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To: Thatcherite
If you guys can believe a blind stupid "force" allowed US to come about with our several trillion cells working in complete sychronicity, producing millions of proteins, duplicating themselves with an error rate of 1 gene error in 10 million copies. That "evolution developed the human brain, the five senses.

That evolution dictated we loose our fur (to what evolutionary advantage?). And that we became upright with the loss of land speed due to the loss of two legs for locomotion. That all the specifics of every organ is contained within the genetic code in each and every cell...except the sex cells which only have half the genes of the individual. And that all the specific cells for every organ KNOW where to go to form the human body while still in the womb. That the human brain has more connections than all the telephone systems in the world put together, and those connections pre-wired in the genetic code.

Well I guess I can EASILY believe the pre-flood earth existed in different physical circumstances than today, including an atmosphere that contained no dust or salt crystals so that moisture could precipitate as rain...never before seen until some change in the atmosphere, including the possible introduction of inter-stellar masses of water, earthquakes (look what one did under the Indian Ocean!) Water is still not drained from the land that was flooded!

Also the Bible does not indicate if the flood was local or global, arguments are made for both viewpoints. The best arguments are for a flood, ONLY where man existed, since it was his sin that was being judged.

Now you guys postulate a mechanism for all of speciation that nobody has ever observed, the fossil evidence is in direct contradiction to this theory...and yet you still believe in THIS theory, contrary to all the evidence, modern science, information theory, irreducible complexity, and just plain common sense that no natural processes can produce something as incredible as consciousness, or self-awareness. A quality that is obviously transcendental to sheer matter.

And you base this belief, starting from a mediocre scientist from the 19th century who knew hardly anything about cells, nothing about DNA, who's own words about the fossil record have been falsified, and who believed in Lamarckian inheritance. Hardly a credible source to invest so much time and effort to prop up this rickety and moth-eaten theory. It's days are numbered, so is the hiding place for your unbelief. Agnostics and atheists will have to find a new way to throw rocks at God. Meanwhile many of us will give honor to God for the wonders of HIS creation. And we will marvel at the stupidity that unbelief can generate.
1,015 posted on 01/03/2005 9:25:30 AM PST by Jehu
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To: Jehu
Welcome Back! Did you have a good holiday?

I'm too busy right now to reply to such a long post but I'll get back if no-one else does.

1,016 posted on 01/03/2005 11:23:48 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Jehu

"That evolution dictated we loose our fur (to what evolutionary advantage?"

So we could wear Calvin Klein jeans without hurting ourselves.


1,018 posted on 01/03/2005 6:28:45 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Jehu

"Now you guys postulate a mechanism for all of speciation that nobody has ever observed"

I think we have seen DNA now on an electron microscope.


1,020 posted on 01/03/2005 6:32:34 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Jehu

"And you base this belief, starting from a mediocre scientist from the 19th century who knew hardly anything about cells, nothing about DNA, who's own words about the fossil record have been falsified, and who believed in Lamarckian inheritance. Hardly a credible source to invest so much time and effort to prop up this rickety and moth-eaten theory. It's days are numbered, so is the hiding place for your unbelief. Agnostics and atheists will have to find a new way to throw rocks at God. Meanwhile many of us will give honor to God for the wonders of HIS creation. And we will marvel at the stupidity that unbelief can generate."

Darwin was a Genius. He stopped believing Lamarck after he figured out how it really worked, but he didn't come real close to understanding genetics.

No one is throwing rocks at God. I believe in God and understand evolution is a fact. We might be throwing rocks at your conception of God.

God made man in His image and man returned the favor.


1,021 posted on 01/03/2005 6:37:01 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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