this story is an urban legend, not true ... that's good news.


357 posted on 11/19/2004 10:53:25 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: TC Rider

And some disreputable types could smuggle in bugs and other vermin.

Or at least freep the reviews online


358 posted on 11/19/2004 11:04:12 PM PST by Selkie
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To: jimbo123

The information on freemans whois record is fake - if not corrected the registrar must delete the name .

Registrar Obligation to Investigate and Correct Reported Inaccuracies

Subsection 3.7.8 of the RAA obliges registrars to "take reasonable steps to investigate" any inaccuracy in Whois data upon notification from "any person." The Whois Data Problem Report system was established in part in order to establish a clearly designated channel for registrars to receive complaints about inaccurate Whois data.

Hostway Whois Server Version 1.0
Domain Name: freemansrestaurant.com
Registrar: AAAQ.COM
Whois Server: whois.aaaq.com
Referral URL: http://www.aaaq.com
Name Server: a.dns.hostway.net
Name Server: b.dns.hostway.net
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date 2004-01-12
Creation Date: 2004-01-10
Expiration Date: 2004-01-10



Registrant:
Freemans Holding, LLC
John Freeman fokker@umich.edu
2 Freeman Alley

New York, NY 10003
US
212-965-5555 Fax:



Administrative Contact:
John Freeman fokker@umich.edu
2 Freeman Alley

New York, NY 10003
US
212-965-5555 Fax:


359 posted on 11/19/2004 11:21:30 PM PST by Selkie
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To: carlo3b
I just got off the phone with their manager.. "I've heard the rumor, and it is total BS. It's someones pipe-dream Carlo, I swear it never happened".

The DUmmies are going to be very disappointed to read this, Carlo. Ninety-nine percent of them are very happy believing this happened to the kids, and they're celebrating by using profane epithets to describe the twins.

The party of "tolerance and diversity" demonstrates the true condition of its heart once again.

360 posted on 11/19/2004 11:27:18 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Not now. I'm working the room.)
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